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Transfer Muppet Fantasy
- Thread starter Polaroid
- Start date
This will be my last post in some time. So instructions for my last purchases and to my successor:
Firstly, if NoPace does not outbid me on Maicon, obviously no changes required.
Otherwise, bid for Boateng/Rafinha/Caceres/Lichtsteiner/Van der wiel/Eboue (the footballer)/Bonera.
+ get Kroos/Carrick/Fabregas/Hazard/Pedro/Nani with remaining 15m.
All decisions to be made by @antohan or new manager
Formation and Roles:
(A) 4-2-2-1
--------------------Zlatan---------------------
--Cavani----------------------------Valenica--
--------------Zidane---Ballack----------------
-----------------Cambiasso--------------------
--Baines-----Vidic---Hummels-------RB------
------------------Casillas----------------------
Roles in general:
- use Zlatan as a false 9.
- Zidane is positioned more advanced than shown above, as an AM/CM hybrid----- advanced playmaker.
- Ballack is also positioned as an AM/CM hybrid, but deeper than Zidane, ----- B2B
- Cambiasso is also positioned bit more advanced than above, as a DM/CM hybrid ----- the ball winner
- Depending on the opponents right back/right centre back combo - Cavani's incursions into the penalty area will be decided
- Valencia stays out wide and (I) put innumerable crosses into the penalty area ( he went past his marker almost every time in 10/11, and eventually flattened Rooney's head with his accurate crosses) (ii) helps out his RB in case there's a Ronaldo/Figo/Ribery/Bale on the opponent's left.----- winger
- Baines is a full back if there's a pacey superstar down his flank, else he'll take the risk and bomb forward to put in his share of pin-point crosses, thereby allowing Cavani to drift in more often
- Vidic is the warrior defender, Hummels the ball-playing defender next to him.
- St.Iker is the captain
Tactics:
A Very Important Note to my successor:
A few other tips:
Alternative formation/tactics
Whoever takes over, I'm sorry about mismanaging the funds. That's one thing I didn't get right at all. Adriano was a big mistake, and I did not wait till the end to make better buys. Improve on your RB/LB first thing if/when you get through. Unless you get a superstar, let Valencia stay in your lineup till the end - he's really good value for money.
A Confession:
It's been lots of fun, and I got to know a lot of poster and players because of this draft. I hope I can last the whole thing next time. Good luck to whoever's up against Edgar, VJ and paceme.
Thanks a lot @Polaroid @Annahnomoss @crappycraperson - I really enjoyed this.
Firstly, if NoPace does not outbid me on Maicon, obviously no changes required.
Otherwise, bid for Boateng/Rafinha/Caceres/Lichtsteiner/Van der wiel/Eboue (the footballer)/Bonera.
+ get Kroos/Carrick/Fabregas/Hazard/Pedro/Nani with remaining 15m.
All decisions to be made by @antohan or new manager
Formation and Roles:
(A) 4-2-2-1
--------------------Zlatan---------------------
--Cavani----------------------------Valenica--
--------------Zidane---Ballack----------------
-----------------Cambiasso--------------------
--Baines-----Vidic---Hummels-------RB------
------------------Casillas----------------------
Roles in general:
- use Zlatan as a false 9.
- Zidane is positioned more advanced than shown above, as an AM/CM hybrid----- advanced playmaker.
- Ballack is also positioned as an AM/CM hybrid, but deeper than Zidane, ----- B2B
- Cambiasso is also positioned bit more advanced than above, as a DM/CM hybrid ----- the ball winner
- Depending on the opponents right back/right centre back combo - Cavani's incursions into the penalty area will be decided
- Valencia stays out wide and (I) put innumerable crosses into the penalty area ( he went past his marker almost every time in 10/11, and eventually flattened Rooney's head with his accurate crosses) (ii) helps out his RB in case there's a Ronaldo/Figo/Ribery/Bale on the opponent's left.----- winger
- Baines is a full back if there's a pacey superstar down his flank, else he'll take the risk and bomb forward to put in his share of pin-point crosses, thereby allowing Cavani to drift in more often
- Vidic is the warrior defender, Hummels the ball-playing defender next to him.
- St.Iker is the captain
Tactics:
The details - pass options, pressing, back line position, player roles and movement directions in specific situations, are upto the new manager. Basic outline is -
Four phases:
(1) With the ball - building up attacks
--Cavani--------Zlatan-------Valencia----
-----------Zidane-----Ballack--------------
--Baines-------Cambiasso-------RB-------
-----------Vidic-------Hummels-----------
-----------------Casillas--------------------
(2) Just Dispossessed - Reacting to Counters
---------------------Zlatan----------------------
---------------------Zidane---------------------
---Cavani--Cambiasso--Ballack--Valencia---
----Baines-----Vidic----Hummels-----RB-----
--------------------Casillas----------------------
(3) Without the ball - Defending:
----------------------Zlatan----------------------
Cavani-Cambiasso-Zidane-Ballack-Valencia
----Baines----Vidic-----Hummels---RB-------
-------------------Casillas------------------------
(4) Just Won the Ball: Counter Attacking
----Cavani------------------------------------------
------------Zidane--Zlatan--Ballack---Valencia--
-------------------Cambiasso-----------------RB----
----Baines-----Vidic------Hummels----------------
---------------------Casillas--------------------------
Four phases:
(1) With the ball - building up attacks
--Cavani--------Zlatan-------Valencia----
-----------Zidane-----Ballack--------------
--Baines-------Cambiasso-------RB-------
-----------Vidic-------Hummels-----------
-----------------Casillas--------------------
(2) Just Dispossessed - Reacting to Counters
---------------------Zlatan----------------------
---------------------Zidane---------------------
---Cavani--Cambiasso--Ballack--Valencia---
----Baines-----Vidic----Hummels-----RB-----
--------------------Casillas----------------------
(3) Without the ball - Defending:
----------------------Zlatan----------------------
Cavani-Cambiasso-Zidane-Ballack-Valencia
----Baines----Vidic-----Hummels---RB-------
-------------------Casillas------------------------
(4) Just Won the Ball: Counter Attacking
----Cavani------------------------------------------
------------Zidane--Zlatan--Ballack---Valencia--
-------------------Cambiasso-----------------RB----
----Baines-----Vidic------Hummels----------------
---------------------Casillas--------------------------
A Very Important Note to my successor:
Capitalize on set-pieces!!!!!
Value of goal scored from an Andy Caroll header = Value of goal scored from brilliant open play by Messi = 1. Why don't people get this?
Zlatan, Zidane, Ballack are all dangerous from attacking set pieces, Baines for corners.
Zlatan, Zidane, Ballack, Cambiasso, Cavani, Vidic, Hummels can all head it in.
It follows that we won't let in goals from set-pieces, especially with Casillas in goal.
Targets:
- Polaroid (defence overall not dominant in the air)
- NoPace (only sub-par keepers left, so he'll end up with a Tier 3 keeper)
- Balu (same as Pol)
- Crappy (same as Pol + weak keeper)
- paceme (same as Pol)
- kps (same as Pol)
- Annah
Value of goal scored from an Andy Caroll header = Value of goal scored from brilliant open play by Messi = 1. Why don't people get this?
Zlatan, Zidane, Ballack are all dangerous from attacking set pieces, Baines for corners.
Zlatan, Zidane, Ballack, Cambiasso, Cavani, Vidic, Hummels can all head it in.
It follows that we won't let in goals from set-pieces, especially with Casillas in goal.
Targets:
- Polaroid (defence overall not dominant in the air)
- NoPace (only sub-par keepers left, so he'll end up with a Tier 3 keeper)
- Balu (same as Pol)
- Crappy (same as Pol + weak keeper)
- paceme (same as Pol)
- kps (same as Pol)
- Annah
A few other tips:
(1) Use the mental strength in that team.
If you don't know what I mean, ask an Arsenal fan to elaborate.
Zlatan, Ballack, Zidane, Vidic, Casillas - they're all captain material who've won tough games through sheer mental strength. So you might be up against skilled footballers, but they're screwed if they're mentally not as strong as you are. Many miss this.
Targets:
- Annah
- VJ (barring Seedorf, Giggs)
- Pippa
- cutch (his entire attack)
- paceme
(2) Use the physical strength in that lineup.
There's a reason it's tough to beat Stoke away on a wet windy night
Barring Leighton Baines, everyone else in that lineup is really strong - Zlatan,Cambiasso, Cavani, Valencia, Vidic, Ballack, Hummels - everyone. It's a huge advantage. So outmuscle the opponents whenever possible.
Targets:
-Trippy's team - (Keane/Yaya are 'strong' men, but their pairing doesn't work anyway)
- Annah
- Fergus (target Zanetti,Alba, DiMaria)
- Cutch maybe, I dunno who his wingers are
- paceme (barring Ivanovic and Scweini, anyone)
- Pol
(3) Don't let any of these players get underrated, especially Cambiasso
Zlatan has plenty of YouTube videos and stats to state his dominance. After Ronaldo, Messi - he's the best in the world. Him for 15m is the biggest bargain of this auction, no doubt. Prove it to the voters.
Cavani can play as as well on the left as he can on the right - he's done it many times before. YouTube and stats should help you out.
Ballack's problem, as has been said before, is that he entered Chelsea on the wane. Yet he was an integral part f their side. Pick up his stats and records from before to emphasize his ability to dominate the midfield. Use YouTube videos of his erformances for the national team, the number of goals he scores in crunch situations, etc. Some will say he's a cnut. Agree with them. Keane was a cnut to most opposition fans, too. Doesn't mean he's any less of a footballer. He's your badass guy in CM. Like Keane, he won't let the opposition settle into midfield - by hook or crook. Make sure you use him as the AM/CM hybrid - that's his best position.
Cambiasso has a more important role than Ballack in my team. At 30m, he's a steal. He's a genius, simply put. He can tackle, run with the ball, head it in, short pass it, and positions himself brilliantly. There are limited things he can do - but he's world class at what he does. Emphasize that. Use articles, select. Videos, match examples - convince the voters of his greatness. He's no Schweini, but he's just below.
Use the 10/11 season to showcase Valencia's 'best' and focus heavily on his strength, pace and defensive contribution - people have forgotten how good he once was in the wake of his post-injury performances.
If you don't know what I mean, ask an Arsenal fan to elaborate.
Zlatan, Ballack, Zidane, Vidic, Casillas - they're all captain material who've won tough games through sheer mental strength. So you might be up against skilled footballers, but they're screwed if they're mentally not as strong as you are. Many miss this.
Targets:
- Annah
- VJ (barring Seedorf, Giggs)
- Pippa
- cutch (his entire attack)
- paceme
(2) Use the physical strength in that lineup.
There's a reason it's tough to beat Stoke away on a wet windy night
Barring Leighton Baines, everyone else in that lineup is really strong - Zlatan,Cambiasso, Cavani, Valencia, Vidic, Ballack, Hummels - everyone. It's a huge advantage. So outmuscle the opponents whenever possible.
Targets:
-Trippy's team - (Keane/Yaya are 'strong' men, but their pairing doesn't work anyway)
- Annah
- Fergus (target Zanetti,Alba, DiMaria)
- Cutch maybe, I dunno who his wingers are
- paceme (barring Ivanovic and Scweini, anyone)
- Pol
(3) Don't let any of these players get underrated, especially Cambiasso
Zlatan has plenty of YouTube videos and stats to state his dominance. After Ronaldo, Messi - he's the best in the world. Him for 15m is the biggest bargain of this auction, no doubt. Prove it to the voters.
Cavani can play as as well on the left as he can on the right - he's done it many times before. YouTube and stats should help you out.
Ballack's problem, as has been said before, is that he entered Chelsea on the wane. Yet he was an integral part f their side. Pick up his stats and records from before to emphasize his ability to dominate the midfield. Use YouTube videos of his erformances for the national team, the number of goals he scores in crunch situations, etc. Some will say he's a cnut. Agree with them. Keane was a cnut to most opposition fans, too. Doesn't mean he's any less of a footballer. He's your badass guy in CM. Like Keane, he won't let the opposition settle into midfield - by hook or crook. Make sure you use him as the AM/CM hybrid - that's his best position.
Cambiasso has a more important role than Ballack in my team. At 30m, he's a steal. He's a genius, simply put. He can tackle, run with the ball, head it in, short pass it, and positions himself brilliantly. There are limited things he can do - but he's world class at what he does. Emphasize that. Use articles, select. Videos, match examples - convince the voters of his greatness. He's no Schweini, but he's just below.
Use the 10/11 season to showcase Valencia's 'best' and focus heavily on his strength, pace and defensive contribution - people have forgotten how good he once was in the wake of his post-injury performances.
Alternative formation/tactics
----------------Zlatan--Cavani-----------------
--------------------Zidane----------------------
---------Ballack--------------Cambiasso-------
----------------------DM------------------------
---Baines---Vidic-------Hummels-------RB----
-------------------Casillas------------------------
New manager, discuss this with @antohan
--------------------Zidane----------------------
---------Ballack--------------Cambiasso-------
----------------------DM------------------------
---Baines---Vidic-------Hummels-------RB----
-------------------Casillas------------------------
New manager, discuss this with @antohan
Whoever takes over, I'm sorry about mismanaging the funds. That's one thing I didn't get right at all. Adriano was a big mistake, and I did not wait till the end to make better buys. Improve on your RB/LB first thing if/when you get through. Unless you get a superstar, let Valencia stay in your lineup till the end - he's really good value for money.
A Confession:
I did think Adriano was a striker when I bid 19m for him. I confused him with Raul, is all. I have no idea why, but when I read Adriano's name, I had Raul's face in my head, and immediately raised the bid. Massive brainfart moment. Then I saw the thread reaction, checked it on google, and was like 'holy feck!'. Then I lied and did some drama and pulled myself out of the ditch. I am truly sorry about that.
It's been lots of fun, and I got to know a lot of poster and players because of this draft. I hope I can last the whole thing next time. Good luck to whoever's up against Edgar, VJ and paceme.
Thanks a lot @Polaroid @Annahnomoss @crappycraperson - I really enjoyed this.
Gandalf 
@ Adriano business
And I did not run the draft so only thanks to Pol and Annah.
@ Adriano business And I did not run the draft so only thanks to Pol and Annah.
That's an epic last post
Confusing him for Raul is even worse than saying he hadn't heard of that Adriano to begin with. We would have definitely thought he was making it up!
Confusing him for Raul is even worse than saying he hadn't heard of that Adriano to begin with. We would have definitely thought he was making it up!
that confessionDefenders added(Full-backs)
Forwards: 9
C.Vieri - 10M - VivaJ - 17:08
Lewandowski - 10m - Annah - 22:23
Owen - open to bids - 03.50
Forlan - open to bids - 03.50
Müller - 20M - Pol - 05.55
Torres - 10m - kps88 - 15.42
F. Totti - 15m - NoPace - 16:12
Overmars - 15m - Balu - 16:56
C. López - 10m - Balu - 19.01
Midfielders:17
Cocu - 18m - Balu - 18.08
Deco - 10m - Edgar - 03:38
Sneijder - open to bids - 03.50
Ozil - open to bids - 03.50
Reus - open to bids - 03.50
Carrick - open to bids - 03.50
Fabregas - 12m - MJJ-03.55
Kroos-10m Edgar -3 55
Ramsey-open to bids-3 55
Gundogan - 10M - Fergus - 6:48
Albertini - 15m - Pippa - 8.14
C. Marchisio - 10m - Edgar - 08:19
Sousa - 14m - kps88 - 15.42
Valeron - open to bids - 19.45
Aimar - open to bids - 19.45
Goetze - 10M - Fergus - 20:27
Mascherano - Open to bids - 21.20
Defenders:14
Boateng - 10 m - Annah - 22:20
Dante - 10 m - Annah - 22:20
R. Marquez -14m- MJJ - 01:23
Pique - 10m - NoPace - 03:37
Helguera - 12m - Pippa - 8.14
Maicon - 30m - NoPace - 19.01
Naybet - 10m- Crappy - 19.28
Coleman - open to bids - 19.45
Zabaleta - open to bids - 19.45
Nowotny - open to bids - 20.30
Carragher - open to bids - 20.30
Cordoba - open to bids - 20:30
Materazzi - 14m - Balu - 20:31
Panucci - Open to bids - 21:00
W. Brown - Open to bids - 21:00
C. Ziege - Open to bids - 21:00
M Reizeger - Open to bids -21:00
Godin - Open to bids - 21.20
Kuffour - Open to bids -21.20
Forwards: 9
C.Vieri - 10M - VivaJ - 17:08
Lewandowski - 10m - Annah - 22:23
Owen - open to bids - 03.50
Forlan - open to bids - 03.50
Müller - 20M - Pol - 05.55
Torres - 10m - kps88 - 15.42
F. Totti - 15m - NoPace - 16:12
Overmars - 15m - Balu - 16:56
C. López - 10m - Balu - 19.01
Midfielders:17
Cocu - 18m - Balu - 18.08
Deco - 10m - Edgar - 03:38
Sneijder - open to bids - 03.50
Ozil - open to bids - 03.50
Reus - open to bids - 03.50
Carrick - open to bids - 03.50
Fabregas - 12m - MJJ-03.55
Kroos-10m Edgar -3 55
Ramsey-open to bids-3 55
Gundogan - 10M - Fergus - 6:48
Albertini - 15m - Pippa - 8.14
C. Marchisio - 10m - Edgar - 08:19
Sousa - 14m - kps88 - 15.42
Valeron - open to bids - 19.45
Aimar - open to bids - 19.45
Goetze - 10M - Fergus - 20:27
Mascherano - Open to bids - 21.20
Defenders:14
Boateng - 10 m - Annah - 22:20
Dante - 10 m - Annah - 22:20
R. Marquez -14m- MJJ - 01:23
Pique - 10m - NoPace - 03:37
Helguera - 12m - Pippa - 8.14
Maicon - 30m - NoPace - 19.01
Naybet - 10m- Crappy - 19.28
Coleman - open to bids - 19.45
Zabaleta - open to bids - 19.45
Nowotny - open to bids - 20.30
Carragher - open to bids - 20.30
Cordoba - open to bids - 20:30
Materazzi - 14m - Balu - 20:31
Panucci - Open to bids - 21:00
W. Brown - Open to bids - 21:00
C. Ziege - Open to bids - 21:00
M Reizeger - Open to bids -21:00
Godin - Open to bids - 21.20
Kuffour - Open to bids -21.20
My team doesn't have mental strength 
@ Gandalf. What a funny guyThe most shocking thing about Gandalf's post is that he wants Zlatan to head the ball. It's more likely that he scores a goal with his foot 2m high in the air than with his head.
#DareToZlatan
Forwards: 9
C.Vieri - 10M - VivaJ - 17:08
Lewandowski - 10m - Annah - 22:23
Owen - open to bids - 03.50
Forlan - open to bids - 03.50
Müller - 20M - Pol - 05.55
Torres - 10m - kps88 - 15.42
F. Totti - 15m - NoPace - 16:12
Overmars - 15m - Balu - 16:56
C. López - 10m - Balu - 19.01
Midfielders:17
Cocu - 18m - Balu - 18.08
Deco - 10m - Edgar - 03:38
Sneijder - open to bids - 03.50
Ozil - open to bids - 03.50
Reus - open to bids - 03.50
Carrick - open to bids - 03.50
Fabregas - 12m - MJJ-03.55
Kroos-10m Edgar -3 55
Ramsey-open to bids-3 55
Gundogan - 10M - Fergus - 6:48
Albertini - 15m - Pippa - 8.14
C. Marchisio - 10m - Edgar - 08:19
Sousa - 14m - kps88 - 15.42
Valeron - open to bids - 19.45
Aimar - open to bids - 19.45
Goetze - 10M - Fergus - 20:27
Mascherano - Open to bids - 21.20
Defenders:14
Boateng - 10 m - Annah - 22:20
Dante - 10 m - Annah - 22:20
R. Marquez -14m- MJJ - 01:23
Pique - 10m - NoPace - 03:37
Helguera - 12m - Pippa - 8.14
Maicon - 30m - NoPace - 19.01
Naybet - 10m- Crappy - 19.28
Coleman - open to bids - 19.45
Zabaleta - open to bids - 19.45
Nowotny - open to bids - 20.30
Carragher - open to bids - 20.30
Cordoba - open to bids - 20:30
Materazzi - 14m - Balu - 20:31
Panucci - Open to bids - 21:00
W. Brown - Open to bids - 21:00
C. Ziege - Open to bids - 21:00
M Reizeger - Open to bids -21:00
Godin - Open to bids - 21.20
Kuffour - Open to bids -21.20
Barijuan - Annah 10m - 21:20
Ferrer - Anah 10m - 21:20
Rafinha - Open to bids - 21:00
Ze Maria - Open to bids - 21:00
Pessotto - Open to bids - 21:00
Silvestre - Open to bids - 22:00
Capdevilla - Open to bids - 22:00
C.Vieri - 10M - VivaJ - 17:08
Lewandowski - 10m - Annah - 22:23
Owen - open to bids - 03.50
Forlan - open to bids - 03.50
Müller - 20M - Pol - 05.55
Torres - 10m - kps88 - 15.42
F. Totti - 15m - NoPace - 16:12
Overmars - 15m - Balu - 16:56
C. López - 10m - Balu - 19.01
Midfielders:17
Cocu - 18m - Balu - 18.08
Deco - 10m - Edgar - 03:38
Sneijder - open to bids - 03.50
Ozil - open to bids - 03.50
Reus - open to bids - 03.50
Carrick - open to bids - 03.50
Fabregas - 12m - MJJ-03.55
Kroos-10m Edgar -3 55
Ramsey-open to bids-3 55
Gundogan - 10M - Fergus - 6:48
Albertini - 15m - Pippa - 8.14
C. Marchisio - 10m - Edgar - 08:19
Sousa - 14m - kps88 - 15.42
Valeron - open to bids - 19.45
Aimar - open to bids - 19.45
Goetze - 10M - Fergus - 20:27
Mascherano - Open to bids - 21.20
Defenders:14
Boateng - 10 m - Annah - 22:20
Dante - 10 m - Annah - 22:20
R. Marquez -14m- MJJ - 01:23
Pique - 10m - NoPace - 03:37
Helguera - 12m - Pippa - 8.14
Maicon - 30m - NoPace - 19.01
Naybet - 10m- Crappy - 19.28
Coleman - open to bids - 19.45
Zabaleta - open to bids - 19.45
Nowotny - open to bids - 20.30
Carragher - open to bids - 20.30
Cordoba - open to bids - 20:30
Materazzi - 14m - Balu - 20:31
Panucci - Open to bids - 21:00
W. Brown - Open to bids - 21:00
C. Ziege - Open to bids - 21:00
M Reizeger - Open to bids -21:00
Godin - Open to bids - 21.20
Kuffour - Open to bids -21.20
Barijuan - Annah 10m - 21:20
Ferrer - Anah 10m - 21:20
Rafinha - Open to bids - 21:00
Ze Maria - Open to bids - 21:00
Pessotto - Open to bids - 21:00
Silvestre - Open to bids - 22:00
Capdevilla - Open to bids - 22:00
Last edited:
I have to admit, there is something extremely special about Zlatan!
Absolutely, one reason I've been quite happy to watch from the outside here, you wouldn't have this team, no question.
I don't either. You misunderstood me. What I was getting at is for people to imagine someone doing that you need him in such and such position and formation. God knows why, of course you would instruct him to play to his strengths. Yes, he starts on the left of your frontline, he provides you with width down that side, but you would never ask him to play like Ryan Giggs but more like Henry used to.
I would never buy all them Argies playing in a diamond, it's not a formation that is in their DNA at all.
Forwards: 9
C.Vieri - 10M - VivaJ - 17:08
Lewandowski - 10m - Annah - 22:23
Owen - open to bids - 03.50
Forlan - open to bids - 03.50
Müller - 20M - Pol - 05.55
Torres - 10m - kps88 - 15.42
F. Totti - 15m - NoPace - 16:12
Overmars - 15m - Balu - 16:56
C. López - 10m - Balu - 19.01
Midfielders:17
Cocu - 18m - Balu - 18.08
Deco - 10m - Edgar - 03:38
Sneijder - open to bids - 03.50
Ozil - open to bids - 03.50
Reus - open to bids - 03.50
Carrick - open to bids - 03.50
Fabregas - 12m - MJJ-03.55
Kroos-10m Edgar -3 55
Ramsey-open to bids-3 55
Gundogan - 10M - Fergus - 6:48
Albertini - 15m - Pippa - 8.14
C. Marchisio - 10m - Edgar - 08:19
Sousa - 14m - kps88 - 15.42
Valeron - open to bids - 19.45
Aimar - open to bids - 19.45
Goetze - 10M - Fergus - 20:27
Mascherano - Open to bids - 21.20
Defenders:14
Boateng - 10 m - Annah - 22:20
Dante - 10 m - Annah - 22:20
R. Marquez -14m- MJJ - 01:23
Pique - 10m - NoPace - 03:37
Helguera - 12m - Pippa - 8.14
Maicon - 30m - NoPace - 19.01
Naybet - 10m- Crappy - 19.28
Coleman - open to bids - 19.45
Zabaleta - open to bids - 19.45
Nowotny - open to bids - 20.30
Carragher - open to bids - 20.30
Cordoba - open to bids - 20:30
Materazzi - 14m - Balu - 20:31
Panucci - Open to bids - 21:00
W. Brown - Open to bids - 21:00
C. Ziege - Open to bids - 21:00
M Reizeger - Open to bids -21:00
Godin - Open to bids - 21.20
Kuffour - Open to bids -21.20
Rafinha - Open to bids - 21:00
Ze Maria - Open to bids - 21:00
Pessotto - Open to bids - 21:00
Silvestre - Open to bids - 22:00
Capdevilla - Open to bids - 22:00
Lauren - Open to bids - 22:00
Babbel - Open to bids - 22:00
Candela - open to bids - 22.00
Barijuan - Aldo 12m - 22.00
Ferrer - Aldo 12m - 22.00
Torricelli - open to bids - 22.00
@Annahnomoss sergi ferrer
C.Vieri - 10M - VivaJ - 17:08
Lewandowski - 10m - Annah - 22:23
Owen - open to bids - 03.50
Forlan - open to bids - 03.50
Müller - 20M - Pol - 05.55
Torres - 10m - kps88 - 15.42
F. Totti - 15m - NoPace - 16:12
Overmars - 15m - Balu - 16:56
C. López - 10m - Balu - 19.01
Midfielders:17
Cocu - 18m - Balu - 18.08
Deco - 10m - Edgar - 03:38
Sneijder - open to bids - 03.50
Ozil - open to bids - 03.50
Reus - open to bids - 03.50
Carrick - open to bids - 03.50
Fabregas - 12m - MJJ-03.55
Kroos-10m Edgar -3 55
Ramsey-open to bids-3 55
Gundogan - 10M - Fergus - 6:48
Albertini - 15m - Pippa - 8.14
C. Marchisio - 10m - Edgar - 08:19
Sousa - 14m - kps88 - 15.42
Valeron - open to bids - 19.45
Aimar - open to bids - 19.45
Goetze - 10M - Fergus - 20:27
Mascherano - Open to bids - 21.20
Defenders:14
Boateng - 10 m - Annah - 22:20
Dante - 10 m - Annah - 22:20
R. Marquez -14m- MJJ - 01:23
Pique - 10m - NoPace - 03:37
Helguera - 12m - Pippa - 8.14
Maicon - 30m - NoPace - 19.01
Naybet - 10m- Crappy - 19.28
Coleman - open to bids - 19.45
Zabaleta - open to bids - 19.45
Nowotny - open to bids - 20.30
Carragher - open to bids - 20.30
Cordoba - open to bids - 20:30
Materazzi - 14m - Balu - 20:31
Panucci - Open to bids - 21:00
W. Brown - Open to bids - 21:00
C. Ziege - Open to bids - 21:00
M Reizeger - Open to bids -21:00
Godin - Open to bids - 21.20
Kuffour - Open to bids -21.20
Rafinha - Open to bids - 21:00
Ze Maria - Open to bids - 21:00
Pessotto - Open to bids - 21:00
Silvestre - Open to bids - 22:00
Capdevilla - Open to bids - 22:00
Lauren - Open to bids - 22:00
Babbel - Open to bids - 22:00
Candela - open to bids - 22.00
Barijuan - Aldo 12m - 22.00
Ferrer - Aldo 12m - 22.00
Torricelli - open to bids - 22.00
@Annahnomoss sergi ferrer
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I'm quite sure Sergi = Barjuan. @Aldo
Yes
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Makes it more fun but. This has nearly been too easy. I think i've got exactly the starting 11 i drew up at the start, with the exception of Crespo, and not being able to afford Lopez for 12th man. If you and Gio (who's behind the scenes with me in this one btw) had both been involved it would have been back to the drawing board for sure.
I actually was agreeing with you
. Probably could have phrased it better though.@Aldo You are bidding for Sergi Barijuan 2 times.
Yeah saw that. Changed.
You really think so? Come on.
In 1996-97 he was regarded as the best left midfielder in La Liga and one of the best overall. Mundo Deportivo 1997
Hell, even before the 1996-97 season he was expected to play left midfield at Barcelona. MD, June 1996
In 1997-98 he was playing much more centrally. Media attributed his surge in goals because LVG was playing him in the middle more. "Louis van Gaal también está sacando el máximo rendimiento de él. El técnico holandés lo ha hecho alinearse como medio centro [central midfielder], como interior [interior midfielder], como mediapunta [attacking midfielder], como extremo [winger] y como delantero centro [centre forward]." MD, January 1998
And just to add on to the claim that he played more centrally in 1997-98 ... MD, August 1997 There's a certain quote from Enrique that adds on to it. "Ésta es una posición diferente a las que estaba acostumbrado porque no es en banda y porque es de enlace entre la defense y la delatera. Sólo me queda jugar de central." The headline is the charm.
He rarely, if ever played on the right during his best period at Barcelona. That was Figo's position and he didn't miss many matches. Figo played 88% of league matches from 1996-97 to 1999-00. Enrique played only 73% of league matches in that same time span. Sure, Enrique had one-offs like against Depor in 1998 but those are rarities.
Not sure what the argument is here. As you point out, Luis Enrique was versatile and competent in many positions. I'd agree he excelled as a World Class player at mediocentro and mediapunta, not as an out and out winger.
I mentioned that to Viva earlier as well but he seems to be keen on strengthening that flank. Reminds me a bit of that thing with Petit right to protect his fullback earlier. I don't get it, I think Lucho protects his fullback better from midfield, not the wing, but each to their own.
I do enjoy this Spanish sources you bring up, not familiar with Spanish sites beyond the usual Marca/As news. Last time out when discussing Rivaldo and Makelele I randomly clicked on a Barca-Celta one and the player assessments read:
Makelele: imperious, took hold of the game and the midfield. MotM
Rivaldo: Great for 10 minutes, then disappeared.
Was in fits reading that after the Makelele debacle.
I don't see Enrique as a right winger in a 4-2-3-1. I don't see him as a right winger at all really during his peak.
If anything his team would be more suited to a 4-4-2 with Giggs and Enrique at wide midfield positions, if he's keen on staying with that. I would rather see a 4-4-2 than something different personally. It's why I stuck to that with Giggs and Donadoni as wingers in the Sheep Draft.
Anything to see less 4-2-3-1 teams.
If anything his team would be more suited to a 4-4-2 with Giggs and Enrique at wide midfield positions, if he's keen on staying with that. I would rather see a 4-4-2 than something different personally. It's why I stuck to that with Giggs and Donadoni as wingers in the Sheep Draft.
Anything to see less 4-2-3-1 teams.
Poor Annah
What strikes me about all this is how enthusiastic Annah was that only an auction would draw out the real value of players and how they were rated. It was a real-life experiment which would unveil a definitive ranking across time and positions.
I told him back then he was assuming free markets worked perfectly. I spent my entire degree arguing with professors that everythig I was studying was bullshit because the fundamental premise was people acted rationally.
I would like to show them some of the prices here.
Forwards: 9
C.Vieri - 10M - VivaJ - 17:08
Lewandowski - 10m - Annah - 22:23
Owen - open to bids - 03.50
Forlan - open to bids - 03.50
Müller - 20M - Pol - 05.55
Torres - 10m - kps88 - 15.42
F. Totti - 15m - NoPace - 16:12
Overmars - 15m - Balu - 16:56
C. López - 10m - Balu - 19.01
Midfielders:17
Cocu - 18m - Balu - 18.08
Deco - 10m - Edgar - 03:38
Sneijder - open to bids - 03.50
Ozil - open to bids - 03.50
Reus - open to bids - 03.50
Carrick - open to bids - 03.50
Fabregas - 12m - MJJ-03.55
Kroos-10m Edgar -3 55
Ramsey-open to bids-3 55
Gundogan - 10M - Fergus - 6:48
Albertini - 15m - Pippa - 8.14
C. Marchisio - 10m - Edgar - 08:19
Sousa - 14m - kps88 - 15.42
Valeron - open to bids - 19.45
Aimar - open to bids - 19.45
Goetze - 10M - Fergus - 20:27
Mascherano - Open to bids - 21.20
Defenders:14
Boateng - 10 m - Annah - 22:20
Dante - 10 m - Annah - 22:20
R. Marquez -14m- MJJ - 01:23
Pique - 10m - NoPace - 03:37
Helguera - 12m - Pippa - 8.14
Maicon - 30m - NoPace - 19.01
Naybet - 10m- Crappy - 19.28
Coleman - open to bids - 19.45
Zabaleta - 10m - Annah 19.45
Nowotny - open to bids - 20.30
Carragher - open to bids - 20.30
Cordoba - open to bids - 20:30
Materazzi - 14m - Balu - 20:31
Panucci - Open to bids - 21:00
W. Brown - Open to bids - 21:00
C. Ziege - Open to bids - 21:00
M Reizeger - 10m - Annah -21:00
Godin - Open to bids - 21.20
Kuffour - Open to bids -21.20
Rafinha - Open to bids - 21:00
Ze Maria - Open to bids - 21:00
Pessotto - Open to bids - 21:00
Silvestre - Open to bids - 22:00
Capdevilla - 10m - Annah - 22:00
Babbel - Open to bids - 22:00
Candela - open to bids - 22.00
Barijuan - Aldo 12m - 22.00
Ferrer - Aldo 12m - 22.00
C.Vieri - 10M - VivaJ - 17:08
Lewandowski - 10m - Annah - 22:23
Owen - open to bids - 03.50
Forlan - open to bids - 03.50
Müller - 20M - Pol - 05.55
Torres - 10m - kps88 - 15.42
F. Totti - 15m - NoPace - 16:12
Overmars - 15m - Balu - 16:56
C. López - 10m - Balu - 19.01
Midfielders:17
Cocu - 18m - Balu - 18.08
Deco - 10m - Edgar - 03:38
Sneijder - open to bids - 03.50
Ozil - open to bids - 03.50
Reus - open to bids - 03.50
Carrick - open to bids - 03.50
Fabregas - 12m - MJJ-03.55
Kroos-10m Edgar -3 55
Ramsey-open to bids-3 55
Gundogan - 10M - Fergus - 6:48
Albertini - 15m - Pippa - 8.14
C. Marchisio - 10m - Edgar - 08:19
Sousa - 14m - kps88 - 15.42
Valeron - open to bids - 19.45
Aimar - open to bids - 19.45
Goetze - 10M - Fergus - 20:27
Mascherano - Open to bids - 21.20
Defenders:14
Boateng - 10 m - Annah - 22:20
Dante - 10 m - Annah - 22:20
R. Marquez -14m- MJJ - 01:23
Pique - 10m - NoPace - 03:37
Helguera - 12m - Pippa - 8.14
Maicon - 30m - NoPace - 19.01
Naybet - 10m- Crappy - 19.28
Coleman - open to bids - 19.45
Zabaleta - 10m - Annah 19.45
Nowotny - open to bids - 20.30
Carragher - open to bids - 20.30
Cordoba - open to bids - 20:30
Materazzi - 14m - Balu - 20:31
Panucci - Open to bids - 21:00
W. Brown - Open to bids - 21:00
C. Ziege - Open to bids - 21:00
M Reizeger - 10m - Annah -21:00
Godin - Open to bids - 21.20
Kuffour - Open to bids -21.20
Rafinha - Open to bids - 21:00
Ze Maria - Open to bids - 21:00
Pessotto - Open to bids - 21:00
Silvestre - Open to bids - 22:00
Capdevilla - 10m - Annah - 22:00
Babbel - Open to bids - 22:00
Candela - open to bids - 22.00
Barijuan - Aldo 12m - 22.00
Ferrer - Aldo 12m - 22.00
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Poor Annah
What strikes me about all this is how enthusiastic Annah was that only an auction would draw out the real value of players and how they were rated. It was a real-life experiment which would unveil a definitive ranking across time and positions.
I told him back then he was assuming free markets worked perfectly. I spent my entire degree arguing with professors that everythig I was studying was bullshit because the fundamental premise was people acted rationally.
I would like to show them some of the prices here.
Uhm, the issue in this draft has been the random lists of purchasable players. What I suggested was that if we had a position one, or none at all it would be easier to make a comparison.
Then everybody would be buying a winger at the same time and even if the first position would be inflated and the least would be going for a bargain we'd see a comparison within the position.
Of course I always wanted this to be an all-position kind of thing, so we wouldn't have this issue. That would be the only time we could get any clue between positions in a good enough way.
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Is Aldo actually going to get those fullbacks for 12m each?
I'm thinking about bidding for them just to force him to have shit fullbacks. His team is already scary enoughIs Aldo actually going to get those fullbacks for 12m each?
.Yep. I hve 31 for 2 playersIs Aldo actually going to get those fullbacks for 12m each?
Couple of nice options to have. Having seen you're also in for Overmars the 4-3-3 would actually work well. Similar to how Argentina played in 98. Lopez would roam inside, and probably also swap about a bit during the game with Overmars who's probably even more dangerous on the left.
Exactly.
I'm thinking about bidding for them just to force him to have shit fullbacks. His team is already scary enough
Think you've done enough bullying you fecker. You've already priced me out of Crespo, and now poor Fergus who had to sell Raul to finance a budget offer for Marco fecking Materazzi, and still got outpriced.
He also raised the price on Silva.
Well, he did turn out a bit more Rothschild and a little less Hoeness once he sorted out his feckups. He is using his war chest to screw with you all, which is fair enough, exactly how it should be played!
What did I tell you in that convo at the start? Look at that plan I had for a team with 50M to spare, they've gone for less money than I even planned for!!!!!!
This is a bit risky. You've got 41m left now that you've signed Lewandowski, and you're bidding on 5 players (50m), 2 of which are rightbacks.
Ouch what a mistake didn't plan to bid on Reizieger at all. Must have written my name in the wrong place then lost it and redid it in the right. Contacted Pol and explained the situation, he'll sort it out!
@Polaroid
My team is weak mentally and physically apparently. Who knew.
He clearly has no idea who Jeremies is, and gammara and samuel are flipping monsters in terms of strength. Samuel actually played against Zlatan a few times and was never beaten physically. Lazy @Gandalf Greyhame
He clearly has no idea who Jeremies is, and gammara and samuel are flipping monsters in terms of strength. Samuel actually played against Zlatan a few times and was never beaten physically. Lazy @Gandalf Greyhame
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Yep you definately had a point. It did pay to be patient i think in this one and pick up the bargains at the end, of which there are now so many. You could have went AWOL until today, picked up a team for 110-130m max, scraped through the 1st round with a bit of luck, then you'd have a 220-240m warchest for the 2nd round.