Transfer Muppet Fantasy

Aldo said:
He's basically a luxury player, at least at City. If you want to get the best out of him, you need to have two midfielders doing the dirty work. He's superb on the ball, his vision has gone up quite well as well, constantly picks out wide players with quality passes, etc.

He can't be arsed to defend, which is why I would never be comfortable with him in a pivot role. He was arsed to do that when he was at Barca.
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Yeah, I agree with that. You get either the strong defensive holding midfielder from his Barca days or the defensive liability but huge goal threat City version. You can't have both though and I want neither in my team ;).
 
Aldo said:
He's basically a luxury player, at least at City. If you want to get the best out of him, you need to have two midfielders doing the dirty work. He's superb on the ball, his vision has gone up quite well as well, constantly picks out wide players with quality passes, etc.

He can't be arsed to defend, which is why I would never be comfortable with him in a pivot role. He was arsed to do that when he was at Barca.
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I agree he can be lazy at times, but I wouldn't go as far as saying this. I think Yaya is inconsistent in this respect. I've seen games where he has worked as hard as anybody defensively, but I've also seen big defensive lapses and a lack of tracking back.
 
rpitroda said:
I agree he can be lazy at times, but I wouldn't go as far as saying this. I think Yaya is inconsistent in this respect. I've seen games where he has worked as hard as anybody defensively, but I've also seen big defensive lapses and a lack of tracking back.
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Well, the good thing is, Keane will kick his ass until he starts working, therefore we maybe should give him a bit more credit for his workrate in your team :lol:
 
VivaJanuzaj said:
Wonder how Yaya and Keano will get along in the same team, would've loved to see them argue in real life and having a go..
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All I know is it'll be less of a problem then @NoPace who has managed to combine Evra and Suarez...

That and you have Sol who'll be asking to be Captain as the backdrop, and Essien who might well be 50 years old.

Would love to commentate on a game which goes to penalties with that team :lol:
 
Balu said:
Well, the good thing is, Keane will kick his ass until he starts working, therefore we maybe should give him a bit more credit for his workrate in your team :lol:
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Good point :lol:

But no, I'm fully aware of his defensive lapses. The players in my team will reflect this, though.
 
rpitroda said:
I agree he can be lazy at times, but I wouldn't go as far as saying this. I think Yaya is inconsistent in this respect. I've seen games where he has worked as hard as anybody defensively, but I've also seen big defensive lapses and a lack of tracking back.
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Yeah but he's basic form is "I hate defending feck it"...
Just like you can see games where Laudrup would've fought defensively and giving his 100% but it wasn't the case of him, he usually didn't do it...
 
rpitroda said:
All I know is it'll be less of a problem then @NoPace who has managed to combine Evra and Suarez...

That and you have Sol who'll be asking to be Captain as the backdrop, and Essien who might well be 50 years old.

Would love to commentate on a game which goes to penalties with that team :lol:
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:D I wonder if it will be a legit point argued against that team in the match thread.
 
Finally back. Thank you @Polaroid for taking Sheva off my hands. Someone else please take Eto'o. Please. :(
And why am I being outbidded on Lampard ffs
 
Total Player Pool: 35

Forwards:10

Villa - 12m - kps88 - 16.55
D. Silva - 18m - annah - 17.49
Henry - 55 m - Aldo - 18.10
Rooney - 34m - MJJ 00.16
Van Persie - 10M- Crappy - 01.10
Crespo - 17m - Balu - 01.45
Tevez - 10m - Rpitroda - 02.51
Aguero - 10m - Rpitroda - 02.51
Shevchenko - 31m - Pol - 06.37
Müller - 14M - Balu - 07.33

Midfielders:15

Makelele-32m-Aldo-18:28
Kaka 33m - Aldo - 18.47
Modric-18m- Pol - 19.00
Rui Costa - 34M - Aldo - 19.06
Martinez - 23M - Fergus - 19:59
Yaya Toure 29m - Rpitroda - 00.10
P.Vieira - 53m - Aldo - 00.16
Simeone - 22M - Balu - 00.48
De Rossi - 22m- Crappy 01.55
Vidal - 25m - Pol 02.10
Lampard - 20m - Nopace - 02.28
Schweinsteiger - 40m - Paceme- 5:30
Cocu - 10m - Balu - 09.10
F. Malouda - 10m - Edgar - 09:20
E.Petit - 10m - VivaJ 09:42

Defenders:10

Chiellini - 30m - Cutch - 14.25
Pessotto-10m-paceme-01.10
Filipe Luis-10m-MJJ-01.10
Gallas- 12m - Pol - 02.10
Cannavaro - 45m - Balu - 02.14
Gio Van Bronkhorst - 10m - Rpitroda - 02.51
Varane - 10m - MJJ - 02.51
Hummels - 12m - Gandalf - 7.35
Frank de Boer - 14m - VivaJ - 09:19
G. Heinze - 10m - Edgar - 09:20

Goalkeepers:0



Sold:
Eto'o - 24M - Pippa
Emerson - 12m - MJJ
Albelda - 10m - Pippa
Valenica -10m - Gandalf
Andersson - 12m - Edgar
Ivanovic -14m - Paceme
Baines- 10m-Gandalf
 
kps88 said:
I was hoping everyone would just forget about Cocu. Do people think he would work at the base of a diamond? Or is he only best in the left midfield spot?

I remember @antohan having him in a draft. Can't remember how you played him though.
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He would work at the base, no probs. I would prefer him in the left role in a diamond, purely because he suits it and usually some really random choices are made for the central roles in diamonds. But he can do either.

VivaJanuzaj said:
Yeah he played like Balu described it. I'm still thinking myself to take Cocu to play next to Seedorf in CM, I don't see any problems with that
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The Dutch NT didn't seem to have a problem with that either.

Gio said:
The beauty of Cocu is that he can play well pretty much anywhere between left back across and up to central midfield.
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That's one reason I was pissed off to draw you. One time I had picked Cocu and the only chap around who also highly rates him would be a mute :(
 
Balu said:
Yeah, I believe you. I honestly have no clue how that 30m fine would work? If you can't afford Costa, you loose the player, your overall budget is reduced to 270 and you're again in the same situation as before, right? Then you loose Kaka, your budget goes down to 240, well fecked again? Or am I missing something? I've no idea how that will work, but I don't have a solution either, in case no one outbids you on one of your expensive players.
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Balu said:
I believe he should be allowed to take bids back for 10m fines. For example, step back from Vieira, so trippy's bid is highest again and loose 10m budget. If he does that for Henry and Vieira, he's still in good shape to build a strong team, but it hurts a little.
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VivaJanuzaj said:
That kind of screws the game, because than someone can end up getting Viera for 10M because he saved money for late.. I say in this case Aldo has to give up one of his players, get a 10-15M fine, and that player is out of the draft for everybody else.
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Oh, the irony...

Aldo said:
Not make a point but why should we bid now at a higher price when we can get the same player later at a lower price?
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:p
 
Aldo said:
He's basically a luxury player, at least at City. If you want to get the best out of him, you need to have two midfielders doing the dirty work. He's superb on the ball, his vision has gone up quite well as well, constantly picks out wide players with quality passes, etc.

He can't be arsed to defend, which is why I would never be comfortable with him in a pivot role. He wasn't arsed to do that when he was at Barca.
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Fixed.

I don't get the Yaya love either. I can see he is having a storming season but he needs a midfield built around him and there are far better players to build a midfield around.

Don't rate his team ethic either, pretty much think he left Barca for that reason, him not being willing to play a role in a well oiled machine but wanting to have a starring role and leaving others to do the legwork. You look at him and his career as a player and that's the vibe you get. In my opinion, of course.
 
What is happening with Gandalf's team? He is offline for 2 weeks I believe.
 
antohan said:
He would work at the base, no probs. I would prefer him in the left role in a diamond, purely because he suits it and usually some really random choices are made for the central roles in diamonds. But he can do either.



The Dutch NT didn't seem to have a problem with that either.



That's one reason I was pissed off to draw you. One time I had picked Cocu and the only chap around who also highly rates him would be a mute :(
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:wenger:

Agree though. Him and Davids ran midfields together for Holland at both World Cup '98 and Euro 2000. He's another one of these multi-functional players who can round off a midfield, much like Schweinsteiger and Seedorf.
 
antohan said:
Oh, the irony...
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I've said from the start, budgets should be tracked and bids should be invalid if they exceed the budget, because the fine is a bad idea ;). One of the reasons why I disliked your 'tactics'.
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Was that you partnering him?
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I really wasn't much of a partner. In the old draft, I was manager and he was AM. But I had no time, so told him he could take over when the draft restarted. He kept messaging me for advise, and I was too busy. I feel bad, I skrewed him for his first draft.

Then I got a PM from him yesterday saying he was going to be offline for 2 weeks and was giving the team to somebody else.
 
NM said:
I really wasn't much of a partner. In the old draft, I was manager and he was AM. But I had no time, so told him he could take over when the draft restarted. He kept messaging me for advise, and I was too busy. I feel bad, I skrewed him for his first draft.

Then I got a PM from him yesterday saying he was going to be offline for 2 weeks and was giving the team to somebody else.
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So, if you have time now take over. Not sure he's given to anyone!
 
antohan said:
Fixed.

I don't get the Yaya love either. I can see he is having a storming season but he needs a midfield built around him and there are far better players to build a midfield around.

Don't rate his team ethic either, pretty much think he left Barca for that reason, him not being willing to play a role in a well oiled machine but wanting to have a starring role and leaving others to do the legwork. You look at him and his career as a player and that's the vibe you get. In my opinion, of course.
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I don't think that is entirely fair though. Yaya's strongest aspect of his game is to get forward. Barca wanted him to sit as a holding midfielder. If you take a player and don't play them how they work best, of course they will get disillusioned. You make it sound as if a midfielder is a midfielder and should be able to play every role. The role Yaya is best at, and the one he was asked to play at Barca, are very different. Just like Rooney get's upset for playing deep, no 10's get upset for playing on the wing, etc etc.

I agree that he often doesn't do the defensive duties he could and probably should do, but then, there are many great players who don't do the defensive duties they could or should do because they are best going forward. Football is full of these players, and many teams accomodate them by buying the right players to support them. There are many teams who will sign players to support their stars.

I find it interesting though that with Yaya, when City do that it's because he wants all the glory. Yet if it was some other top class players in the world, it'd be viewed very differently.

For the record, I'm not arguing this because he's in my team. I just genuinely think he is an exceptionally good player who, yes, requires certain supporting team members, but give that to him and he excels. Just like most stars around world football.
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
So, if you have time now take over. Not sure he's given to anyone!
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No can do buddy. Just wanted to post in here in case he had not spoken to Pol. I thought he had. I hope I'm mistaken and he is still around, but that's not the PM I got.
 
Balu said:
I've said from the start, budgets should be tracked and bids should be invalid if they exceed the budget, because the fine is a bad idea ;). One of the reasons why I disliked your 'tactics'.
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Never seen an auction house that doesn't let people bid with money they don't have.

BTW @Aldo, was just taking the piss, clearly.
 
NM said:
I really wasn't much of a partner. In the old draft, I was manager and he was AM. But I had no time, so told him he could take over when the draft restarted. He kept messaging me for advise, and I was too busy. I feel bad, I skrewed him for his first draft.

Then I got a PM from him yesterday saying he was going to be offline for 2 weeks and was giving the team to somebody else.
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Your team mate! Don't worry, bar the raise on Casillas and Adriano @19M he has done quite well. We've exchanged some PMs on the team as well as he was looking at how to fit them all together nicely. Could send you what we discussed if you want as you are still short of one player beyond the CB & FB he has bids on.
 
Annahnomoss said:
How do people look at:
Pedro----Neymar-----Silva in the front trio.

@antohan
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Meh. They actually suit what you are trying to do, but the honest response on how it would play out is Meh.

Mind, it's hard to think of how you could put together anything better for 10M each. I think you missed a trick in not getting a more recognised striker in Cavani.
 
antohan said:
Meh. They actually suit what you are trying to do, but the honest response on how it would play out is Meh.

Mind, it's hard to think of how you could put together anything better for 10M each. I think you missed a trick in not getting a more recognised striker in Cavani.
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Just trying to help Trippy with buying Pedro. He isn't in my plans at all. But I feel the same way about it, it is hard to win a game with that front-line as it really lacks a goal-scorer.

Well cheers mate.
 
rpitroda said:
rpitroda - D. Beckham 40M, J. Terry 34m, G. Neville 32m, R. Keane (Abidal (25m)+ 35m) R. V. Nistelrooy 25m, S. Hyppia 14m, Pedro 10m, Reina 10m = 75m.

Annahmoss - Xavi 66M, Busquests 54M, Iniesta 89M (from paceme), Neymar 12m(from GG) = 79M

VivaJanuzaj - Van der Sar 15M, Piszczek 10M, Seedorf 35M, Enrique 38M, Giggs 65M, Jaap Stam 40M = 97M

Pippa - Pires 32M + Figo 71M + Adriano 10M + Cole 34M + Baraja 10M + Silva 49M + Salgado 10m, Cesar = 74m left

Gandalf -Casillas 19m, Vidic 43m, Adriano 19m, Cambiasso 29M, Ballack 39M, Zidane 71m, Cavani 10m, Zlatan 15m, (Neymar-10->12m) = 57M left.

Fergus - Ronaldo 95m, Zanetti 50m, Angel di Maria 15m, Kompany 20m, Raul 30M, Del Piero 25M, Toldo 12M, Alba 13M = 40M

Cutch - Buffon 15m, Thuram 50m, Nesta 60m, Joaquin 10m Ivan De La Pena 10m, Guardiola 39m, Mendieta 34m, Kily Gonzalez 10m, Juan Roman Riquelme 27m= 255m (45m left)

kps 88 - Cech 10M Carlos 42m R. Carvalho 34M Gerrard 42 Davids 45 = 127m

paceme - Iniesta (70=>89M), Robben 30M, Messi (115m), Gammara (20m), Jeremies (14m), Ljungberg 20m, Scholl 22m, Samuel 22m, Lopez 10m = 66m

MJJ - Nedved (60m), Sagna (10m) Ronaldo(102m) DDG(10m) Shearer(25m) = 93m

Edgar - Drogba 35m, Lahm 45m, Zambrotta 30m, Valdes 10m, Gattuso 35m, Pirlo 55m, Sergio Ramos 16m = 74m

Crappy - Ronaldinho (70m), Scholes(55m), P.Montero(27m), D.Alves(32m), Peruzzi (10m), Ribery(40m), Sorin(12m)= 54m

Aldo - Rio Ferdinand 48m, Hazard 10m, Puyol 24m, Courtois = 208m

Balu - Verón (31m), Neuer (15m), Abidal (Keane (65m) - 35m), Sagnol (28m) = 196m

NoPace - Bale (25m), Evra (28m), X Alonso (28m), Suarez 20m, Essien 24m, Sol Campbell 25m = 150m

Pol/Theon - Lucio (26m), Marcelo (21m) Cafú (52m) Rivaldo (69m), Lloris (10m) = 122m
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Can anybody update it with the last pages?
 
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