Top 6 prediction 2016-2017

Who will win the league?

  • Leicester

  • Man Utd

  • Tottenham

  • Arsenal

  • Chelsea

  • Man City

  • Liverpool

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1 - City
2 - Chelsea
3 - Utd
4 - Arsenal
5 - Liverpool
6 - Spurs

As it stand right now - subject to change depending on transfers.

I can see Conte's defensive nous really making a difference at Chelsea - defending has been a lost art in the prem for many years. Any top team that defends well has a chance. A lot could also spend on long runs in Europe and the domestic cups. Having a full week to prepare for games as the season goes on helps.
 
1. United
2. Arsenal
3. City
4. Spurs
5. West Ham
6. Chelsea
 
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Bastian said:
Apologies if this is a duplicate thread - couldn't find one.

Maybe this is too early, but I'm curious to see how player acquisition and pre-season form may change people's minds.

1. Arsenal
2. United
3. City
4. Chelsea
5. Spurs
6. Leicester
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I don't need to predict.
I already know the finishing order for 2015/2016:

We finish 5th. And LCFC in first.

;)
 
Finn MacCool said:
I can see Conte's defensive nous really making a difference at Chelsea - defending has been a lost art in the prem for many years. Any top team that defends well has a chance. A lot could also spend on long runs in Europe and the domestic cups. Having a full week to prepare for games as the season goes on helps.
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Historically, Mourinho teams are also defensively, strong.
 
Offside said:
Biggest myth in football. We were shite without Euro football and Spurs were quality with it. It's insignificant if you have a strong squad and good manager.
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Indeed.
Both times we won the CL, in those respective years, we also won the league.
 
I'm surprised to see people placing Arsenal outside of the top four. Wenger seems to achieve that goal every year regardless of what's going on around him.
 
So difficult this season.

1. United
2. City
3. Arsenal
4. Chelsea
5. Liverpool
6. Spurs

Hard to believe that Mourinho can take a side that has finished 7th,4th,5th to the title in his first season but looking at the competition: City and Chelsea who are the usual culprits also have managers in their first season, both of which have no PL experience. Of the others, the only team who have proven they have what it takes are Leicester :lol:. I'm hoping we can get off to a good start whilst others are still adapting.
 
sunama said:
Historically, Mourinho teams are also defensively, strong.
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Thats true and I expect that to continue at Utd - I think the EL might hinder you from winning the title next season. It really depends how seriously Mourinho takes the knockout stages - if you have a chance of winning the league, he might bin the EL.
 
sunama said:
Indeed.
Both times we won the CL, in those respective years, we also won the league.
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You can also look at that from the other perspective - that means in recent times, there were 11 times you didn't win the CL at the same time you won the league. Winning in both Europe and the league is not easy - I think the two times you pointed out are the only times any english club has won in both since we did in 1984.
 
sunama said:
Indeed.
Both times we won the CL, in those respective years, we also won the league.
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That's not taking everything into account. Both times you did the double you had a relatively deep settled squad that was very familar with your long time managers tactics

Very different situation. Last year I highly doubt LCFC would have been anywhere near the title if they had Europe league as Ranieri even said the week to prepare really helped. Likewise with Liverpool 2nd place. Despite Studge and Suarez brilliance without that full week and with EL I can't see pool sustaining that challenge as long as they did.

On the other side you have examples like City last year or Chelsea the year they won suffering in the league while focusing on the CL.

With Chelsea adjusting to a new manager and tactical system with at least a few new starting XI after a drama filled last season they will definitely benefit tactically and physically from not being in Europe competition
 
ivaldo said:
How many times have the league been won by a team without European football, last year definitely wasn't standard process.
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That isn't the question you should be asking yourself. If you have a big enough, powerful enough, squad and are, just as importantly, lucky with injuries (and increasingly influential issue today with the number of games being played and extra kms being run, that was partly responsible for derailing both United and Liverpool last season) then you get away with it. However Chelsea will have a strong and powerful squad. The lack of midweek games for the greater part of the season is going to play a key part in keeping their team fit and increasing fluency and consistency.
 
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Rafateria said:
That isn't the question you should be asking yourself. If you have a big enough, powerful enough, squad and are, just as importantly, lucky with injuries (and increasingly influential issue today with the number of games being played and extra kms being run, that was partly responsible for derailing both United and Liverpool last season) then you get away with it. However Chelsea will have a strong and powerful squad. The lack of midweek games for the greater part of the season is going to play a key part in keeping their team fit and increasing fluency and consistency.
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It's entirely relevant, the European factor is entirely overstated when it comes to the league. Decades of football tells us this, this trend isn't suddenly going to break this season, especially when EPL sides have more money and faciltiies than ever. United and Liverpool werent detailed because of European football, that was the least of their worries.
 
ivaldo said:
It's entirely relevant, the European factor is entirely overstated when it comes to the league. Decades of football tells us this, this trend isn't suddenly going to break this season, especially when EPL sides have more money and faciltiies than ever. United and Liverpool werent detailed because of European football, that was the least of their worries.
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‘I am sure it is a four-horse race now,’ said Mourinho, whose Chelsea side top the table, with Liverpool four points behind in fourth. ‘They have a big advantage because they don’t play in the Champions League.’

Jose Mourinho - February 2014
 
humdinger said:
I'm always overly optimistic with these things. That being said I expect huge improvement from United this season but don't think we will win the league. I expect Chelsea to also dramatically improve and Leicester to slip back down the league:

1) City
2) United
3) Arsenal
4) Chelsea
5) Liverpool
6) Spurs
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this
 
Finn MacCool said:
‘I am sure it is a four-horse race now,’ said Mourinho, whose Chelsea side top the table, with Liverpool four points behind in fourth. ‘They have a big advantage because they don’t play in the Champions League.’

Jose Mourinho - February 2014
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Finn MacCool said:
‘I am sure it is a four-horse race now,’ said Mourinho, whose Chelsea side top the table, with Liverpool four points behind in fourth. ‘They have a big advantage because they don’t play in the Champions League.’

Jose Mourinho - February 2014
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What point are you trying to make exactly?
 
1) United
2) Spurs
3) Arsenal
4) Liverpool
5) Chelsea
6) man city

  • United to be strong in defence plus de gea will not concede many, hopefully we can steal more goals than last year, I think us and the competition with new managers are still slightly over rated.
  • Spurs looked the best team in the league at times last year, settled first 11, depends on how long they stay in the cups because their squad isn't very deep, I expect them to challenge again with Poch there.
  • Arsenal are arsenal, steady, not going to win it, will be in top four mix.
  • Liverpool don't seem to be getting any high profile players in but I think klopp, already having a year to settle will do a good job in the league.
  • Chelsea looked dire last year, Conte will be defensive and not sure they will get too many goals, has to get used to the league also.
  • I'm not sure if I'm hoping or convinced that pep is going to bomb at city, very reliant on de Bruyne, everyone else ageing, again has to get used to the league.

I also expect Everton and west ham to be in and around the 5th, 6th place fight.
 
1. United
2. City
3. Arsenal
4. Chelsea
5. Tottenham
6. Liverpool

I would have had Tottenham ahead of Chelsa until the Kante signing.
 
1. City
2. Arsenal
3. United
4. Chelsea
5. Liverpool
6. Tottenham

As things stand currently. Going for the safe choices, so most likely wrong.
 
ivaldo said:
It's entirely relevant, the European factor is entirely overstated when it comes to the league. Decades of football tells us this, this trend isn't suddenly going to break this season, especially when EPL sides have more money and faciltiies than ever. United and Liverpool werent detailed because of European football, that was the least of their worries.
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Ha ha sure. Disregard it because it doesn't suit your rhetoric. It seems most fans, managers and players are in complete disagreement with you though (to say nothing of simple logic). And you need to re-read the post again - you are completely muddled with what I wrote about derailment.
 
1. City
2. United
3. Chelsea
4. Liverpool
5. Arsenal
6. Tottenham

Pep's gonna continue as usual, we will for the first time since Fergie left be a contender, Chelsea will be back to normal and Klopp will sort Liverpool out so much, that they'll finish in the top 4, while Arsenal for the first time since 1996 will finish outside the top 4 in what will be Wenger's last season. The rest of the league will be:

7. Everton
8. West Ham
9. Southampton
10. Leicester
11. Middlesbrough
12. Watford
13. Stoke
14. West Brom
15. Swansea
16. Sunderland
17. Crystal Palace
18. Bournemouth
19. Hull
20. Burnley
 
Hard to argue with that league table, it's how common sense would have it finish, I slightly disagree with the top four/six , plus you have high hopes for Middlesbrough :) I personally think all the promoted teams will go back down
 
Zlatan 7 said:
Hard to argue with that league table, it's how common sense would have it finish, I slightly disagree with the top four/six , plus you have high hopes for Middlesbrough :) I personally think all the promoted teams will go back down
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I think people expect that often.
 
Rafateria said:
Ha ha sure. Disregard it because it doesn't suit your rhetoric. It seems most fans, managers and players are in complete disagreement with you though (to say nothing of simple logic). And you need to re-read the post again - you are completely muddled with what I wrote about derailment.
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Yet you're happy to disregard cold, hard fachts? Its fairly simple, I'll ask it again, how many teams in the PL era have gone on to win the league without playing European football? At no point did I say it doesn't have some relevance, but it is entirely overstated, and that has been proven again and again.
 
Tottenham have a decent squad who had a very good year last season. I think they will be found out this season for the mediocre team that they are. I'll be very surprised if they finish top 5.
 
Mark_Barca said:
People having City 6th and below! :lol:
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Why so funny? They were fourth last year, could have been fifth if it wasn't for us being so shit. team is ageing, new manager.
Guess you think pep is a miracle worker? And won't struggling to adapt to having a far from as good squad as he's used to and the difference in the premier league.
 
City
United
Chelsea
Arsenal
Liverpool
Spurs

Any of top 3 could win it depending on injuries, fixture pile - ups etc.
Those who cite Pep's inexperience in PL may have a shock coming. He prepares meticulously and has an excellent team of analysts working with him.
Are the PL ready for him maybe the more pertinent question.
 
ivaldo said:
Yet you're happy to disregard cold, hard fachts? Its fairly simple, I'll ask it again, how many teams in the PL era have gone on to win the league without playing European football? At no point did I say it doesn't have some relevance, but it is entirely overstated, and that has been proven again and again.
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You are quite simply ignoring the changes in football over the past few seasons (money, deeper squads and more competitive league). Last season was an anomaly as far as Chelsea are concerned, if you can not admit that then the debate needs to end here. However if you do accept there is a modicum of truth in that then the fact that a Top 4 side now has no Euro competition, yet still has an exceptionally strong squad, and with a massive transfer kitty to add to it over the next two months, means your simple defence of "how many teams . blah blah" is totally irrelevant. History is no indicator of future performance. Records and myths are destroyed year after year.
 
1. United
2. Liverpool
3. Tottenham
4. Arsenal
5. City
6. Chelsea
 
Zlatan 7 said:
Why so funny? They were fourth last year, could have been fifth if it wasn't for us being so shit. team is ageing, new manager.
Guess you think pep is a miracle worker? And won't struggling to adapt to having a far from as good squad as he's used to and the difference in the premier league.
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They still have one of the best squads in the league and one(if not the) best manager in world football.

Made two good signings in Nolito and Gundogan and looking likely to bring in Sane/Bonucci. Just needs to improve the goalkeeper and full back positions and he's good to go for the league title. Should improve the likes of Nasri, Sterling, Otamendi and Iheanancho
 
Mark_Barca said:
They still have one of the best squads in the league and one(if not the) best manager in world football.

Made two good signings in Nolito and Gundogan and looking likely to bring in Sane/Bonucci. Just needs to improve the goalkeeper and full back positions and he's good to go for the league title. Should improve the likes of Nasri, Sterling, Otamendi and Iheanancho
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Iheanancho is going to be a top striker and is probably already good enough to be #2 or more likely #3 in the striking dept. I though there was already chatter of someone to replace/challenge Hart ?
 
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