The common denominator with those tables is that Arsenal were 1th after both New Years yet managed to fail challenging for the title by season end 
Top 4 race 2016/17
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Got you beating Arsenal and Chelsea at home with a draw to Spurs.
Since Juanfield probably.
If you beat us that is. However if we were to win then you are back to eight points behind us. I don't think this is a must win for either of us, more of a must not lose game. Also the gap between us is 5 points same as the gap between Liverpool and Chelsea. Impossible to predict anything even more so when the European games start back up.
I think anything but a win for us will kill off any title ambitions, but I agree, it's not a must win in terms of top 4, getting through it unbeaten would probably be reasonably satisfactory for both teams. I just hope the game isn't decided by bad refereeing decisions.
Eish just realised that there is a long way to go indeed looking at that table; it ended City, Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs. It shows that its way too early to be drawing any conclusions and there is still a lot to fight for.
Didn't know Spurs finally finished a season above us
No team over the past 17 seasons has won the league if not in the top two at the end of January - and then it has only happened twice that the team in second overtook the leader. And even then the difference was a maximum of 6 pts.
I think I read that when there are no games-in-hand to skew things the biggest points total to be closed inside the final 9 games is 5 points. So once you hit 29 games you really need to be insight of the top team.
Yep. Need to be even closer then ! It's a shocking stat.
If we can beat WBA at WHL in the next round of league fixtures, then a draw or United win at Anfield will see Spurs climb into 2nd place.
We play Liverpool at home
Even better.
I think Utd are heavy favs for me to which vs pool. Should easily beat those scousers.
Easily?
Yep everybody is easily beating Liverpool these days.
In fact when was the last time Liverpool were easily beaten?
Look at the match circumstances. United are at home and in form. Plus Jose is the perfect antidote for Klopp footbll game. I think United are definitely winning it.
United might well win, personally I think it's a 50/50 game and would bet against either team winning it easily.
I can say without a doubt that Liverpool are the best side we've played this season, although we got a point they were much better than us on the day.
Was listening to talk sport earlier. Andy Jacob's and Adrian Durham have tipped utd for the league and think 16-1 is a great odd, If only utd did become champions haha. Anyway back to reality and god knows who will finish in the top 4
You've had a run of generally easy fixtures to be fair. Spurs are the only top 6 side you've faced in many fixtures, so I wouldn't read too much into "in form".
Agree united are favourites, dont think itll be easy for you though, no side has had an easy ride against us this season. It'll be our first league game without Mane and im not entirely sure how we'll cope just yet.
Tbh we haven't been playing that great lately. We have been grinding out results which is not a bad thing, but I don't think we have looked as fluid. Maybe it has had something to do with Coutinho being out but he should be back by then along with Henderson and Matip. Also I don't think we will miss Mane as much as some people seem to think
He supports Chelsea
7 wins in a row and 13 unbeaten is in form however you slice it. Form isn't dictated by the odd game against Chelsea/City/Arsenal.
I'm obviously glad that you're in a slight dip of form even though in the main the results don't reflect it.
I actually like the look of this Liverpool side, no superstars, no huge names just a well drilled, functioning team who has goals in it from many positions. I like Klopps thinking and I think his approach is similar to Pochettino's in that he's not interested in star names etc but looks to bring in players who will suit the system or systems that he wants to play, rather than get the star players and then build around them.
Maybe at the end of the day that lack of a 'star man' so to speak might undo both Liverpool and Spurs, it will be interesting to see.
Shouldn't matter. What @GlastonSpur said still stands - I wouldn't read much into our "current form" either. Yes, we've strung up a few wins, yes the confidence is high but to call ourselves "outright favorites" on the basis of these victories comes across as slightly arrogant.
The only bit I see wrong with @GlastonSpur 's post is that he said "you've" to a Chelsea fan and if that's what you're pointing out, then I think you're nitpicking a little
I was just saying that Hemil is a Chelsea fanShouldn't matter. What @GlastonSpur said still stands - I wouldn't read much into our "current form" either. Yes, we've strung up a few wins, yes the confidence is high but to call ourselves "outright favorites" on the basis of these victories comes across as slightly arrogant.
The only bit I see wrong with @GlastonSpur 's post is that he said "you've" to a Chelsea fan and if that's what you're pointing out, then I think you're nitpicking a little
Is he?
Klopp's record vs Mourinho is won 3, drawn 2 and lost 1. Including 4-1 and 3-1 wins.
I think Mkhi, Pogba and Zlatan can be kryptonite to Liverpool's press for a variety of reasons. Liverpool have threats of their own but at home, with those three looking to be in good form, right now and hopefully suitably rested, I am semi-confident that we can get a positive result.
I'm picturing Pogba on the ball with 10 Liverpool players pressing him shouting "hold the doooor"
I agree. I just wouldn't read too much into to it, considering the general difficulty of the many of fixtures concerned.
I am convinced we will not lose.
Why isn't everybody in the top 6 doing it then?
Every game in the Premier League is difficult
Because some of them have had more difficult fixtures than United.
Spurs, for example, in the last 10 games have played Chelski twice, Arsenal away, United away and S'Hampton away.
Remove the fixtures v top 6 and Spurs still haven't won 7 in a row v the 'easier' sides
Gonna be probably a dull game again. If United lost it would be a blow to their top 4 chances, while you might start losing some of your certainties.
"In a row" sequences sometimes count for not all that much ... as is the case with United, who remain in 6th place despite it all. Besides, any particular club might lose or draw one fixture in the middle of a winning run of 3 either side, which limits their sequential victories to just 3 but still give them a bucket load of points.
The bottom line is that United have had a run of generally easier fixtures compared to some of the other top 6. And so citing your string of sequential victories doesn't mean all that much going into a game against Liverpool.
I generally agree that it's been a forgiving run of fixtures, and this is why the Liverpool game is so important. Win, and that will be a 7 in a row, including wins against both Spurs and Liverpool.
Its not just the wins though. Its 1 defeat in 15 odd league games that includes every side from the top 8 bar Man City. It's posters on here getting ridiculed when we claimed we were playing well despite the last min draws and we would improve as the season went on.
Yes the winning run is impressive. Its simply not easy to win games in this league
Fixtures the clubs above us had already had. Does that mean teams should've been ignoring everybody else's form?