Top 4 (let's hope top 5) race

I see at least six better team, maybe seven. Zero chance to reach top 5. We're just as bad as we were under ten Hag. Same shit, different smell.
 
Just two consecutive losses at home is the difference between where we stand tonight stuck in 13th and where we would have been if we had beaten Forest and Bournemouth...5th place.

That's right. we'd be in 5th place tonight, but for 2 embarrassing home defeats.


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Just two consecutive losses at home is the difference between where we stand tonight stuck in 13th and where we would have been if we had beaten Forest and Bournemouth...5th place.

That's right. we'd be in 5th place tonight, but for 2 embarrassing home defeats.


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On 28 points, which would have been equal to Forest in 4th too.

Edit: in fact if you take away the -4 goal difference from those two defeats and turn them into a +2 for two wins, we would be in 4th...
 
Just two consecutive losses at home is the difference between where we stand tonight stuck in 13th and where we would have been if we had beaten Forest and Bournemouth...5th place.

That's right. we'd be in 5th place tonight, but for 2 embarrassing home defeats.


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This is what i noticed too. Unbelievable really i so annoying. Especially because our both home defeats were against teams which nearly were relegated last season.
 
Theories after theories... If we could have won against this and that then we would be in 4th or 5th place whatever and so on. And all this after an embarrassing defeat again. Just a waste of time. I was wondering about the form of the teams in the 4th and 5th place. Let's see. 4th: Forest: W,L,W,W,W. 5th: Bournemouth: W,W,W,D,W. Ours: W,L,L,W,L. Even the 9th place Fulham is unbeaten in their last 5 matches. Before the start of this season i predicted 7th place finish. Apparently i was too optimistic.
 
13th or 14th just above relegation we finish 50 to 54 pts max. Could even be lower imo.
Amorin is using the league like a pre season for him , I think he's using the whole season to find out what we got. If we get 10th be a great achievement.
 
Spreadex are currently quoting us to finish on 56pts which could see us finish anywhere between 6th-11th depending if we better or drop below that quote by 2-3 points.
I think 56 is way too optimistic. Comparing like-for-like results with last season, replacing the relegated teams with the promoted teams, then we are currently 7pts worse off.
The trouble is we've got a run of games coming up over Xmas where we picked up quite a few points and I'm struggling to see how we'll match those results. (Wolves 3, Newcastle 3, Liverpool 1).
So, after the Liverpool game we could be a lot worse off compared to last season.

Hopefully, there are re-inforcements coming in January and RA will have some players who will suit his system better.
Maybe, it's going to be 1 out then 1 in. In which case, we''l see who it was that did such a good job in summer in moving all those players on - Ashworth or Wilcox?
 
Wow, pessimism here.
We are finishing 5th or in worst case scenario 6th. I have no doubts. For that we have enough quality.