Imagine being a football fan, watch us regularly and think our attack is good enough for top 5.
Top 4 (let's hope top 5) race
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran discuss a horrific month of December and a depressing FOUR defeats in a row - the latest coming against Wolves and Newcastle.
They discuss how much blame is on Ruben Amorim and rank our squad against other Premier League teams.
Do we have any chance of avoiding defeat at Anfield?
Insightful.
Those are shit odds. We haven't a hope of finishing in the top 4.
You are a very funny guy.
Ok. Race for winning Europa league then?
You should be looking below us, not up.
We'll make history by being the first Championship team in the Champions League
You can quote me back whenever you want. Pound for pound this squad is still not worse than Villa or Newcastle.
Football is not black and white. Your view of the sport is way too simplified.
It is much worse. We are not even close. Your view is very simplified.
Which team could you possibly be referring to? Surely not United?!?!Opta has us at a 1.8% chance at top 4 and a 4.6% chance at top 5, see source (prior to the Newcastle game). Your view that others are being "pessimistic" has no basis in reality. We're much, much more likely to finish in the bottom half than the top 5.
I think I’d be fascinated to see your combined XI.
Edit: Feel free to make it 4-3-3 as MUFC don’t really have players suited to 3-4-3, yet.
Yeah, i agree. I just couldn't believe after Amorim's first 3 games that things will go to shit like this.
Opta has us at a 1.8% chance at top 4 and a 4.6% chance at top 5, see source (prior to the Newcastle game). Your view that others are being "pessimistic" has no basis in reality. We're much, much more likely to finish in the bottom half than the top 5.
But i still believe that we are winning EL.
What exactly does tonight's game prove for you?
De Ligt isn't a wide defender. Neither is Martínez.
Eriksen and Casemiro are both washed.
We can't progress the ball to Hojlund or Zirkzee.
Dalot is an all-rounder full-back suited to a back 4. Mazraoui similar, but he can do the wide defender role in a back 3 to an acceptable standard.
It's all about platforming issues, pressing issues, and build-up issues. Tonight's game hasn't proven anything about any player in isolation not being as good as the Newcastle/Villa players in the same positions.
From our starting 11 tonight, which players are suitable to the role Amorim wants in the position he's put them in? GK Onana, CCB Maguire, one of the #10s in Amad, #9 Hojlund. 4 players out of 11 fit their specific roles for in their positions. That's the biggest issue, not the players themselves.
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Newcastle's top 5 non-defenders: Isak, Gordon, Guimeraes, Joelinton, Tonali.
Villa's top 5 non-defenders: Watkins, Duran, Rogers, Bailey, Kamara.
Who do we have in midfield and attack to compare to those two groups? Bruno, but then I'm coming up pretty blank. Ugarte, Amad.... maybe Rashford? Our team is pretty bleak.
The players were also crap before Amorim started his experiment.