Too early to be getting worried?

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I'm not worried but things obviously aren't going to plan, everything that came out towards the back end of the season stated that we wanted our business done before pre-season, we've got less than a month and only Memphis is in and he signed in May, this summer it's clear we need a CB, RB, DM, Striker and if/when De Gea goes, a GK. It's concerning that we'd have to potentially get 5 players in within the next month to meet that target (obviously business doesn't have to be specifically done before we go on tour but it'll make things a lot easier if we have those players in for a full pre-season), even with excuses like the Copa America, the only players we've been heavily linked to there are Firmino and Otamendi, so you'd think even if we were holding off until the end for them that we'd still be doing something else, it probably makes it more difficult with the fact that nobody has any idea who we're really interested in, which creates that element of panic.

Teams like City, Arsenal and Chelsea have settled sides, they're not going to be overhauling there squad this summer so it doesn't really matter too much if they hold out on players and even then, Chelsea have basically signed Falcao, City will more than likely get Sterling and Arsenal seem to be on the verge of getting Cech, so it's not like other teams aren't doing anything. With regards too us it's much more important for us to get our business done early, especially given our first 6 fixtures aren't the easiest. We're starting earlier this year and we don't want to end up in the same position as we were last August. Obviously there's ages to go yet so it isn't panic stations but I definitely thought we'd hear a bit more on players or we'd have got a couple of deals over the line by now, especially when out of the Top 4 it's most important that we have the players in early given that most of our signings will be starters and we're going to have to contend with Champions league qualification early on in the season.

We're not heavily linked to many players because we aren't briefing to the media anymore. A month is a long time in this world. When players are ready and available to sign then that will happen, and it will happen quickly, without much storm in the British media.
 
Lackeys are no good. You need to recruit flunkies or minions. Best of all - graduate students.

Yes yes yes, grad students would be ideal. We could call it an internship, that'd reel those naive youngsters in.
 
To put in context has any other club made a high cost signing? Madrid got Danilo and we got Memphis before the season ended but aside from that there hasn't actually been much big transfers has there?


What about James Milner :smirk:
 
I'm not worried but things obviously aren't going to plan, everything that came out towards the back end of the season stated that we wanted our business done before pre-season, we've got less than a month and only Memphis is in and he signed in May, this summer it's clear we need a CB, RB, DM, Striker and if/when De Gea goes, a GK. It's concerning that we'd have to potentially get 5 players in within the next month to meet that target (obviously business doesn't have to be specifically done before we go on tour but it'll make things a lot easier if we have those players in for a full pre-season), even with excuses like the Copa America, the only players we've been heavily linked to there are Firmino and Otamendi, so you'd think even if we were holding off until the end for them that we'd still be doing something else, it probably makes it more difficult with the fact that nobody has any idea who we're really interested in, which creates that element of panic.

Teams like City, Arsenal and Chelsea have settled sides, they're not going to be overhauling there squad this summer so it doesn't really matter too much if they hold out on players and even then, Chelsea have basically signed Falcao, City will more than likely get Sterling and Arsenal seem to be on the verge of getting Cech, so it's not like other teams aren't doing anything. With regards too us it's much more important for us to get our business done early, especially given our first 6 fixtures aren't the easiest. We're starting earlier this year and we don't want to end up in the same position as we were last August. Obviously there's ages to go yet so it isn't panic stations but I definitely thought we'd hear a bit more on players or we'd have got a couple of deals over the line by now, especially when out of the Top 4 it's most important that we have the players in early given that most of our signings will be starters and we're going to have to contend with Champions league qualification early on in the season.

That's not obvious at all. Pre-season is a month away.

This is pretty much the first summer where I don't really bother to obsess about transfers because it is clear that the club is serious about getting back to where it should be and that Woodward/van Gaal will get some proper business done sooner rather than later.
 
I thought at least after all the Euro qualifiers were done, we would finalize Schneiderlin.. Maybe he is not our first choice as many have suggested here.. But I would like to see us sign him as he is proven PL player and the right age group.. If the manager wants Schweinsteiger, I trust his judgement, but it would be a short term fix but definitely a world class one.. If we are looking for a Carrick replacement, we could do better than Bastian as he has been injury prone the last few seasons.. Schneiderlin would fit the bill nicely..

If Otamendi is our first choice CB, I can understand the delay due to Copa America and Valencia's stand of selling not less than his release clause(According to papers).

I am not yet in panic mode, but I would prefer the bulk of our signings done before the players come back to training.. It is absolutely imperitive that most of our squad gets a full preseason and hit the ground running as the season starts..

I am a little worried that Woody might go for marquee signings to justify the Adidas deal money and to show we can sign players from the top shelf.. Although I admire the thought process of seeing big name players turn up for United, I would rather see the needs of the team addressed and get the players who fit the system, rather than find the system based on players..

If we sign the RB, CB and No.6 before pre season, then we can wait it out for that marquee signing even later in the window..

As I said.. Not in panic mode.. Yet.

Whats the harm in buying both SwineTiger and Scheniderlin??
 
Whats the harm in buying both SwineTiger and Scheniderlin??

Absolutely nothing wrong.. I am all for it..

But since we dont know what the manager's plan is in terms of personnel targets and we are going purely by what the papers are saying, we can't even be sure if these two are our targets..

From having a CM option of Carrick, Cleverley, Anderson and Scholes a few seasons back, a midfield of Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, Carrick, Herrera, Blind and Fellaini is definitely an outstanding upgrade..

Maybe LvG has someone else in mind in terms of another CM and we are targeting one of Schweinsteiger or Schneiderlin?!

Honestly I have no clue.. I just hope we get the players required in before pre season starts.. In terms of who should come in, I'll trust the manager's judgement for he knows more about the game than I could possibly understand in my lifetime..
 
I agree with those who suggest that things may not be going to plan. Getting linked to big names and players LVG has coached in the past. Not too keen on the Schweinsteiger links either tbh. It's a very short term signing. The fact that it could well be a straight choice between him and Schneiderlin is a bit disappointing.

But then again I could be knee jerking all over the shop. Problem is, with United you wouldn't be surprised if they made a balls of a transfer window.
 
I know it's probably a bullshit story with next to no chance of happening but the links to Ramos have actually made me slightly more worried about this transfer window than I was before....
 
Only thing that is clear is united are keeping things more under wraps than in the past. If we recall last summer most deals happened without a hint, bar perhaps Blind - and you could see why that might just have been decent guesswork by the media.

Compared to other teams, the media have been feeding on scraps for united, like 'louis likes lacazette' and then its louis saha. Nothing concrete at all.

Lets wait and see if we get to preseason without bringing the players in
 
Only thing that is clear is united are keeping things more under wraps than in the past. If we recall last summer most deals happened without a hint, bar perhaps Blind - and you could see why that might just have been decent guesswork by the media.

Compared to other teams, the media have been feeding on scraps for united, like 'louis likes lacazette' and then its louis saha. Nothing concrete at all.

Lets wait and see if we get to preseason without bringing the players in

It was, the deal was completed within a few days. Neither Ajax or Blind had heard anything before that. The club is keeping the deals very secrative, the club only enquired about Memphis once and kept silent untill we swooped in to sign him. The media have to write their things so they're just linking us to everybody dead and alive even though they have no clue.

I'm not worried at all.
 
Only thing that is clear is united are keeping things more under wraps than in the past. If we recall last summer most deals happened without a hint, bar perhaps Blind - and you could see why that might just have been decent guesswork by the media.

Compared to other teams, the media have been feeding on scraps for united, like 'louis likes lacazette' and then its louis saha. Nothing concrete at all.

Lets wait and see if we get to preseason without bringing the players in

True, lack of public movement could be a sign of competence rather than anything else.

We'll have a better idea once pre-season starts given that we were quite firm about wanting business done early. If nothing happens by then we'll actually know for sure that things haven't gone according to plan.
 
True, lack of public movement could be a sign of competence rather than anything else.

We'll have a better idea once pre-season starts given that we were quite firm about wanting business done early. If nothing happens by then we'll actually know for sure that things haven't gone according to plan.
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I reckon people should lower their expectations of getting our business done early this summer given our targets might be players like Schweinstiger and Ramos.
 
Too early to be "worried", sure. I think people are worrying more because there hasn't been anything concrete. Every few days we get told we're either close to signing a player or interested in another player. I don't think it's a case of us being knocked back numerous times but more a case of the media not having a clue who we're after. This week last year was the week we announced Shaw and Herrera, we don't look close to announcing anyone currently. Not sure that means much though because as we saw last year, these things can be done in a matter of days; especially when we seem more happy than ever to pay over the going rate, the agent fees and offer more money than other clubs.

There have been briefings by the club about Kane, Schweinsteiger and Ramos in recent weeks and days. That would improve the spine of our first XI considerably.
 
I doubt there ha been briefings of any sort, the only one to say anything was Rooney liking Kane. Nothing to do with the club. Ramos is just using us to get a better contract as every Barca, Madrid and god knows how many fecking other clubs do and we just stay silent throughout.
 
The only reason I believe there has been briefings is because it's on the BBC. I remember their journalists talking about transfer windows and how the BBC can not and will not write an article unless they have a credible source. This can only really be one of the two clubs involved or player's agents. I find it doubtful that the agents of Ramos, Schweinsteiger and Kane have all spoken directly to the BBC, therefore I think it must have come from United themselves.

If it was anyone but the BBC I'd be cynical but the beeb wouldn't have posted it if the club had stayed silent when asked.
 
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I can fully imagine the agent speaking to the BBC journalists. I do believe they ( the players agents ) have spoken to United just a they would other clubs. In the end though they are after a better deal where they are. United have no need to dicuss it for the beeb to report it.
 
Too early to be "worried", sure. I think people are worrying more because there hasn't been anything concrete. Every few days we get told we're either close to signing a player or interested in another player. I don't think it's a case of us being knocked back numerous times but more a case of the media not having a clue who we're after. Not sure that means much though because as we saw last year, these things can be done in a matter of days; especially when we seem more happy than ever to pay over the going rate, the agent fees and offer more money than other clubs.

There have been briefings by the club about Kane, Schweinsteiger and Ramos in recent weeks and days. That would improve the spine of our first XI considerably.
Depay? In any case, I think we'll close a few deals over the next 2-3 weeks
 
20 days to start of preseason. :( Around 7 weeks until the new premier league season starts.
 
20 days to start of preseason. :( Around 7 weeks until the new premier league season starts.

Iv got a feeling we may start to hear things this week. We need the De Gea thing cleared up ASAP before we do anything though as it's like a bad cloud hanging over us at the moment.
 
I'm getting slightly worried now....we've asked for virtually the whole of the Real team (excluding Casillias) and been rejected on all accounts.

For a number of months we've been hearing that we have identified our targets and that we will do our business swiftly but it seems that this is not the case.
 
I'm getting slightly worried now....we've asked for virtually the whole of the Real team (excluding Casillias) and been rejected on all accounts.

For a number of months we've been hearing that we have identified our targets and that we will do our business swiftly but it seems that this is not the case.

I think most of the Madrid stuff is bollocks, or is just United trying their luck or trolling Madrid when they phone about De Gea. The Copa is still on, lots of players are still on holiday and the transfer window hasn't officially opened yet. I can't see any reason to even begin to start worrying yet. Our targets have been identified, of that I have no doubt, and I also think it will all be sorted very soon.

I think almost everything else that has been reported is rumours or complete bullshit. I think the only real target that we have missed out on so far is Alves, the rest are on holiday or playing in the Copa.
 
Most clubs haven't done anything in the transfer market yet. There's still a lot of time and at least the Memphis transfer is done. Getting a bunch of new players in before the start of pre-season might have been a pipe dream though.
 
I'm still not worried.

I'm just very bored of hearing the same recycled rumours. De Gea is obviously leaving but it's just being dragged on. Then the Gundogan/Schneiderlin/Schweinsteiger business is just being dragged on.
 
I'm not too worried. LvG isn't some clown who'll be unprepared going into the season. He knows where he has to strengthen and he'll have compiled a list of who he wants. We probably tried for Hummels, are going to see what's happening with Ramos and if all else fails we just buy Otamendi for his ridiculous release clause. When we needed to act quickly for Depay we did it. We probably don't get most of LvG's top choices, but we'll get what we need.
 
I'm getting slightly worried now....we've asked for virtually the whole of the Real team (excluding Casillias) and been rejected on all accounts.

For a number of months we've been hearing that we have identified our targets and that we will do our business swiftly but it seems that this is not the case.
So you believe every Rumour you read then
 
We're the ones playing catch up. Chelsea can go with their current squad and still be favorites to win the league.
You must be a joy for your parents at Christmas time.

So Chelsea is better than us what does that have to do with my question? There has been little if any action in the market yet and if the business done we probably have one of the biggest moved so far.

Really everyone except Barcelona is playing catch up to some one even Chelsea.

But sort of use to the young ones and wums this time of year.
 
I'm still not worried.

I'm just very bored of hearing the same recycled rumours. De Gea is obviously leaving but it's just being dragged on. Then the Gundogan/Schneiderlin/Schweinsteiger business is just being dragged on.
It does tend to drag out when you go for big names. Taking depay from PSV? Easy. Taking Ramos in a straight swap for de gea? Not so much.
 
It does tend to drag out when you go for big names. Taking depay from PSV? Easy. Taking Ramos in a straight swap for de gea? Not so much.

Chelsea with Costa and Fabregas last year is the way transfers should be done. Those are probably exceptions, though.
 
Good thing that the Depay transfer was done quickly. But now, I do not know who all we are looking at.

If the players who we need start rejecting us, then there is a problem. We should not settle down and over pay for players just for the sake of new signings.

The GK situation has me worried though. Don't rate Valdes to be a top keeper and with the De Gea situation prolonging, I foresee a problem.
 
Chelsea signed Costa 22 days later than today last year.
It was pretty much a done deal in May -- commentators were even announcing it during the CL final. Chelsea themselves announced it on July 1st.

*Had his medical on 4th of June.
 
Our transfer strategy, if you can even say we have one, is a shambles. We are wasting our time chasing big name foreign players who are, in all likelihood, just using the name Man Utd to get big fat new contracts.

Why aren't we going after the best and brightest up and coming talent, which has been our default strategy for the past decade? Why are we not going in for Iturraspe or someone like that? Players in their early to mid 20s, that could be the next big thing? We did it with Ander Herrera and it didn't turn out too badly. Considering our biggest buys failed to live up to expectations last year, why are we chasing FIFA style targets again?
 
Our transfer strategy, if you can even say we have one, is a shambles. We are wasting our time chasing big name foreign players who are, in all likelihood, just using the name Man Utd to get big fat new contracts.

Why aren't we going after the best and brightest up and coming talent, which has been our default strategy for the past decade? Why are we not going in for Iturraspe or someone like that? Players in their early to mid 20s, that could be the next big thing? We did it with Ander Herrera and it didn't turn out too badly. Considering our biggest buys failed to live up to expectations last year, why are we chasing FIFA style targets again?
We just signed Depay for feck sake.
 
Why aren't we going after the best and brightest up and coming talent, which has been our default strategy for the past decade? Why are we not going in for Iturraspe or someone like that? Players in their early to mid 20s, that could be the next big thing? We did it with Ander Herrera and it didn't turn out too badly. Considering our biggest buys failed to live up to expectations last year, why are we chasing FIFA style targets again?

Don't necessarily disagree, but this is kind of an overstatement. We had one big world-class permanent acquisition that failed to live up to expectations - and that was Di Maria. Falcao was on a loan deal, and the others were more up-and-coming type of players, so it isn't a diametrically opposed departure from our old policy. But then, is Di Maria as a stand-alone an appropriate sample size for us to be drawing conclusions, and turning down the chance to buy some of the best players around (this at a time when the squad is in a funk, and needs some experience) ?

Basing all of that on the back of one stunted season is a bit premature don't you think ? Does it have to be an either/ or policy, wouldn't a better approach be to have a healthy mix of the two ? That was something we tried to replicate last season with Shaw, Ander, Blind, Rojo to go with a superstar in Di Maria. And what if the likes of Irurraspe fail to live upto expectations ? He is by no means cheap either, €40 million would be a massive outlay.

We just signed Depay for feck sake.

Also, this. The one confirmed transfer for United this window was one the best young players around. A lot of the rest might be mere speculation.
 
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