People getting upset over the fact one player didn't want to uproot his family and decided to stay in London and another who wasn't apparently even a target of ours and we have plenty of players in his position anyway.
Too early to be getting worried?
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I'm not worried about another team signing players just interested to see what those think who feel the Copa America is a reason we havn't signed anyone yet.
I know only by the deadly silence that has come from the club since the end of the season. We have been working on signings since then an either we are keeping them under wraps or there seems a lack of progress. If the names we are linked with are true i.e Dani Alves, Ramos, Scwienstieger, Bale it appears we are going for players hoping money will tempt them. We used to sign players based on the fact they had a desire to play for us under Fergie which for me is far more important.
One player who is at the Copa has been signed. So what? One exception to the rule maybe? Also do we know how long Liverpool was working on the deal? Days? Weeks? Months?
So because you have no idea what is going on that means we are after players who have no desire to play for us. Ok then.
Same every summer. Just wait until we get te people who compare our signings to the combined signings of every other club in the world.
Liverpool chucked a huge amount of money on him as well and that meant Hoffenheim had no reason to stall and they let him go. Doesn't mean this is the case with every other transfer. If we threw, say 50m+ on each of our targets they'd have signed for us already as well.
Do you not think our signings will be unveiled on the 1st August in their shiny new ADIDAS kits?
Plenty of time but given the noises claiming we've been negotiating for players for 6 odd months so we'd get our business completed early, it's a little alarming.
I'd hope that we learned out lesson from the past few years where we haven't got players in before the pre-season tours, so they have several weeks to prepare for the season but it's obviously a complicated process.
A lot of misdirection and the press seemingly know nothing, so we either have no tranfer strategy or we're being very secretive with our dealings. Time will tell...
I'd hope that we learned out lesson from the past few years where we haven't got players in before the pre-season tours, so they have several weeks to prepare for the season but it's obviously a complicated process.
A lot of misdirection and the press seemingly know nothing, so we either have no tranfer strategy or we're being very secretive with our dealings. Time will tell...
Of course before it was no players are signed now it's oh well it's only one player doesn't mean anything. Anybody who thinks the Copa is the reason we havn't signed anybody yet is deluded.
Regardless of whether Liverpool have been working on it for months do you think we havn't been planning our transfers in the same way?
It's not hard to read between the lines. I'm going on the people we have been heavily linked with an normally there is no smoke without fire. If the names linked are true which would seem the case(again reading between the lines) none of these seem eager to join us.
Of course we are work liking on our targets whoever they may actually be. It is still early in the window yet. Some deals take longer than others, that is just reality (see DeGea to Real Madrid).
Lol every summer we are linked with between 100 and 200 players. Some of the heavily and more often than not the rumours are in fact smoke without fire. Live through a few more transfer windows and you will understand that.
heck just a week ago Liverpools latest signing was being reported as almost a done deal for us. Now it seems we never even made a move for him. So there be smoke without a fire.
The truth is neither you nor I know who we have or have not tried to sign and it is silly to pretend otherwise.
http://www.manutd.com/en/Fanzone/Ne...t-blogs-on-summer-transfer-rumours.aspx?ALNEW
But end of the day I am trying to teach impatient kids not to be impatient when they are in full I WANT IT NOW mode.
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Liverpool signing clyne for 12m will definitely send this thread into overdrive ha
Its not about being impatient.
Its about getting our business done early, so our team can work on gelling, in preparation for the start of next season.
In a few months, we need to hit the ground running and avoid the mistake of last year, when we unveiled many players on the last transfer day.
This caused us to lose ground to Chelsea and also saw us lose to MK Dons.
Getting business done early is the right way to go about things, if you want to succeed...just as Chelsea did last year with Fabregas. I think Costa came in July.
Its about getting our business done early, so our team can work on gelling, in preparation for the start of next season.
In a few months, we need to hit the ground running and avoid the mistake of last year, when we unveiled many players on the last transfer day.
This caused us to lose ground to Chelsea and also saw us lose to MK Dons.
Getting business done early is the right way to go about things, if you want to succeed...just as Chelsea did last year with Fabregas. I think Costa came in July.
It is certainly what LVG wants to do . But it is easier said than done.
Apart from Liverpool, none of the other big clubs have been that active. It's easy to sign players on frees, the better the player and the more he costs, the more complicated the deal will be. These deals take time.
especially when you flirt with targets like alves, ramos and schweinsteger.
Schneiderlin i hope we can just resolve.
For me that's exactly what it is. Im not worried but Im quite impatient.
As you say, there are good reasons to get the business done early, but we still can. Im just tired of waiting to know who we'll bring in.
Must say, If we do finally break the silence to sign Gaitan, this Forum will have some scenes 
De Gea to Madrid is slightly different as it is us that needs to get things done so we have a settled squad more so than Madrid who are clearly happy for it to drag on and try and get him cheap.
Listen I understand not everybody wants to believe rumours but if you have enough experience it is pretty easy to see the rumours that are bullshit and the ones that clearly have some truth behind them. I've been around since the days we were linked with Shearer and he went to Newcastle so i'm sure i've seen enough of them to be able to make a judgement.
It's nothing to do with "want it now mode", this summer is a huge summer for the club IMO. A few years ago we could rely on Fergie signing somebody even on deadline day and all would be fine. As we have seen with LVG players take a lot of time to get used to playing his way so we need to give them the best possible chance. He has specifically said he wants things done early to get a full pre season and we have to respect that and try and accommodate that. I have no doubt you will be one of the same people that forget what the manager has asked for and are telling us we would be better off with Brendon Rodgers in a few months if we are not living up to fans expectations come February.
We have catching up to do and this summer need to be more organised than other teams, get our business done early and see if the team can be ready to hit the ground running come the start of the season. We cannot expect that if we do not have a settled team for pre season as the manager has asked for. Yes it might not be easy but I for one assumed players would have been scouted based on their desire to play for the club and many of the deals would have been in place.
If nothing has happened come mid July, say July 20th to the 25th, then we should start getting a little concerned, especially if we are trying to sign players that are wasting our time
That would basically mean that our targets wouldn't be on tour with us, so yeah I'd say that's time to worry a bit.
The pattern of united's transfer business since 2008 has been appalling, the club seemed to have lost the knack of shrewd transfer signings and getting it done early, and when it has been done early, its been underwhelming business. Especially since 2013, we are just going for the wrong type of players, and not signing the right players that make each position stronger long term. This ramos business is going to be dragging on and on if we go down this road, and the club is not careful, we may not be sorting out the spine of the team, like a new keeper, a new CB and 2 CM players. My concern is? if we go down this road, we will have an ageing keeper coming back from injury, an injury prone defense, signing someone like ramos who is prone to error's, and not signed a carrick replacement, and we have signed bastian schweinsteiger, while we know he is top class, is 30 going on 31 picking up injurys, and with our current injury record it is a concern.
If our spine is?
Valdes - 33
ramos - 29
carrick - 34
Schweinsteiger - 30
rooney - 29
While many say well look at that experience and character of that, that does concern me, especially without a carrick replacement
I hate it when it takes this long for signings because when they do happen (2nd half of July or even August), the team's poor performances will be explained by the players being new, new system, time to settle in bla bla bla..
It's OK panic over. I'm going away for 3 days without computers or internet so guaranteed we'll have signed about 12 by the time I get back.
I really hope Ed isn't throwing all his eggs into the Ramos basket and is ready to sign another CB quickly. I have zero belief Ramos is doing anything other than getting a better deal at Madrid. It's also one of those deals that drags on because of the profile of the player.
It would be disappointing if we start training without a new holding CM and a new CB. Ideally a new RB would be ready, but it's a stretch to expect three players in this short space of time. We need the players up to speed and ready for that qualifier if we get a tough draw.
It would be disappointing if we start training without a new holding CM and a new CB. Ideally a new RB would be ready, but it's a stretch to expect three players in this short space of time. We need the players up to speed and ready for that qualifier if we get a tough draw.
Thread name should be changed to 'Too early to be getting frustrated'
Another week gone with no apparent progress. How long till pre-season starts?
#doingourbusinessearly
#doingourbusinessearly
Some in here, like me, are getting very frustrated. We can see that we are repeating the mistakes of the last 2 years, by doing business late.
For the record I don't believe we can win the title without a prolific goal scorer, so this has to be top of our list. We scored 3 goals in our last 6 games and I really hope we don't start the season with Rooney as our only established striker.
For the record I don't believe we can win the title without a prolific goal scorer, so this has to be top of our list. We scored 3 goals in our last 6 games and I really hope we don't start the season with Rooney as our only established striker.
I need shiny new players to watch against all the new barca signings when they play at Levi Stadium.
I'm not paying good money to watch the same old bastards I watched last season.
I'm not paying good money to watch the same old bastards I watched last season.
we tend to drag these things out...then suddenly a cluth of players
I think it's a bit complicated for the manager. We can't just sign our targets as if we're picking items from a shop. It's a bit like chess: "If A accepts we go for B but if A accepts and B rejects then A is not worth it and we must pursue C but C etc.. you get the point.
No apparent progress, which means absolutely nothing.
I'm sure the club expects signings to be made by now, we can only assume there has been some complications. The word before the end of season was two signings were in place (unless am mistaken). Players like Ramos were obviously not targets prior to season end. If we get him fine, if not Ok. I'm more interested in the players LVG and Ed had in plans before the transfer window open.
Yes, am concern (Not worried) at this point. I'm actually relaxed, even if the players come in late, the signings from last season will do miles better this season. They all understand LVG better, they know the League, LVG himself has now experienced the league. No worries on my end.
Yes, am concern (Not worried) at this point. I'm actually relaxed, even if the players come in late, the signings from last season will do miles better this season. They all understand LVG better, they know the League, LVG himself has now experienced the league. No worries on my end.
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Yeah thats what happened last year.
And as a result, we scored 2 points from our opening 3 league games, as we had too many late arrivals.
We simply cannot afford to do this again.
I say, get our business done early, so our players can have a full pre-season to learn our system, thus increasing our chances of hitting the ground running.
I see Schneiderlin wrapped up in the coming week, Ramos and Schweini the week after.
Fair point but this is surely a product of fan pressure? I don't think it is reasonable to expect this united side to challenge for the league next year vs that chelsea side, but if we need to do it then schweinsteiger and ramos are exactly the players we would need, not varane and granit xhaxa
I just think we got to be careful, falcao we were lucky not spending the money on him. Di Maria must get a second chance after spending the amount of money we did on him, with better players and system in place he could be massive for us
Arsenal have now improved with the signing of Cech. We really need to start to get a move on now..
If only it was just up to us.....
I agree with Schneiderlin (probably in the next 10 days).
Ramos - not sure if this guy will come or if he is merely using us to get a better contract at Madrid.
Schweinsteiger - this guy is definitely a Bayern man, through and through. I think it would be a miracle if he came to Utd.
Worried now. No exciting attacking players in the rumor mill. Rumors about guys nearing the end of their prime like Schweini and Ramos aren't exciting to me. These guys will help for a couple of years but offer no upside potential.
The problem of our last couple months of the season were in finishing. Our strike force looks aging/depleted. Falcao is gone, RvP appears to be past it due to injuries, Rooney is still capable but is a known quantity. That leaves our 2nd choice striker as Wilson? Unless we bring back Chicharito but again that has been tried before.
We need to get aggressive in the market and sign promising young attackers.
The problem of our last couple months of the season were in finishing. Our strike force looks aging/depleted. Falcao is gone, RvP appears to be past it due to injuries, Rooney is still capable but is a known quantity. That leaves our 2nd choice striker as Wilson? Unless we bring back Chicharito but again that has been tried before.
We need to get aggressive in the market and sign promising young attackers.
Take it easy. We already got Pereira who's the hottest shit in Brazil when it comes to attacking teenage talents right now, Schneiderlin is about to join, already signed Memphis who'll provide goals from the wings plus free kicks and of course full two months for further shopping.
So far we've been nothing but carefully adding missing elements with surgical precision. Both Memphis and Schneiderlin are exactly what we need. That should give solid foundation to think that further deals will be executed in that vein.
We still didn't saw United's full financial firepower on the market, so far what you see is just a warm up yet we still managed to spend wisely. Reported fee for Schneiderlin is a good price for such crucial midfield figure.
As for the striker we will have to wait few weeks longer because the club surely won't conform to just going for the fast deal and signing players like Benteke or Lukaku.
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