Tom Cleverley | 2014/15 Performances (on loan at Aston Villa)

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You don't have to go out of your way to prove he is bad, he is doing a fine enough job of it himself.
It's just the biggest echo in this thread though, some people are far too obsessed all because he didn't meet their need for a world class creative midfielder.
 
Criticism of his performances and abuse are surely different? I also don't think criticism of him is because he isn't 'great'. It's because he's playing some way below his actual ability level (which we have all seen). I was effusive in praise for the type of player Cleverley was, he just isn't showing anything near it atm.
If it was actual criticism of a performance, that's fine. Not just he is fecking shit, he is a coward etc. That doesn't go into much depth.
 
He has, he's their best ball winner which is a string added to his bow this season. And if he had won the ball quite as often in his United career he'd have been a far more useful player.

He hasnt made much of an impression on the ball, but thats not too surprising since he had a grossly inflated and over the top reputation for his passing. It was safe and reached a teammate most often, that doesn't make it good. Having said that he's one of their most accurate and creative passers this season - it just doesnt mean much because of the distinct lack of creativity coming out from the side that means 1.1 key passes a game is 2nd most for this team.

Overall he doesnt look out of place at Villa. This is probably his level just about mid table

Such a shame the whole business really. Still remember him in the Charity Shield making mugs out of City. Thought we really had one for the future.
 
If he went to Everton he'd be their 7th best central midfielder after McCarthy, Besic, Barry, Osman, Barkley and Gibson. Seems like an unlikely move even though the manager liked him in the past. He also played him wide.
 
So Villa fans cheered when he came off. And there is Ekeke saying he doesn't look out of place for them.

He's been awful.
 
He doesn't give a feck anymore. Won one Premier League medal more than Gerrard, been there, done that, got the t-shirt.

He's just not ambitious as we think he'll be. Doesn't mean he can't be a decent league player, someday...
 
who cares about him? He is nowhere near good enough for us, and maybe most premier league sides...
 
Its not like our captain "fantastic" has been much better than Cleverley in the midfield.. If anything Cleverley is a better passer. Im not saying that Cleverley is good tho. Both of them doesn't create much. Unless if its free kick or corners.

If it had been Cleverley instead of Rooney playing in Rooney form last few games everyone here would have criticizing him for playing bad but it seems many fans doesn't o the same about our captain.
 
Its not like our captain "fantastic" has been much better than Cleverley in the midfield.. If anything Cleverley is a better passer. Im not saying that Cleverley is good tho. Both of them doesn't create much. Unless if its free kick or corners.

If it had been Cleverley instead of Rooney playing in Rooney form last few games everyone here would have criticizing him for playing bad but it seems many fans doesn't o the same about our captain.

You must be blind or something.

Nearly everyone on the forum has been saying Rooney isn't a midfielder and should swap with Di Maria.
 
Nail on the head, lost motivation after he started making big money.
I mean, he didn't even invited Keano for tea. Got the haircut almost like Beckham, though.

He was that close to being United player for years. Had some good moments, too... gotta admit that.
 
You must be blind or something.

Nearly everyone on the forum has been saying Rooney isn't a midfielder and should swap with Di Maria.

I think I would choose Wilson and Persie/Falcao over Rooney as striker, At least for next games. No one should be undroppable!

Also there is still too many fans who wants to have him in there lineups instead of for example Mata and Herrera/Fellaini.
 
I mean, he didn't even invited Keano for tea. Got the haircut almost like Beckham, though.

He was that close to being United player for years. Had some good moments, too... gotta admit that.

He had good moments, and could have been a good player if he concentrated on the football. Remember when he launched his own brand and website etc? Was wearing poncy clothes like Becks also. At least Becks had made it on the football pitch before he started acting like a tit off it.
 
He had good moments, and could have been a good player if he concentrated on the football. Remember when he launched his own brand and website etc? Was wearing poncy clothes like Becks also. At least Becks had made it on the football pitch before he started acting like a tit off it.
Indeed. He wanted to be cool and unfortunately became Vanilla Ice of Manchester United.
 
Indeed. He wanted to be cool and unfortunately became Vanilla Ice of Manchester United.

His website is gone. For sale now. Like him.
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Maybe Martinez would be good for him. Needs a manager who can get the best out of him.
 
He doesn't give a feck anymore. Won one Premier League medal more than Gerrard, been there, done that, got the t-shirt.

He's just not ambitious as we think he'll be. Doesn't mean he can't be a decent league player, someday...

He's not even one of Villa's best players. He'll never be a decent player, he's just shit
 
I was just reading his thread on the Villa forum. He's taking a battering, they don't want him on a permanent deal and apparently he was boo'd when his name was read out at a recent game.

Where would he go from here?
 
I was just reading his thread on the Villa forum. He's taking a battering, they don't want him on a permanent deal and apparently he was boo'd when his name was read out at a recent game.

Where would he go from here?

Maybe pitching his crappy TC23 line of clothing.

Seriously, the punk just threw away a promising football career and deserves to recede into oblivion. Had he had an ounce of heart he would have been a decent journeyman footballer.
 
Reminds me of kieran richardson. Thought he made it because he wore our t-shirt and lacked what was needed to take it to the next level.

I thought he looked good with Anderson as a 2 man midfield until he got injured against bolton. But looking back, that was only a few games (spurs, arsenal, City second half Community Shield, and beginning of Bolton). Oh and of course the leadup with Wigan where he built his confidence to be a positive player. Hasnt been positive since.
 
I can't see Everton still being interested, they have McCarthy, Besic, Barkley and Barry for the 2 CM roles in the system Martinez uses.
 
I can't see Everton still being interested, they have McCarthy, Besic, Barkley and Barry for the 2 CM roles in the system Martinez uses.
They probably need another fringe player but he won't play that much there. Didn't Martinez play him out wide at Wigan anyway?
 
I'm so delighted he's a part of the pathetic Aston Villa squad this year, such a cnut not agreeing to be sold at the summer forcing the club, which made him everything he is and more, lose money for him.
There aren't many players I genuinely hate and hope they're career will be fecked, Cleverley is definitely one of them. I hope he'll remain club less for the rest of his career
 
And to think certain people on here used to get grossly offended if anyone dare suggest that he's, well, not very good. I remember getting slaughtered when I said that McCarthy was a better player.
 
I'm so delighted he's a part of the pathetic Aston Villa squad this year, such a cnut not agreeing to be sold at the summer forcing the club, which made him everything he is and more, lose money for him.
There aren't many players I genuinely hate and hope they're career will be fecked, Cleverley is definitely one of them. I hope he'll remain club less for the rest of his career
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Jesus
 
Hard to believe we walked the league with this guy starting almost every game. Don't wanna be too mean, he's still one of our own and is probably a good guy,just a shit footballer
 
I'm so delighted he's a part of the pathetic Aston Villa squad this year, such a cnut not agreeing to be sold at the summer forcing the club, which made him everything he is and more, lose money for him.
There aren't many players I genuinely hate and hope they're career will be fecked, Cleverley is definitely one of them. I hope he'll remain club less for the rest of his career
wow.....
 
And to think certain people on here used to get grossly offended if anyone dare suggest that he's, well, not very good. I remember getting slaughtered when I said that McCarthy was a better player.

I said something similar about Anderson years ago and got battered by some, but that's the way it is with some posters. They defend everything United so fair play to them but it is a forum!!
 
Our fans can be so nasty.
It's as if people think he is playing poorly by choice. As if he isn't trying. He hasn't fulfilled his potential (for whatever reason) and I think it is a shame. I certainly had high hopes for him. Some of the things that he did well when he was here such as passing and moving, and always making himself available, he isn't even really doing much anymore and maybe it's a lack of confidence, but I don't for a second think he's playing this way because 'he thinks he's made it'.
 
I'm so delighted he's a part of the pathetic Aston Villa squad this year, such a cnut not agreeing to be sold at the summer forcing the club, which made him everything he is and more, lose money for him.
There aren't many players I genuinely hate and hope they're career will be fecked, Cleverley is definitely one of them. I hope he'll remain club less for the rest of his career

He's banging your bird, isn't he?
 
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