Tom Cleverley | 2014/15 Performances (on loan at Aston Villa)

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Aye sadly was pretty bad today, think his time is up tbh, surely one of the academy lads would be better taking his place now, personally i'd go for Pearson.

Maybe a cheeky £5 million + Cleverley bid for McCarthy is the way to go.
 
To be fair, it did not help him that Fletcher was absolutely non-existent today and Januzaj is no central midfielder! Although doesn't take away from the fact that he was dire today as was much of the team.
 
Right I'm officially done with him now. He was shocking. I couldn't even say that was just an average performance. That was just atrocious. This guy is starting for us. What the feck is wrong with us?!

He offers us nothing. No pace. No creativity. No drive. No steel. No goals. Nothing.

I want him gone. I don't care how spoilt this sounds, but there's at least 100 midfielders I could probably name ahead of him.

Edit: Fletcher was just as bad. But at least he can offer something. Today he was just atrocious. Cleverley is consistent at giving us nothing.
 
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How times change.
 
He's not United standard. Didn't help that Fletcher was somehow even worse because Cleverley needs someone telling him where to stand and what to do. It worked when Carrick was playing well a few seasons but he's regressed and wouldn't stand out in a lower standard team.

Today I could tell exactly what pass he was going to do before he did it and like Fletcher, he gave it away so often it was hard to watch. I imagine van Gaal put him in by default this afternoon, but Kagawa should be playing ahead of him even though he's more suited to the 10 role.
 
I just remembered that Roy Keane is now assistant at Aston Villa. If I was a very despicable of a character as the manager, I would find a way to send Cleverley in Villa to meet his worst nightmare and have his life becoming a living hell. What do you say?
 
Anyone care to help with creating a two-paged brochure for him to sell him to the Spanish clubs?

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/sell-a-player-with-a-michael-owen-style-brochure.255357/

Tom feckin Cleverley - Brilliance and consistency personified. A terrific marketable quantity with a heck of a footballing brain. Screw James Rodriguez, this guy is the ONE.

''TC23® is not just a brand. It is not just a solution. It is an opportunity. It is an adventure. It is the shining path to the glittering future, a future than can be yours at this so-reasonable-it's-nonsensical price. This is your chance, ladies and gentlemen, to be part of a better world. A fresh destiny, unfettered by the choking, leaden weight of the past. You, and TC23®, together. Forever.'' - Football365

''There are only a few players in this country who have had the sort of education where they look as if they could have been brought up in Holland, Spain or France" -Martinez

''He, to my mind, is probably the best midfield player in Britain, potentially. He has fantastic promise'' -Ferguson


Brand Values

-Owner of the proud (now defunct) TC23 brand
-Lovechild of Beckham and Scholes
-True Spanish midfield maestro
-Better than Fletcher
-Engine of United's fabled legendary midfield
-Heir to Xavi
-LVG's type of player
-Part-time footballing teacher at La Masia
-Next gen player
-Up and coming youngster with potential
-Comes with a free Anderson
 
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Did OK today. Provided more urgency than any of our other midfielders have managed outside of Herrera in the games to date. He's never going to be a world beater but he's decent as long as he picks up the tempo.
 
TwoSheds said:
Did OK today. Provided more urgency than any of our other midfielders have managed outside of Herrera in the games to date. He's never going to be a world beater but he's decent as long as he picks up the tempo.
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No he didn't do ok today.
 
Did ok? Couldn't even complete a 10 yard square pass if his life depended on it. Him and Fletcher make Djemba-Djemba and Kleberson look like Iniesta and Xavi.
 
It's always nice to see homegrown lads make it at United, but much like a guy like Gibson he just doesn't cut it. Gibson could shoot a bit, but didn't offer much else. Tom can pass and move a bit on his day, but not even all that great. It's time for him to leave.

The way he presents himself in interviews doesn't make things easier for him with the fans either.
 
I actually thought he played with a bit more conviction and bottle today. There were certainly more forward passes than before.

Obviously that was still way way too less compared to what's actually needed at this club.
 
There's no point me criticizing him anymore cause I'm gone beyond the point

I know he's a local lad and everything but he's stealing a living playing for the club
 
Like Young I can't imagine anyone being crazy enough to take him off our hands.
 
I wondered if it was 'just' loss of confidence that was making him perform badly last year.

It didn't look like it today. Awful performance from him and Fletcher, though they weren't alone.

If we want a fee for him, he has to leave in the next eight days as his contract is up next year. I hope we're not offering him a new one.

We need to be ruthless now. Sentimentality or keeping very average players will not get us back to the top.
 
God he was fecking dreadful today, he really offers nothing. It was a right circus with him and Fletcher in the first half. He can only kick the ball a certain way, he never puts his foot through it or uses the outside of his foot. It's sad that Tom hasn't progressed but he's not good enough for United. It's as simple as this, if we don't buy a center midfielder we will struggle to get top 4. I really rate Herrera and still think Carrick is good but the rest are painfully average. I think Fletch is a sub for a big game and nothing more, it's sad. We have a lot injured and I'm convinced things will get better. It's a huge week for Manchester United in the transfer window. I really hope Herrera is back soon, he was missed today. It's not an over reaction, we have been weak for sometime in his position. That position dictates the tempo of our play. The ball distribution is key for the wings and overall control of the game. When you have so much class up front it's sad to see it starved because of a poor midfield. Time to move on Tom, best for everyone involved.
 
"I watch Spanish football a lot. If they pass the ball sideways but keep possession, the fans clap them. Their attitude is that as long as you have got the ball, the other team can't hurt you. I know the mentality is different here and that is what makes our game the best in the world because it is so intense. But sometimes I have got to not listen and play my game because I feel I'm doing the best thing for the team." Tom Cleverley 2014

As I said, a fraud!
 
TwoSheds said:
Did OK today. Provided more urgency than any of our other midfielders have managed outside of Herrera in the games to date. He's never going to be a world beater but he's decent as long as he picks up the tempo.
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Did we watch the same match? I can't for a second believe we have...
 
Wayne's World said:
I know he's a local lad and everything but he's stealing a living playing for the club
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Isn't he from Hampshire?
TwoSheds said:
Did OK today. Provided more urgency than any of our other midfielders have managed outside of Herrera in the games to date. He's never going to be a world beater but he's decent as long as he picks up the tempo.
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I thought he did fine, he kept play ticking. That pitch map shows that he did a good amount of work keeping the play moving. I am not buying into the whole pitchforks and mob harassing mentality that is going on in these threads. Let all the babies have their bottle. I'm behind Cleverley to turn it around.
 
Iron Stove said:
It's always nice to see homegrown lads make it at United, but much like a guy like Gibson he just doesn't cut it. Gibson could shoot a bit, but didn't offer much else. Tom can pass and move a bit on his day, but not even all that great. It's time for him to leave.

The way he presents himself in interviews doesn't make things easier for him with the fans either.
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I did a little dance when we offloaded Gibson but I'd give my right bollock to have him back over Cleverly as it stands.

At least Gibson will shoot, pass forward sometimes, move about a bit, sometimes run with the ball.
Occasionally tackle.
Generally trying to play to football.
 
How shit must Anderson be to have Cleverley start ahead of him?

Most on here complain about his ineffectiveness, but today I saw him hiding a few times as well. Literally taking up a position behind another player so that he cannot receive the ball. Sunderland pressed whoever was on the ball so making yourself available for a pass would have helped.
 
To be honest, the kid has 0 confidence which doesn't help. He was actually decent at times in 2012/13. He is such a basic Footballer though it's scary how he still turns out for us, simple passes all the time, looks totally lost. His level is even below the likes of Everton for me, he is just about a Premier League Footballer. That is all. Needs to go.
 
I don't know why he has to do a 180 degree pirouette every time he has to hit a pass longer than his arm's length. Its funnier that he seems to throw his hands frustrated at others if they don't pass him the ball while does everything to make himself harder to find than a needle in a haystack.
 
His shooting technique is absolutely hilarious. He just can't shoot.
 
Bloxy said:
How shit must Anderson be to have Cleverley start ahead of him?

Most on here complain about his ineffectiveness, but today I saw him hiding a few times as well. Literally taking up a position behind another player so that he cannot receive the ball. Sunderland pressed whoever was on the ball so making yourself available for a pass would have helped.
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Almost every time he releases the ball he runs away into a pack of players. It's as if he's trying to make an attacking run or at least make it look like one, when in reality he's just running into a place he's never in a month of Sundays going to get the ball back.
 
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I don't know why he has to do a 180 degree pirouette every time he has to hit a pass longer than his arm's length. Its funnier that he seems to throw his hands frustrated at others if they don't pass him the ball while does everything to make himself harder to find than a needle in a haystack.
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He passes the ball like with real concentration on how to get height and direction on it, there is nothing exquisite about it. With players like Scholes they just effortlessly pinpoint it 40 yards, the magic is all in the foot.

Such an average player.
 
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