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Tom Cleverley | 2011/12 Performances
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And I with you. Just raging at the 'masses', do excuse me.
Giggs cannot play every game.
Funny we are now saying Cleverley and who else...
SAF did try and get the player we needed. We just need to work with what we have.
Cleverley and Anderson is still the best combo imo atm.
I'm sure he can't, but we haven't seen Cleverley and Giggs together in midfield yet, and I think it could be the best combination we have.
Giggs still seems to be able to play enough to make it worth trying.
Giggs still seems to be able to play enough to make it worth trying.
I have a hunch that SAF is trying to wait a year for Pogba and Tunnicliffe to step up.
In any case Scholes wasn't soldiering in the heat of the day last season either.
Barca and City are one thing, but even spending big in January won't guarantee success against them.
The take in 0:10...the pass in the buildup to the goal on 1:00...the Hollywood ball on 2:36...
PS) This Antooz fella makes some damn good vids
Back training on Thursday and ready for match on Saturday according to Twitter
The take in 0:10...the pass in the buildup to the goal on 1:00...the Hollywood ball on 2:36...
PS) This Antooz fella makes some damn good vids
Put in a brilliant shift. Hope he is back for the next game.
I don't know if it's just me, but he seems to me to have this brilliant understanding with Welbeck - which isn't surprising, given they are from the "same" youth batch and have played together since forever, for United and England age groups.
Cleverley against an England team is an unfair matchup, though.Check out that goal from England U21s training if you havnt already
Two things I took from that video:
1. The boy never wastes any time on the ball. He gets it and already knows what he's going to do with it. It's impressive watching him express himself and just shows he's enjoying his football right now. Can't wait to see him during the weekend.
2. I think opponents have picked up on how integral Cleverley is to our play. Even though they closed down most of their players, you can see in the vid that Everton tried to double team him and condense his space and passing options. There was one moment where Fellaini came chasing after him and basically knocked him over from behind. This is something that Tom will have to adjust to because I think teams are beginning to realize just how dangerous he can be. Those passes show enough already. Boy could turn out to be very special.
1. The boy never wastes any time on the ball. He gets it and already knows what he's going to do with it. It's impressive watching him express himself and just shows he's enjoying his football right now. Can't wait to see him during the weekend.
2. I think opponents have picked up on how integral Cleverley is to our play. Even though they closed down most of their players, you can see in the vid that Everton tried to double team him and condense his space and passing options. There was one moment where Fellaini came chasing after him and basically knocked him over from behind. This is something that Tom will have to adjust to because I think teams are beginning to realize just how dangerous he can be. Those passes show enough already. Boy could turn out to be very special.
His nickname should 24/7. He makes himself avaiable to pass the ball to him all the time. its not that much but helps his team mates a lot.
These things are great for getting a quick idea of a player's type of influence.
He's like a hinge for the offense to pivot upon at any time, he looked great there.
So long as it isn't sicknote
I hope his body is ready for the demands of CM and he isn't going to break down too often
We need this kid fit and playing for long periods I feel
I actually think he can improve in this respect when the ball is with the centre backs. He makes himself available really well otherwise but he doesn't take the ball off the centre backs enough but to be fair, he isn't a holding midfielder. He's someone who will link up a little further up the pitch. In his partnership with Anderson it was anderson who would receive the ball from the centrebacks and then cleverley would do his work a little further up. So in that sense, the partnership with fletcher is not the ideal one because fletcher doesnt really do it. Carrick and Anderson are better and starting attacks and hence on paper should suit cleverley more.
Obviously I don't mean he doesn't do it at all but I think he's best used drifted about finding.pockets of space in midfield slightly beyond the holding misfielder who starts the attack.
Yeah, the only doubt with Tom is whether he will be strong enough to play cm for United week in week out. Scholes was a similar size, but Scholes was 'wiry'.
I do have to add that he's the young player who has excited me most this season, moreso than Jones and welbeck. The speed at which his mind works is quite stunning. He almost always knows exactly what he wants to do before the ball comes to him. This is an immeasurably useful asset for a midfielder.
My memory is failing me but have we partnered him with carrick yet? On paper he should make a very good pairing with carrick that provides a decent balance of protection and potency.
My memory is failing me but have we partnered him with carrick yet? On paper he should make a very good pairing with carrick that provides a decent balance of protection and potency.
He'll handle the physical side just fine on the pitch. Injuries are a different matter and something you can't predict.
Yikes, did Xavi get that disease Michael Jackson had, where you turn white?
That pass he did when he was falling over against Everton
That lad Xavi seems to do alright too and he's of similar build to our Tom.
It's not the pure physical size. It's how strong the ligaments are. How strong the muscles are. You just can't judge that from pure physical size (although the bigger the better usually).
Injuries are all that can stop Tom.
His style of play just goes to show that if you do all the simple things well, you can be a top player. His game is totally based around constantly being available, knowing where his teammates are and executing simple but quick/effective passes. I really feel as though 90% of his game is in his head, which is true of most top midfielders.
That's not to say that he doesn't have great technical qualities (see the above pass vs Everton).
That's not to say that he doesn't have great technical qualities (see the above pass vs Everton).
What are you on about?
No doubt he's a very good player, his link up play is excellent and he can certainly get the best out of Rooney. His flaw is that he's just not very creative, and whether he's a goal scorer remains to be seen. But he needs someone of a defensive mould to play alongside him, and that's not Darren Fletcher or Anderson.
I want to see him and Carrick together, I think it'd be our best 2 man combination right now.
I want to see him and Carrick together, I think it'd be our best 2 man combination right now.
Hes making a lol because you mentioned Xavi and posted a pic of Modric
You put a picture of Modric up and then put a sentence about Xavi below it, and it read like that was supposed to be Xavi in the picture.
To be honest when we are playing a 4-4-2 with Rooney dropping deeper and Cleverley in behind, between the 2 of them we look to have plenty of creativity in the middle.
The main problem we've got as you mentioned is that he needs someone next to him that is of a defensive mould, but also combative and supportive in the middle of the park. Fergie (along with many others) clearly feels Carrick isn't that person anymore, but we don't have anyone who is. Jones played there once and looked poor, but it's possible that when Smalling/the twins are all fit he'll be given the role more often.
Oh right, is he a little slow?
Would it have made more sense to him had I replied to the following:
With a name rather than a picture, so....
"Modric!
That lad Xavi seems to do alright too and he's of similar build to our Tom."
goodevil is either slow, or has an extremely crap sense of humor.
No doubt, because Cleverley can bring the best out of Rooney and gets him on the ball more. But he himself isn't a creative player. Good passer, top dribbler, holds the ball well, links up well and plays smart passes.
Honestly we should be focusing on Cleverley now, not Anderson. Neither are the solution to our woes but the former is playing a lot better and seems to be improving the midfield more.
It seems we need 2 players at the moment to do the job of 1 top player. When we play 4-4-2 as mentioned previously we are creative but look very exposed. When we play 4-5-1 with for instance 3 of Cleverley/Carrick/Anderson/Fletcher and Rooney alone up front we lose all of Rooney's creativity (and urgo most our our teams creativity), but look more solid.
Cleverley/Hernandez/Welbeck's form for me has shown that we don't need someone in the ilk of Sneijder (as they have allowed Rooney to drop deeper and be a better version of Sneijder), but the form/ability of our other midfielders has shown that we need someone else who can dominate next to Cleverley, with Rooney just in front.
He is built like Modric
Rooney is arguably better but they're not very similar players.
He is built like Modric
That just reads as "Xavi is built like Modric"
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