I wouldn't no. We have our very expensive lead the line striker who bagged over 20 goals for the season. Lukaku, Rashford and Martial should mean we're ready for next season. Creating and a solid defensive line are our issues. We have 2 superb keepers. So why would anyone want to address issues that aren't really problematic?
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I wouldn't no. We have our very expensive lead the line striker who bagged over 20 goals for the season. Lukaku, Rashford and Martial should mean we're ready for next season. Creating and a solid defensive line are our issues. We have 2 superb keepers. So why would anyone want to address issues that aren't really problematic?
And yet he is still not a better player than Alderweireld which was the point. I like him very much but we don’t need a young prospect we need an experienced head. Wouldnt mind us signing both but its not necessary
World class? Really? What has he possibly achieved to make him world class? This is like those Mbappe threads I read where they say he is 'easily better than Kane'. He may well one day be better than Kane. That day is certainly not today. As De Ligt may well one day be a superstar defender far better than Alderweireld, but I kind of like to dwell in the here and now, not in the fantasy land of 2022. Alderweireld has been arguably the best CB in the league the past two seasons. The only reason Spurs have not been playing him is they are resigned to losing him, not because Sanchez is better. They are just giving Sanchez game time as he will be their CB moving forward.
lol so much this.
Sell Smalling, Lindelof on a loan to Wolverhampton, buy Alderweireld, and what will United’s central defence have in common? Nobody played football season 2017/18.
So you watched 3 Dutch games and one of those when you were actually in Holland.
I'd say you have a chance of being top of the "Posters who have watched the most Dutch games despite not being Dutch" list on here!
We have very good natural defenders in Bailly, Jones and Smalling. It's a leader that we need and Alderweireld would be perfect.
I'm sure De Ligt is a great talent and all but he's not what we need right now. Not as a sole central defensive signing anyway.
I'm sure De Ligt is a great talent and all but he's not what we need right now. Not as a sole central defensive signing anyway.
If we do buy the young lad the headline will be UNITED TURN DeLIGT ON
Whereas if we buy the lad from spurs we could potentially see Toby Jones playing
Whereas if we buy the lad from spurs we could potentially see Toby Jones playing
I've watched more than thatTagline incoming!
As Alderweireld's mom it doesn't count.
More than anything else this team needs a leader in the pitch which is something Alderweireld would add, not to mention he's at his peak and should have another ~3ish years before you'd think he would start to decline. I think he'd be the perfect addition. We've got young guys in Lindelof and Bailley - we need an experienced leader.
How is De Ligt world class? I'm sorry but some of you guys are talking wet.
Let me get this straight, we all want to overtake City next year but yet half the posters on here would rather buy a 18 y/o who may eventually be the best CB in the world instead of buying arguably the best CB in league now? How would that help us bridge the gap? How many 18 y/o is Pep buying for City? Plus we have our own young CBs already and Tuanzebe waiting, we need players that will improve us now and provide consistency. Alderweireld fits the bill perfectly. We will be regretting it next season if he goes to another PL team.
I wish!
No idea how anyone has come to this conclusion.
If Aston Villa get promoted I wouldn't mine Axel staying on loan in the premier league. I wish he could get games at CB. If we are signing a CB, with Axel in mind also, we need to offload at least two of our current CBs.
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Personally I think it is a bit naive to think signing another CB would solve the attacking problem, especially since Smalling alone has scored four PL goals this season. Neither do I think it is a key in any other way to become better than City.
The best goal scorer ended up with 17 goals and no one else even managed to score 10 goals in the league. If United want to be better than City, at least another 20 goals must be added for next season. I doubt buying more centrebacks will solve this issue.
I agree however that there is no true leader since Zlatan moved. Some players like Pogba really benefitted from him.
I would be very happy with this signing. He's better on the ball than any of the CBs we have right now, and he would make our team better when opponents put pressure on our defence.
Jose isn't buying him to improve our attack. He's a better CB right now than what we have, buying him makes us better plain and simple. United biggest problem is consistency. If he can bring that to our defense while improving a position then we will be a step closer.
You just choose to comfortably forget the fact that Toby had a long injury layoff and after his injury, he has not played much which means you cannot rule out that his hamstring injury is not recurring. Toby is a top defender but because of injury, it would be unncessary risk to sign him when there are good alternatives.
A question to you - how many 29 year old has Pep bought?
De ligt is not just another 18 year old, he is a quality defender despite his young age. I am not a fan of young players, especially for big clubs like United. But i do think this kid has everything in his locker to suceed here.
There's just as much risk involved in signing De Ligt for different reasons. With Toby the reward is a player that will make us better next season. United buying him wouldn't be with expectations of him being our CB for the next decade but instead an immediate impact. To answer your question, none, but what better proven alternatives are available? Do you follow Ajax enough to actually see De Ligt play?
I think Levy will make it as difficult as he can for you to get him. He might even take a smaller amount to the player to PSG or Barcelona, like did he sold Modric for 10M less than what Chelsea offered.
Would be very disappointed in the club if he stays in England if he goes.
Would be very disappointed in the club if he stays in England if he goes.
yes, I have watched enough games to say De ligt is good enough for us despite his tender age. If I had not, I would say we should go for some other centre back instead of Toby.
have you watched enough of Ajax to say De Ligt is not good enough for us?
There wouldn't be any instant and immediate impact above and beyond what we already have. He would simply be yet another CB who would play at times and sit on the bench at others. We bought a CB two summers ago and one last year as well who both were intermittently, but not consistently, involved.
Is he a huge improvement on what we have?
Yes. A certain starter.
Im not being rude but have you ever watched him play?
If he stays fit then yeah. But like Jones and Bailly, he also has loads of injury problems and they seem to be recurring. So I'm not that thrilled tbh, but if he stays fit then it'd be a great signing.
I watched him from Ajax back in 2010 actually, always thought he was very good but I think we actually have very good centre backs ( besides Lindelof ) - If we are going to get charged Levy prices id rather we spent the money elsewhere
Hes a top class CB comfortably Spurs best CB imo. Hes several levels above any of our CBs even on their best days, he's also a natural leader whch is something this team desperately needs.
I was under the impression he doesn't have injury problems?
If he does, feck that. We need to get rid of our sicknotes first before we bring new ones in.
If he does, feck that. We need to get rid of our sicknotes first before we bring new ones in.
No, and I didn't say he wasn't good enough. My argument is Toby is the better CB right now and would be a better addition going into next season.
Bailly hasn't been consistently involved this year due to injuries otherwise just like last season he would have been. As for Lindelof, I wasn't expecting him to come in this season and be our top CB and so very different from the expectations that would come with Toby.
You reckon he is levels above Bailly also? he is classy and composed, and would be a starter, but I do not see alot of problems with what we have already at CB, so if they want 50 million or above forget it
Yeah I would say he's better than Bailly. I think he's better on the ball, can play the ball forward and pick passes out he's also better in the air and can organise a defence. He has the experience and maturity that Bailly doesn't have just yet.
Levy always makes it hard for anyone to buy their players - the thing is they all want to leave spurs 'cause they pay miserly salaries.
Sold Walker to City with mimimmi fuss.
Alderweireld has sat on his arse for months - I think Spurs will be keen to move him on and, given contract situation, we should get him for 30-40 million I reckon
The thing is we won't ever have a settled CB pair. That's just not the future imo when you consider injuries, suspensions, international duties, etc. We need 4-5 qualiy CBs who can interchangeable play with any of the others, which allows Jose the most options. The only way for Alderweireld to come would be if one of ours left. I see there are some low quality links (The Mirror) suggesting Lindelof to Wolves, so lets see how everything unfolds.
We got Carrick, Berbatov, Sanchez, Van Persie and Matic - I think we can manage. This is Man United after all
I think he is certainly better than Bailly atm, but not levels above. However, a partnership of Alderweireld who is classy and composed as you say with Bailly who is the aggressive type of defender could potentially be great. One of the reasons why I'm also excited about this transfer.
Under the condition, they can stay injury free of course.
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