Yeah, what is the deal with all that?Titanic tourist submersible missing | Sub's debris found - crew "have been lost"
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Yeah, what is the deal with all that?The ship that hit ice
Down the waterline it did splice
Unsinkable they said
Well, now they’re all dead
Down the waterline it did splice
Unsinkable they said
Well, now they’re all dead
Will people continue to visit the titanic after this?
Probably. I mean the attractiveness of the spot has probably more than doubled.
Publish this you coward
Elon Musk will create Deep-X that visits the Titanic AND the Titan. With the long-term goal to colonize the Titan.
Nah…
That's not fair. All the man wanted to do was put lives at risk for his own financial gain
That's not fair. All the man wanted to do was put lives at risk for his own financial gain
Also why are people already drawing conclusion? The search party only found the brie from the sub! Granted it's not the best cheese, but it doesn't conclude anything.
So it is less respectful the harder/more dangerous it is to get there? That makes no sense.
No one even made that point. I certainly didn’t. Not sure where you’re trying to go with it.
In which case I've no idea what point that you were making? If it is just that it was dangerous then what does it being or not being a place where people die matter? If it is just that it is a place where people died what does the risk have to do with it? Or something else?
I did a great deal of wreck diving in the UK before getting sick of the temperature, low visibility and dodgy conditions. I then did quite a bit in various places around the world. The best stuff was in The Solomon's in the late 80's. Lots of war wrecks. Quite a few planes and even the remains of a sub mostly in shallow water. There was one dive near where I was working that was a huge Japanese transporter that was beached then sank after further bombardment by the US. The bows were out of the water the stern and propellers in 60/70m down the reef. A bit deep for air diving but we still did it with only a very short time at the deepest point and air tanks tied off at various points on the way back up for deco stops.
There were a few very good wrecks further off shore, in what is know as Iron Bottom Sound due to the number of wrecks, which required decompressions stops but were incredible dives.
I've always wanted to dive the war wrecks in Micronesia, which are also generally deep, but s I tur 60 next year I'm not sure I'd risk it as it seem likely that you can potentially become more susceptible to things like the bends as you get older.
Yeah my step dad got into after I did some, now he's done several hundred dives all over the world and a few ship wrecks.
Sounds like you're a really accomplished diver! Just something about seeing dead people is creepy.
I've done little recently but I did a huge amount before I was 30. Many thousand dives as I started at 14 with the Manchester Diving Club and was a Dive Instructor and Instructor Trainer and then a marine biologist for much of my 20s and 30s.
How would you recommend dealing with ear pain/pressure pain when down there? I was trying to swallow and do the nose breathing thing but agony in my ears.
Usually one of two things.
1) not clearing your ears correctly. Once you feel discomfort it is harder to clear them.
2) you have congested Eustachian tubes due to allergies or a colds in which case antihistamines or decongestants may help.
Reason 1 is more common than 2.
Try swallowing. Do your ears clear or pop?
Amazing. I did my first dive at 13 and was hooked but had no resources or funds to do it again until I was 25, then I did my PADI in Cambodia and my freediving cert in Koh Tao. The latter I can't believe I did so much of, given the danger, wouldn't go back to doing that again now I'm in my thirties.
Thanks for the reply, found them popping more than anything. Then trying to clear and it's not clearing.
I find it crazy how James Cameron (who is probably one of the most trustable people in this case) said that there had never been a case of subs impolsion with passenger on board when the subs fulfilled the well defined standards which means it only ever happened during testing. Meanwhile these ex Space X geniuses used the materials designed for space exploration for subs. Why do I feel like this is a case of them wanting to appear smart and to invent something.
Wish people are more vocal about Ocean Gate than billionaires getting killed. What a shady company. 250k to get in subs with no license. Nice. Fecking idiots, why invent something worse??
Wish people are more vocal about Ocean Gate than billionaires getting killed. What a shady company. 250k to get in subs with no license. Nice. Fecking idiots, why invent something worse??
gosh that is indeed the funniest thing possible
i believe they’ve made all future comedy obsolete.
Titanic Sub Tourism Expedition - Exclusive Footage (My Personal Experience)
Good knowing ya.
No. Hence why I said “more evidence”, for anyone not already aware. Half the country think that anyone wealthy got there through brains and brawn, not luck, which a lot of the time it is.
I think it would depend where the tube bit failed.
If the tube failed right in the middle of it's length then, potentially the caps could just fall straight down as the tube collapses in on itself. There would be some of the implosive wave that could then overspill and push them back a bit away from each other.
However the tube is most likely to have failed where there was a cavitation or bubble or crack that repeated stressing of dive and ascent will have opened up.
This could be anywhere on the tube so the vessel may not have imploded symetrically.
Given how carbon fibre can shatter, the relative distance between the caps might be the only way to model where the failure happened.
Someone is probably preparing a computer model as we speak to work it out.
I found practicing wiggling my ears up and down helped and liberal use of "swim ear" to help clear the ears after after each dive.
Even without the benefit of hindsight, everything about this video just screams red flags. All those early issues with the sub and them just figuring how to fix it on a daily basis. Watching that and then watching the extremely rough conditions of the sea, I really don't think I'd have backed myself to go down in that vessel. And that's without even speaking of how primitive all the technology looked once they actually entered the vessel for that test dive later. Everything just felt so casual, like some sort of well-funded school project. I can't get over the fact that they were asking untrained commoners to help them with fixing the issues they had. A $250,000 ticket to the bottom of the seafloor really should get better support.
Yep. It seemed to be a business that relied on its customers knowing nothing about the dangers of the deep sea. Which tbh comes across when I’ve seen former customers interviewed.
That video was a staggering watch. Everything about the mission looked amateurish as you've already highlighted.
Biggest loss was probably of the pilot/guide. Seemed to have gone down there numerous times and also remotely piloted craft to the site as well. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul-Henri_Nargeolet
Physically wiggling your ears can help a bit but it really about practice getting your ears to pop. Swallowing helps and eventually you can just twitch the appropriate muscles without swallowing. Aqua ear is just to dry out the outer ear canal to prevent infections as sea water has lost of bacteria and viruses in it - so doesn't actually help you clear your ears at all. Often not clearing your ears well causes inflammation of the Eustachian tube which feels very similar to having water in your outer ear because the primary symptom is slightly muffled hearing in both cases, so the two are often confused.
That’s absolutely astounding. A flight would clear out in an instant if the pilot got on the tannoy told their passengers ‘There is something wrong with the flight computers and they aren’t talking to each other properly, if anyone wants to help fix we’ll be on the tarmac’.
And after all that the people who paid for this pleasure cruise still got in the thing, and would probably have died on the test dive were it not for the sub getting stuck in its platform thing.
So the rumours about the 19 year old being dragged into the sub by his dad are false. His mother said in an interview that he was really stoked about the whole thing. In fact, he had contacted Guinness World Records and made an arrangement. He was supposed to solve a Rubik's cube at the bottom and thus setting a world record. The dad brought a video camera in order to document the world record...
I think salt actually kills bacteria no? Its also used as food preservative for that purpose.
Just a series of red flags here - even down to how they used novices when trying to secure the platform next to the ship in a rolling sea....the scene when the diver was communicating about the platform locking mechanism while the comms were out was just farcical. when rush said - we might "just pop off the end of platform" if the pneumatic lock wasn't working. The aggressive dive and ascent angle the platform took, to me shows they didn't have full control of their vessel or the buoyancy of the platform.
What's also interesting is he still tried to take the vessel down to 3000feet as part of a "test dive" and that the guy says someone else didn't want to do the test dive and was put on the next titanic mission instead. Given the uncertain seas in the area there is always going to be a high chance of not being able to dive due to weather. So maybe Rush was under pressure because he had a stack of "owed" dives and needed the cash flow. This seems likely because this guy says he was offered a place for free and I'm seeing lots of stories online about various influencers being offered a place. If he's offering free spaces for clicks and interest then maybe the finances were in a dire state.
Salt reduces the amount of moisture for bacteria to propagate in
It also extracts water from bacterium cells