That’s about as accurate as the Simpson’s version of predicting it
The whole thing became a meme, peaking at a time when their relatives must have been frantic with worry and this kid was either dying the most horrendous death imaginable, or already dead. I know this might come across as a bit po-faced and I'm not demanding that anyone should mourn strangers but the whole thing reflected badly on everyone involved in the pile-on. The lack of basic human empathy was grim. Even more so when so much of it was coming from people who would probably think of themselves as belonging to the compassionate end of the political spectrum.
Can you imagine the reaction if the same "hilarious" meme frenzy happened when those Thai kids were trapped in the cave? How furious everyone would be? Yet here we are, not showing a hint of compassion towards people in a similarly horrific scenario because the culture war deems them as bad people, whose trauma means nothing to us. That's fecked up.
Online commenters and journalists are calling out Stockton Rush, he CEO and co-founder of OceanGate who was killed onboard the Titan submersible, for his goals of using his deep sea exploration tourism as a cost-effective tool for oil and gas companies.
His father, Richard Stockton Rush Jr, is the chairman of Peregrine oil and gas company based in Northern California. In addition to his familial ties to the industry, Stockton Rush sought to sell his submersibles as a tool for companies who want to explore deep sea drilling opportunities but aren’t willing to pay for the machinery that would support that field research.
In a 2017 Fast Company article, Rush said that OceanGate wouldn’t be involved in oil production, but instead were, “just going to be involved in inspection, repair, and maintenance.”
Rush, if he were alive, would not be facing a very pleasant time if he surfaced.
Definitely. Once liberal, “compassionate” Twitter turns on you they will hunt you down, to the ends of the internet, to get their pound of flesh.
While I agree with what Pogue meant as well, you are correct. The Transportation Safety Board of Canada has already launched a safety investigation into the accident and the US Coast Guard also alluded that a formal inquiry would begin soon.I reckon he meant like a federal probe and not memers
Personally I find the lack of empathy in people on here failing to understand why the internet is making jokes at the expense of these rich clowns even more baffling.The whole thing became a meme, peaking at a time when their relatives must have been frantic with worry and this kid was either dying the most horrendous death imaginable, or already dead. I know this might come across as a bit po-faced and I'm not demanding that anyone should mourn strangers but the whole thing reflected badly on everyone involved in the pile-on. The lack of basic human empathy was grim. Even more so when so much of it was coming from people who would probably think of themselves as belonging to the compassionate end of the political spectrum.
Can you imagine the reaction if the same "hilarious" meme frenzy happened when those Thai kids were trapped in the cave? How furious everyone would be? Yet here we are, not showing a hint of compassion towards people in a similarly horrific scenario because the culture war deems them as bad people, whose trauma means nothing to us. That's fecked up.
The idea was to take tourists as guinea pigs for the oil industry? Wonder if theRush, if he were alive, would not be facing a very pleasant time if he surfaced.
Personally I find the lack of empathy in people on here failing to understand why the internet is making jokes at the expense of these rich clowns even more baffling.
I think @Wibble mentioned that the people making the jokes must be bitter and twisted. Yes, they absolutely are bitter? How is that surprising? Of course they are. Have you not seen the state of the world? So many ordinary people are being fecked over by the decisions of the rich and the powerful. We see them living the sorts of lives and doing things we can only dream of doing and we know that they're only able to do this because they've taken advantage of a system that exploits ordinary people.
It's pretty obvious that these rich people have become a proxy for all the resentment that's been growing in the last few years. The fact they were so rich yet died in such a ridiculous way, in a sub made by a company trying to cut any corners they could for a tiny bit more profit, doing something a regular person isn't likely to ever do in their lives, is what makes it so hilarious. It's like the perfect metaphor for capitalism.
Personally I have more in common with and more empathy for the people making the jokes than the people on the sub but somehow I feel that's the opposite for you. The fact you're comparing this to the Thai kids incident shows you have no understanding of why people are making the jokes.
I thought @Mogget was Danish?I'm glad I can separate by dislike for the growing gap between rich and poor from personal ill will for, sometimes to the point of wishing death upon, people who are wealthier than me.
Shame people didn't express their dislike for inequality by not voting Tory for years.
You would have hated the French revolution. All those poor people with their lack of empathy for the richI'm glad I can separate by dislike for the growing gap between rich and poor from personal ill will for, sometimes to the point of wishing death upon, people who are wealthier than me.
Shame people didn't express their dislike for inequality by not voting Tory for years.
Personally I find the lack of empathy in people on here failing to understand why the internet is making jokes at the expense of these rich clowns even more baffling.
I think @Wibble mentioned that the people making the jokes must be bitter and twisted. Yes, they absolutely are bitter? How is that surprising? Of course they are. Have you not seen the state of the world? So many ordinary people are being fecked over by the decisions of the rich and the powerful. We see them living the sorts of lives and doing things we can only dream of doing and we know that they're only able to do this because they've taken advantage of a system that exploits ordinary people.
It's pretty obvious that these rich people have become a proxy for all the resentment that's been growing in the last few years. The fact they were so rich yet died in such a ridiculous way, in a sub made by a company trying to cut any corners they could for a tiny bit more profit, doing something a regular person isn't likely to ever do in their lives, is what makes it so hilarious. It's like the perfect metaphor for capitalism.
Personally I have more in common with and more empathy for the people making the jokes than the people on the sub but somehow I feel that's the opposite for you. The fact you're comparing this to the Thai kids incident shows you have no understanding of why people are making the jokes.
A cemetery on the ground level is completely different to a cemetery on the bed of the ocean. Strange comparison dude.I don't get this line of thinking. Cemetries, graveyards, mausoleums etc pull millions of tourists every year. Should we not go to Highgate cemetry, or Arlington? should we not visit battle fields like the Somme or Gettysburg? What about Auschwitz or the Killing Fields?
Where do you draw the line?
A cemetery on the ground level is completely different to a cemetery on the bed of the ocean. Strange comparison dude.
You really need an answer explaining for this?It is?
What makes it different?
WhyA cemetery on the ground level is completely different to a cemetery on the bed of the ocean. Strange comparison dude.
One's wet when it rains the other always is. What's wrong with you people? hopefully doesn't need white text.
You genuinely believe there’s no difference in visiting a cemetery on the ground than a cemetery on the bed of the Atlantic Ocean?
Apart from getting there is more difficult.You genuinely believe there’s no difference in visiting a cemetery on the ground than a cemetery on the bed of the Atlantic Ocean?
I’d also imagine it’s considerably much safer taking a walk to your local cemetery than going 12,500 feet under water in mode of transportation that is deemed unsafe by many experts and has parts which aren’t even certified to be safe.Apart from getting there is more difficult.
Apart from getting there is more difficult.
You are a lot closer to where they died on the support vessel than in the sub.It's not a fair comparison. The "normal" cemetery, isn't where they died, it's not where the had the car crash, or the heart attack, it's where they were placed, maybe at their will or certainly at their families, to be remembered and visited. The titanic is where 1500 people died, it's not a place for remembrance, it's a crash site.
That's irrelevant to the original point which was people saying it was a site that tourists shouldn't go to as so many people's remains were still there. Of course it's difficult and dangerous to get there, that's why hardly anyone goes.I’d also imagine it’s considerably much safer taking a walk to your local cemetery than going 12,500 feet under water in mode of transportation that is deemed unsafe by many experts and has parts which aren’t even certified to be safe.
It's not a fair comparison. The "normal" cemetery, isn't where they died, it's not where the had the car crash, or the heart attack, it's where they were placed, maybe at their will or certainly at their families, to be remembered and visited. The titanic is where 1500 people died, it's not a place for remembrance, it's a crash site.
It is relevant because the original point stated a resting place of 1500 people at “such depth” (I.E. a dangerous place to go) should never be visited.That's irrelevant to the original point which was people saying it was a site that tourists shouldn't go to as so many people's remains were still there. Of course it's difficult and dangerous to get there, that's why hardly anyone goes.
You really need an answer explaining for this?
I went to the killing fields in my 20s. There wasn’t much else to do in Cambodia: it’s the most depressing tour. Hundreds of skulls on display. Clothes poking out of holes in the ground. Motorbike guides who happily take you round smiling whilst telling you that all of their family got killed. A primary school that was turned into a torture centre. Depressing shit.That's irrelevant to the original point which was people saying it was a site that tourists shouldn't go to as so many people's remains were still there. Of course it's difficult and dangerous to get there, that's why hardly anyone goes.
I get this but that's why I mentioned Auschwitz and the Killing Fields, thousands upon thousands died in those places, but both are deemed perfectly acceptable to visit.
Personally I find the lack of empathy in people on here failing to understand why the internet is making jokes at the expense of these rich clowns even more baffling.
I think @Wibble mentioned that the people making the jokes must be bitter and twisted. Yes, they absolutely are bitter? How is that surprising? Of course they are. Have you not seen the state of the world? So many ordinary people are being fecked over by the decisions of the rich and the powerful. We see them living the sorts of lives and doing things we can only dream of doing and we know that they're only able to do this because they've taken advantage of a system that exploits ordinary people.
It's pretty obvious that these rich people have become a proxy for all the resentment that's been growing in the last few years. The fact they were so rich yet died in such a ridiculous way, in a sub made by a company trying to cut any corners they could for a tiny bit more profit, doing something a regular person isn't likely to ever do in their lives, is what makes it so hilarious. It's like the perfect metaphor for capitalism.
Personally I have more in common with and more empathy for the people making the jokes than the people on the sub but somehow I feel that's the opposite for you. The fact you're comparing this to the Thai kids incident shows you have no understanding of why people are making the jokes.
That’s a shame.Yes, I’m not getting your logic at all.
It is relevant because the original point stated a resting place of 1500 people at “such depth” (I.E. a dangerous place to go) should never be visited.
You bizarrely responded to him implying he was suggesting we shouldn’t visit any resting places. All the places you brought up has zero relevance to his point.
Seriously, the resting place for 1,500 people at such depth should never be a place for tourists nor private companies to go nearby.
People are free to go where they want and risk their lives as much as they want as long as it doesn’t affect and endanger others.Hmmm I took the resting place to be the key part of that and to be fair I refereed to people giving this line of thought rather than just the one poster, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
So at what depth or what level of danger do you draw the line? and why should we not go, surely the risk is for those that want to go to assess? Or are resting places at the bottom of the ocean worthy of more respect than those on the surface?
Does this mean that scuba divers shouldn't dive wrecks? or is that acceptably close to the surface?
Oh I didn't, I fecking hate the Tories. I think he was just making a general commentAlright, thanks. I'll still prefer to imagine you didn't vote Tory recently.
I went to the killing fields in my 20s. There wasn’t much else to do in Cambodia: it’s the most depressing tour. Hundreds of skulls on display. Clothes poking out of holes in the ground. Motorbike guides who happily take you round smiling whilst telling you that all of their family got killed. A primary school that was turned into a torture centre. Depressing shit.
Interestingly enough later on the Paris Commune burned the guillotine.You would have hated the French revolution. All those poor people with their lack of empathy for the rich
Interestingly enough later on the Paris Commune burned the guillotine.