Titanic tourist submersible missing | Sub's debris found - crew "have been lost"

So did they maybe die instantly? Better than thinking of them terrified for days running out of air
 
In all seriousness…
A good friend of mine killed themselves a couple years ago, and honestly, humor is the best way I’ve found to come to terms with it.

Same. My friend Joe took his own life. Left a huge hole and humour was our only way out of it.

We literally use ‘Where are you on the Joe scale’ as a shortcut to talk about whether we need an immediate friend (a 9/10) or to catch up soon (a 4/10). Anytime someone is going through shit. We can talk about convos we have had with someone and callously say “Unless they’re pushing 8/10 on the Joe, I can’t find time until next week”. Freely understanding that people would use the same terminology about me.

There’s only so long you can analyse and unpack. Humour lets air in and takes the weight out of things, letting healing start.
 
Same. My friend Joe took his own life. Left a huge hole and humour was our only way out of it.

We literally use ‘Where are you on the Joe scale’ as a shortcut to talk about whether we need an immediate friend (a 9/10) or to catch up soon (a 4/10). Anytime someone is going through shit. We can talk about convos we have had with someone and callously say “Unless they’re pushing 8/10 on the Joe, I can’t find time until next week”. Freely understanding that people would use the same terminology about me.

There’s only so long you can analyse and unpack. Humour lets air in and takes the weight out of things, letting healing start.
Agreed 100%

Sounds like we have friend groups with very similar senses of humor
 
I don't think the purpose of the term is to flatter them, it's to distance the company from the duty of care associated with terms like 'customers'.
isn't it because they wouldn't get clearance to dive to the wreck of the titanic unless they pretend they're doing research? Sure I've seen that somewhere. So "explorers" sound like they're researching stuff and not there just to have a look.

Sounds like the French fella was definitely there as an explorer tbh, apparently had huge titanic knowledge, not sure about the other 3 passengers.
 
Nop.. consolation was that the death was instantaneous. (waiting to hear from USCG, so far only this idiotic company's statement is there)

Edit: I am no expert but this is what one guy said:



I'm calling bollocks. The interior would be heated to the surface temp of the sun?? Surely not. And if yes, then isn't that going to leave a good way to find where all this happened?
 
Shit way to go regardless of one's wealth but why has this story received so much publicity?
MSNBC was playing bumper music in & out of commercials similar to that played when a head of state passes.

Just a touch over the top.
 
isn't it because they wouldn't get clearance to dive to the wreck of the titanic unless they pretend they're doing research? Sure I've seen that somewhere. So "explorers" sound like they're researching stuff and not there just to have a look.

Sounds like the French fella was definitely there as an explorer tbh, apparently had huge titanic knowledge, not sure about the other 3 passengers.
Seemingly, if you wanna go in the hull and you're from one of the countries that observes the treaty (possibly just US and UK) then you may need to claim it is "justified by educational, scientific, or cultural interests" but I would imagine 'educational' is a pretty easy one to argue there.

Read somewhere that the average trip was one captain, one guide and three paying customers, so I imagine your French bloke was the guide from that sounds of it?
 
At least they didn't spend 96 hours knowing that was how much time they had left waiting and praying in despair and darkness. This death is as instant as can be so they didn't have to suffer knowing the end was near. Unlike many of the passengers on that night in 1912 stuck on board the Titanic's lower decks as she went down in a cruel irony.

I've avoided reading into the arguments of wealth because while I think this sort of tourism is a hobby for the wealthy at the end of the day they're human too. The 19 year old I just heard was a first year student at Strathclyde which is a renowned institution and certainly in the UK is a leading research institution. His life was only just starting. I don't even imagine what his mother is feeling now.
 
That's a few weeks old. Was he on this one too?
Looks like Paul-Henry Nargeolet
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65993579
 
It's ridiculous. They are mega wealthy tourists, nothing more, nothing less. Well, less now.

Two of them were more than just tourists, they are serious divers/explorers.

Hamish Harding held three Guinness World Records, including longest time spent during a dive to the deepest part of the Mariana Trench (the deepest part of the ocean we currently know of).
Paul-Henry Nargeolet was a diver in the French Navy. He was part of the first expedition to visit the Titanic wreck after it was found.
 
What it is the chance they were alive first but the sub imploded later?

Unlikely it happened after those "bangs" as the equipment on the area would have picked up such a large event.

Potential things failed and then imploded later (but before rescue / search ships were there) but likely it just imploded suddenly and the crew knew nothing.
 
Shit way to go regardless of one's wealth but why has this story received so much publicity?

Doesn't this always happen whenever there's a 'race against the clock' incident? This one, the flooded cave children, Suez blocked ship, covid cruise ship etc. They love milking these.

Come to think of it they're all water related.