I don’t get it. How can they hear banging sounds and not see the thing? Or do sounds travel hundreds of miles under water?!
Yes I think they've potentially just suffered a total electrical power failure and are lying static in the water. It had a rash of battery problems when it first started apparently. The fact that this vessel seems to have no manual means of recovering itself towards the surface is just a dereliction of basic safety standards. Even the dodgiest of Snorkelling trips seem to have been better organised than this escapade.Sound waves. Countries spend billions trying to find enemy submarines, this is a happy side effect. If the Navy are involved they will be able to find where it is quite accurately. Modern diesel subs can go almost totally silent, yet they can still be tracked.
I don't know why we are still talking about the construction of this thing. If they're making noises the structure hasn't failed.
Yes there is. And it is only certified to depths of 1300m. The titanic sits at around 3800m. So only a third of the depth it needs to go to is it safe for.I imagine there is a small port hole but at that depth it's just another failure point.
Lochridge learned that the viewport manufacturer would only certify to a depth of 1,300 meters due to experimental design of the viewport supplied by OceanGate, which was out of the Pressure Vessels for Human Occupancy ("PVHO") standards. OceanGate refused to pay for the manufacturer to build a viewport that would meet the required depth of 4,000 meters.
Once you realise humans are usually duplicitous, stupid and greedy mammals, behaviour is really easy to predict.Yes there is. And it is only certified to depths of 1300m. The titanic sits at around 3800m. So only a third of the depth it needs to go to is it safe for.
An employee was fired for whistleblowing and bringing to light this glaring safety concern.
https://newrepublic.com/post/173802/missing-titanic-sub-faced-lawsuit-depths-safely-travel-oceangate
Yes I think they've potentially just suffered a total electrical power failure and are lying static in the water. It had a rash of battery problems when it first started apparently. The fact that this vessel seems to have no manual means of recovering itself towards the surface is just a dereliction of basic safety standards. Even the dodgiest of Snorkelling trips seem to have been better organised than this escapade.
None of which appear to be workingApparently it has 7 different ways of recovering itself to the surface.
We don't know that yet - if the banging noises (very vague description anyway) are not coming from the submersible, there's as much chance it's on the surface as that it's still somewhere down near the Titanic.None of which appear to be working
We don't know that yet - if the banging noises (very vague description anyway) are not coming from the submersible, there's as much chance it's on the surface as that it's still somewhere down near the Titanic.
Going by what the sub looked like in the videos and how it's been put together, I would suggest their only way to measure their depth would be for them to say they are either on the surface, on the bottom...or somewhere in between. I think they use the Goldilocks approach.this may be a silly thought, but could someone possibly bang out morse code saying what depth and position they are at?
Would repetitive exposure to pressures it isn't designed for mean that the window could in fact handle that kind of pressure (even though not specifically intended) or would it rather cause the window surface to deteriorate per descent to the Titanic? If it's the latter then it was a ticking timebomb anyway.
The banging noises could indicate that it's some kind of power failure rather than a leakage or pressure issue, if indeed the noises are coming from the submersible.
Although I want you to be correct, do you not think that if they were on the surface there’s a far higher chance that they’d either have been spotted, or have some way of communicating their position? If they’ve done this hundreds of times before they must have a plan for how to identify their position and disembark once the sub reaches the surface.
this may be a silly thought, but could someone possibly bang out morse code saying what depth and position they are at?
How fkn stupid are these billionaires? Why not hire a proper sub and crew not some dodgy cut corners crew. Its not like they dont have the money. I mean one guy literally decided to take his son on a life or death trip and decided to go the cheapo route to save a few dollars. Its like going skydiving with mad Joe from the pub that has a few chutes in his shed from his army days.
With good reason, apparently.I mean, it’s not like there’s a selection of submarine operators all competing to take people on tours of the Titanic.
With good reason, apparently.
Science and film crews etc have been down there. I'm sure billionaires could hire someone to take themI mean, it’s not like there’s a selection of submarine operators all competing to take people on tours of the Titanic.
A hyperbaric chamber?
You'd be surprised at how stingy some people can be despite being already rich. Saving cost is the name of the game, they're always looking for the best deal cost wise than quality wise. Yes it's still a lot of money. But spending twice for a bit more safety? is probably not a good deal for them.How fkn stupid are these billionaires? Why not hire a proper sub and crew not some dodgy cut corners crew. Its not like they dont have the money. I mean one guy literally decided to take his son on a life or death trip and decided to go the cheapo route to save a few dollars. Its like going skydiving with mad Joe from the pub that has a few chutes in his shed from his army days.
Science and film crews etc have been down there. I'm sure billionaires could hire someone to take them
He's a billionaire. He could just commission and build his own if he's that desperate to see the titanic.I mean, it’s not like there’s a selection of submarine operators all competing to take people on tours of the Titanic.
Science and film crews etc have been down there. I'm sure billionaires could hire someone to take them
Hire someone competent. This company has a history of people questioning the safety standards. These billionaires didn't hire someone to look into the company, assess risk and then decide to find another alternative?They did hire someone to take them down. That’s what happened.
How fkn stupid are these billionaires? Why not hire a proper sub and crew not some dodgy cut corners crew. Its not like they dont have the money. I mean one guy literally decided to take his son on a life or death trip and decided to go the cheapo route to save a few dollars. Its like going skydiving with mad Joe from the pub that has a few chutes in his shed from his army days.
Hire someone competent. This company has a history of people questioning the safety standards. These billionairs didnt hire someone to look into the company, assess risk and then decide to find another alternative?
I feel like being the sorta person who wants to go to the bottom of the sea and being the sorta person who wants to conduct a thorough safety inspection aren't really gonna be a common combination.Hire someone competent. This company has a history of people questioning the safety standards. These billionaires didn't hire someone to look into the company, assess risk and then decide to find another alternative?
this may be a silly thought, but could someone possibly bang out morse code saying what depth and position they are at?
this is actually true, I am very shocked you'd take such a trip on a vessel that's not been tested or certified at all, but there's many stupid people around.How fkn stupid are these billionaires? Why not hire a proper sub and crew not some dodgy cut corners crew. Its not like they dont have the money. I mean one guy literally decided to take his son on a life or death trip and decided to go the cheapo route to save a few dollars. Its like going skydiving with mad Joe from the pub that has a few chutes in his shed from his army days.
Yeah the French guy is ex navy and supposedly very experienced. But as you say if everything has failed they maybe would only know roughly where they were before it failedIsn't the 77 year old ex military? Would they know where they are exactly though if everything there has failed?
You cant go out and taste the water can you? Youre looking out the window. Thats all theres to it, its real but you cant do anything. With VR you can find the most comfy place to lie down and enjoy the view without worrying about if you will make it back to the surface or not. This is one of the areas where utilizing VR makes a lot of sense.Because an illusion is still only an illusion !?
The step son is certainly getting some heat for some of his tweets.It really would be so funny if we bring 'em all up safe and sound and they get to read all the billionaire hatred and Blink-182 jokes we've been getting up to during their terrifying ordeal.
These 7 different methods have been mentioned to one journalist...but there is little sign of them on the pictures shown of the vessel so far. (I really hope I am wrong here by the way). One of these methods was to rock the ship from side to side (from inside it!) and "dislodge" the u shaped weights from their location on the "feet" of the vessel.None of which appear to be working
Even Hamish friend pulled out of the expedition due to safety concerns, that should have been warning enough for him to not go as wellHire someone competent. This company has a history of people questioning the safety standards. These billionaires didn't hire someone to look into the company, assess risk and then decide to find another alternative?
Not saying VR might not be the superior experience but for me the real thing still has something that makes it inherently more exciting.You cant go out and taste the water can you? Youre looking out the window. Thats all theres to it, its real but you cant do anything. With VR you can find the most comfy place to lie down and enjoy the view without worrying about if you will make it back to the surface or not. This is one of the areas where utilizing VR makes a lot of sense.
