Tiemoue Bakayoko

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If that's what we are going for there'd be a lot better options than Bakayoko.

There'd also be better options than Herrera in that set up. Shifting him into a deeper position won't make him a deep-lying playmaker.
 
There'd also be better options than Herrera in that set up. Shifting him into a deeper position won't make him a deep-lying playmaker.

No disagreement there mate, to me it's logical to simply replace the piece in midfield that is getting too old with a newer piece, raher than alter the 2 perfectly functioning parts of the midfield who are in their prime.
 
No disagreement there mate, to me it's logical to simply replace the piece in midfield that is getting too old with a newer piece, raher than alter the 2 perfectly functioning parts of the midfield who are in their prime.

Aye, think I agree 100% with everything you've said in this thread.
 
Aye, think I agree 100% with everything you've said in this thread.

It's strange that we've got our midfield playing the best it has in a long time with the perfect balance and people want to diisrupt it with a player lacking the right skill set or adding a #10 which will neuter Pogba.

What type of player he is?

You'd like him dev, he's big and powerful and athletic, the kind of midfielder you have expressed wanting United to sign, not a DM but basically a WWE version of Herrera.
 
You'd like him dev, he's big and powerful and athletic, the kind of midfielder you have expressed wanting United to sign, not a DM but basically a WWE version of Herrera.

Such type of play should allow us to replace Carrick with a Verratti hopefully ;):drool:

Thanks for the info

PS another 6ft+ midfielder. ;)
 
Should learn from the Schneiderlin signing that you need quality on the ball to play for United. Have never seen this guy play like most here but doubt he has it.
 
Should learn from the Schneiderlin signing that you need quality on the ball to play for United. Have never seen this guy play like most here but doubt he has it.

Are you sure about that? Schneiderlin has more quality then Fellaini does and Fellaini play more. The likes of Nicky Butt, Phil Nev and JSP were hardly maestros with the ball but they shaped a long career with us. Schniederlin's problem is that he plays too safe and tend to vanish in the game. You barely notice him when he plays
 
Such type of play should allow us to replace Carrick with a Verratti hopefully ;):drool:

Thanks for the info

PS another 6ft+ midfielder. ;)

:lol: Touche! Personally I wouldn't swap Herrera out for him but there's no harm in having options to rotate, the bigger concern is that was where I saw Fosu-Mensah making his bones.

Any time mate.

Yes, we'll be dubbed the Monster Squad soon. :devil:
 
Are you sure about that? Schneiderlin has more quality then Fellaini does and Fellaini play more. The likes of Nicky Butt, Phil Nev and JSP were hardly maestros with the ball but they shaped a long career with us. Schniederlin's problem is that he plays too safe and tend to vanish in the game. You barely notice him when he plays

Well I am assuming this guy would be MC replacement. If we were replace a MC quality player with a Phil Neville player, then we would t be very successful. Verrati would be good signing.
 
It's strange that we've got our midfield playing the best it has in a long time with the perfect balance and people want to diisrupt it with a player lacking the right skill set or adding a #10 which will neuter Pogba.

I agree with you

And for those who don't know, Bakayoko looks like Kondogbia... a tall guy with skills but sometimes lazy and tactically weak. He's just a little more defensive than the other... For me he has the potential to become a really good player, against the PSG early in the season, he was the best player of the pitch, he bullied Verratti.


But I think that he'll choose the Ivory Coast ( AFCON...) and to be good with Pogba, we need to buy a number 8 like Verratti, Modric, Kovacic, Thiago (Bayern) etc.
 
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Anyone mentioned the possibility of Anderson moving deeper and this guy taking the role he currently occupies?
 
I remember Ibrahim Bakayoko from the old Championship Manager game, unstoppable :drool:

On that basis, buy.

Pretty sure he was easy to pick up on free transfer at the start of the first season in one of the cm's.
Me and a friend always tried to sign him first.
Am/f r/l/c - or something ;)
 
If this guy is just a destroyer without a passing repertoire, I don't see why Fosu-Mensah couldn't be groomed to fill that position.
 
www.espnfc.co.uk/story/3027680/tiemoue-bakayoko-not-interested-in-leaving-monaco-during-january-window

"I have had a good first six months, but the season is not over. I won't leave Monaco this winter, that's a certainty. I don't want to leave," he said.

"Of course the Premier League makes you dream, but I have no reason to leave this winter.

"Right now, I have two ambitions: finish champions of France and go as far as possible in the Champions League."

Guessing we sign no-one in January.

I've heard Chelsea are also very interested in him so who knows where he'll end up in the summer. Guessing he must be a big talent though.
 

He is absolutely the type of player we should be signing. If we continue with the existing system then it's clear that he is competing for the present Herrera role. Herrera is 27 and Bakayoko is 22. Perfect really and would mean we could move on Fellaini.

Doesn't solve the issue with Carrick but it helps to make our midfield bulletproof for years to come. Hopefully that 6 position is solved. But with a short term absence it is still possible to play Herrera at 6 with Bakayoko.
 
What are the differences between this guy and Kondogbia? All I know both are physically strong, tall and athletic.
 
What are the differences between this guy and Kondogbia? All I know both are physically strong, tall and athletic.
Bakayoko is a physically imposing ball winner. He presses well and likes to nick the ball from opponents. He's a reasonable ball carrier as well but not the best.
Kondogbia has slipped off my radar a bit since I saw him at Monaco, where I thought he was a good, if inconsistent player. He's more of an attacking player, somewhat like Pogba in the way he uses his frame to protect the ball in midfield and his long stride, but ultimately inferior to his French compatriot.
 
Should learn from the Schneiderlin signing that you need quality on the ball to play for United. Have never seen this guy play like most here but doubt he has it.
I love stuff like this, jesus christ. 'Never seen him but doubt he's got what we need, based on absolutely nothing'.
 
Bakayoko is a physically imposing ball winner. He presses well and likes to nick the ball from opponents. He's a reasonable ball carrier as well but not the best.
Kondogbia has slipped off my radar a bit since I saw him at Monaco, where I thought he was a good, if inconsistent player. He's more of an attacking player, somewhat like Pogba in the way he uses his frame to protect the ball in midfield and his long stride, but ultimately inferior to his French compatriot.
Cheers!
 
Seem like Chelsea also interested in him. If we're really interested in him, rather wrap this up quickly than dragging out and stuck with Fellaini as the best back up for our starters
 

If United really goes for those two players, I wonder if that would make United one if not the most physically imposing teams in the league?

I like Mou's latest trend of adding physically imposing players and combine that with what United already have like Mata and Herrera. Adding more steel to the team.
 
As I have never seen Bakayoko play it's a bit silly for me to comment. Going off the Squawka article @kr0nix shared though, it seems as though Mou is going to change our style next season. If Carrick is a fencing sword, this fella sounds like a war hammer! :lol:
 
Should learn from the Schneiderlin signing that you need quality on the ball to play for United. Have never seen this guy play like most here but doubt he has it.

Never seen him play but can make a judgement on his ability.... Why even bother making that post?
 
I think Bakayoko's signing can potentially give us an option to potentially switch back to a 2 man midfield with Pogba. Also, if we were to sell Schneiderlin, we would be short on CDM options, especially if Carrick were to get injured, so he would add much needed squad depth.
 
I don't see the point of Bakayoko, if we wanted that kind of player we should develop the one we already have who seems suited to the role already (Fosu Mensah).
 
I think his agent/club are using us to justify raising his asking price.. I don't think we're signing anyone in this transfer window
 
I don't see the point of Bakayoko, if we wanted that kind of player we should develop the one we already have who seems suited to the role already (Fosu Mensah).
Did you watch TFM's 15 minutes vs Reading? The guy is all over the place when we're without possession. This Bakayoko guy is a starter for Monaco who stormed Liague 1 as well as playing well in CL. I doubt that you even follow TFM that regularly, let alone this Bakayoko.
 
Did you watch TFM's 15 minutes vs Reading? The guy is all over the place when we're without possession. This Bakayoko guy is a starter for Monaco who stormed Liague 1 as well as playing well in CL. I doubt that you even follow TFM that regularly, let alone this Bakayoko.
Bakayoko has been at Monaco for 3 seasons, I doubt he was as good as he currently is back then. What made him this good in his role is playing time in his role. TFM has played probably less than 5 games in midfield for us, if we allow him more time, I think he could be just as good. Positioning in midfield comes with time and practice, he was all over the place because he was eager to prove something in the little time he had and if we allow him more time we will reap the rewards.
 
Bakayoko has been at Monaco for 3 seasons, I doubt he was as good as he currently is back then. What made him this good in his role is playing time in his role. TFM has played probably less than 5 games in midfield for us, if we allow him more time, I think he could be just as good. Positioning in midfield comes with time and practice, he was all over the place because he was eager to prove something in the little time he had and if we allow him more time we will reap the rewards.
Bakayoko was a poor man Yaya when he started there and fell out with their previous coach. Makelele took a coaching role with Monaco and helped him change his game. Bakayoko didn't play that much until this season, so it's not like he has had plenty of chance to try and try again. Sometimes, another player's just more talented.

TFM may improve, but there is no evidence central midfield is his role. The way he looks, he may end up as CB, fullback. Can't rely on him suddenly realize his position when we clearly need midfielder back up than relied on Fellaini.

Players constantly get assessed by coaches during training. At times I feel like people here try to sound as the players need game time just for us to assess them properly. Not every our own youngster is a Pogba. Seem like after the Pogba incident ,people are too eager to throw in youngster for the sake of it even though it's clear as day if they watch youth football sometimes that Pogba was a special case. Someone like TFM is not on the same mold.
 
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