Thoughts on Tuchel as a potential United manager?

Would you appoint Thomas Tuchel as the next Manchester United manager?

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bosskeano said:
and there lies the main issue....no real top class manager is out there at the moment

you have the main up and coming types like De Zerbi, Alonso and Amorim....all three play a nice style of football and are getting more from their teams than the talent level they have

the links with Southgate concern me as well simply bc he's a national team coach and not an every day manager
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The Southgate links just aren't going away unfortunately,completely agree about those managers you mentioned. I do have concerns with the hidings De Zerbi has taken this season though. Only reason I would like Tuchel is feel he can get us back into that top 4, we would then be a more attractive proposition to Alonso/Nagelsmann heck maybe even Zidane but highly doubt that one.
 
davidmichael said:
A panic decision would have been at the end of last season when our form declined rapidly after winning the league cup, instead we allowed ETH to pick our transfers to suit a system he wanted and spent another £200 million whilst moving on players he didn’t want to the point that 50% of the squad our his signings alone.

We’re about to finish in our worst ever league position of the PL era, bottom of the easiest CL group, dominated at home by everyone we play, the worst defensive stats in the league, a minus GD and getting worse as the seasons gone on so that isn’t a panic decision.



Do you mean Mourinho ? If so we signed him years too late as he was ruined mentally by Real and his second spell at Chelsea by the time he came to United, the time to bring Mourinho in was when Sir Alex retired as Mourinho was still a big draw for players, we were league champions and the biggest club in the country and Mourinho would have most likely got us another league title before he inevitably imploded with his usual third season syndrome.
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Yeah remember thinking when he was appointed in 2016 I really hope that Chelsea sacking hasn't scarred you. Unfortunately for us it had and he should have came here in 2013.
 
People are going way overboard regarding Tuchel’s style of play. I don’t think it’s that bad at all. He’s no klopp but he’s no Mourinho either. Far from it.
 
croadyman said:
The Southgate links just aren't going away unfortunately,completely agree about those managers you mentioned. I do have concerns with the hidings De Zerbi has taken this season though. Only reason I would like Tuchel is feel he can get us back into that top 4, we would then be a more attractive proposition to Alonso/Nagelsmann heck maybe even Zidane but highly doubt that one.
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i just don't think he's got the day to day experience to manager United nor the tactical nous it requires to do the job

Brighton have taken a few beatings but to be fair they've also sold their best players over the past two summers and still have less defeats than United plus his team plays a better brand of football and certianly are way more organized than we are

i forgot about Zidane but i suspect he's waiting for the France job

see...i'm the opposite. why wait and hope that a guy like tuchel can get us back into the top 4. Throw the money at one of those guys and let him do the rebuild and by some proper young players who they can mold into a team. I mean we need a proper rebuild of talent so let a young manager do that with younger players
 
kaku06 said:
People are going way overboard regarding Tuchel’s style of play. I don’t think it’s that bad at all. He’s no klopp but he’s no Mourinho either. Far from it.
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Yeah think he is capable of adapting but no Erik's biggest supporters won't believe that's possible
 
bosskeano said:
i just don't think he's got the day to day experience to manager United nor the tactical nous it requires to do the job

Brighton have taken a few beatings but to be fair they've also sold their best players over the past two summers and still have less defeats than United plus his team plays a better brand of football and certianly are way more organized than we are

i forgot about Zidane but i suspect he's waiting for the France job

see...i'm the opposite. why wait and hope that a guy like tuchel can get us back into the top 4. Throw the money at one of those guys and let him do the rebuild and by some proper young players who they can mold into a team. I mean we need a proper rebuild of talent so let a young manager do that with younger players
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Yeah look at the fact Southgate got relegated in his last club job which was 15 years ago. I get your point about appointing a young manager, my only concern is I feel this job needs someone with a bit of experience at the moment hence why I would like to see Tuchel appointed after FA Cup Final.
 
kaku06 said:
People are going way overboard regarding Tuchel’s style of play. I don’t think it’s that bad at all. He’s no klopp but he’s no Mourinho either. Far from it.
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People are exclusively thinking about Chelsea.
 
kaku06 said:
People are going way overboard regarding Tuchel’s style of play. I don’t think it’s that bad at all. He’s no klopp but he’s no Mourinho either. Far from it.
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Yeah maybe, I just think he was a snooze fest at Chelsea.
 
croadyman said:
Yeah think he is capable of adapting but no Erik's biggest supporters won't believe that's possible
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They have created a narrative in their heads that he’s the disciple of Jose Mourinho and Antonio Conte when in reality he’s a really flexible manager who adjusts accordingly. I didn’t see this park the bus manager when he was at Chelsea or at psg or anywhere. He might be pragmatic in some games but as a manager he’s not ultra defensive. If we appoint him we would play the best football under him post fergie I’m sure of that.
 
VP89 said:
Yeah maybe, I just think he was a snooze fest at Chelsea.
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Would hope he doesn't try and BS them about being willing to fit into what INEOS wants to do and giving youth players an opportunity too. Mind you Erik did that with his interview
 
VP89 said:
Yeah maybe, I just think he was a snooze fest at Chelsea.
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I do believe that was more down to personnel than anything else. They hired an attacking coach in potter and looked shambles in attack and don’t look great either now with Poch and I’d argue Tuchel had lesser quality than them.
 
All the mood music is that they want a head coach who slots into the house style, not an egotist. Potter seems more likely than either Southgate or Tuchel.
 
glazed said:
All the mood music is that they want a head coach who slots into the house style, not an egotist. Potter seems more likely than either Southgate or Tuchel.
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Tuchel is the only one in that list that has actually employed multiple styles and adapted to what he has.
 
JPRouve said:
Tuchel is the only one in that list that has actually employed multiple styles and adapted to what he has.
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Sure but do INEOS want a maverick? That's not their vibe at all.
 
Tuchel just seems like the best bet to me for at least a couple of seasons. I think the setup United are aiming for is the type of setup he wants to work under as well.
 
OsloRed said:
Tuchel just seems like the best bet to me for at least a couple of seasons. I think the setup United are aiming for is the type of setup he wants to work under as well.
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Yeah that's exactly what I would like to happen
 
Doesn't matter if it is Tuchel or someone else, I want Erik out of this club and he brings all his signings along for half price. I don't think Tuchel will be bad and I think he has the ability to make this a top 4 club for sure.
 
Tuchel is the man + winner + ‘big club’ manager

Lesser managers will be eaten alive at this club
 
JPRouve said:
Tuchel is the only one in that list that has actually employed multiple styles and adapted to what he has.
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That’s exactly why I want him. We have a bunch of players who have only adapted best to Oles first two seasons counter attacking philosophy .Tuchel will also organise this defence, Something that badly needs addressing. Under ETH why are wide open and easy to play against. As much as I would love a Motta who is going Juve. Our players would struggle to adapt to his style of play and it will end badly like this season under ETH.
 
glazed said:
I read that he annoyed Bayern bosses by offending the club higher ups. There were similar stories at Chelsea.
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The article tells you that Bayern bosses were annoyed because his suggestions were "too creative" not because he threw anything out of a pram. The article essentially tells you that it is Bayern bosses that got their feeling hurt and decided to air it out as they generally do. And Bayern squad was thin which is why they went and added three players.

The second article is also not an example of Tuchel throwing his toys out of the pram, if anything it would apply to Boehly. How many competitive managers would accept or even understand the idea of random people being given a tour of the dressing room at half time of a league game, as if it isn't an important time where players and managers are focused on recovering and giving/taking instructions. At the end of a victory it would be one thing but at half time?
 
I think a poll would be good here

Same options as the Southgate one, to see how people feel about this one?

Tuchel is likely to be the heavy favourite if Ten Hag is gone in 2 weeks
 
Ratcliffe should be on the phone yesterday trying to tying him down somehow before something stupid happens - like him staying at Bayern. The options left if Tuchel is out are from mid to downright depressing.

Unless INEOS have other plans, that is...
 
OsloRed said:
Tuchel just seems like the best bet to me for at least a couple of seasons. I think the setup United are aiming for is the type of setup he wants to work under as well.
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He got annoyed when Boehly and co forced him to be a bigger part of transfers and squad building. He just wants to coach. INEOS apparently want someone who just sticks to the coaching. Seems like the most sensible choice for a year or two until someone special becomes available.
 
Tuchel for 2 seasons before someone younger like Iraola, McKenna etc arrives seems like an okay plan.
 
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