In fairness, he was always shit. LVG is, like, dreamy.
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I'd go along with that.
He's not the biggest and he was a major reason Drogba bullied Arsenal year after year.
It's not just that, he's also absolutely horrendous positionally. Also spends half his time injured.
I'd quite like to sign Vermaelen. Not because he's especially brilliant but just because I know some Arsenal fans who still haven't got over the whole saga of us buying their last captain...
Could be a decent buy IF we don't overpay and IF he can stay fit. Adding another injury prone defender to an already injury prone defense ain't the obvious move to make, one could say.
Still, he could be the sort who'll get a boost from a career move, plus the sort to thrive under VG's guidance.
Still, he could be the sort who'll get a boost from a career move, plus the sort to thrive under VG's guidance.
That's what bother me, the fact that we are maybe purchasing a good player, out of form, injury prone and lacking of confidence.
I really think that he is a good player, but he isn't a fighter and can't stay fit, with Arsenal.
Sound like if we signed Lilian Thuram here !
Don't forget that Vermaelen wasn't playing under Wenger last two seasons.... So if he was a flop at Arsenal, he will be at United.
He's never a good signing especially when he's due to replace Rio and Vida !
Don't forget that Vermaelen wasn't playing under Wenger last two seasons.... So if he was a flop at Arsenal, he will be at United.
He's never a good signing especially when he's due to replace Rio and Vida !
You're arguing that LVG is being afforded too much blind trust, as opposed to Moyes. I pointed out that blind trust is required if you're going to hire a manager, and especially a manager of Van Gaal's class. Moyes also deserved blind trust, but a lot of it was based on SAF's decision to appoint him as his successor, rather than his CV.
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Maybe LVG will convert him to a defensive midfielder?
Van Gaal can sign whatever obscure Dutch player he likes without any criticism or judgement from me because I wouldn't know enough to even give an opinion. We've all seen enough of Vermaelen over the years here though, he's not very good.
Big possibility this is bumped in a years time to laugh at the doubters, but we can only judge on what we've seen - I am definitely not a fan.
Big possibility this is bumped in a years time to laugh at the doubters, but we can only judge on what we've seen - I am definitely not a fan.
Fairly odd move on Wenger's part, though, surely? Has he given up on the man completely? He'll need backup options, you'd think. More bother for him in the window.
So 5 CBs + keane and 4 fullbacks ?
So, conversally, if a player is good for one big club then automatically they will be good at another big club ?
There will be more chances for sure.
RVP came on fire from Arsenal, and had a top top season.
Vermaelen barely played the last two season and you think he'll be a Sergio Ramos ?
Second Arsenal captain in a row to move to United
They should give the armband to Sanogoals next in case it's an ongoing trend.
They should give the armband to Sanogoals next in case it's an ongoing trend.
Times going with it too. Apparently Vermaelen and RVP are close?
Excellent cover, if he stays fit. Signing makes sense to me.
They'll be even closer next season given how fond Vermaelen seems to be of just rushing forward aimlessly.
You would think so. Same agent too.
Sergio Ramos is shit, and there is absolutely no logic in what you're saying the best player in the world can be a flop and worst a success.
Vermaelen lack of confidence has a great role in his performances, playing in a different set up with a different can him make a better player.
Or he can still be average.
Let's hope not
But I didn't say that, all I was getting across was that there is exactly the same chance that Vermaelen turns a corner as there is him staying in a bad run of form. Just as there is when a player transfers when on a good run of form. Some players need a change of scenery, for others it is the worst thing that can happen.
Ever the optimist I think it will be a good investment. If it is to go through.
He wants to leave Arsenal for first team football, so you'd assume he won't be cover and in that case he isn't good enough.
I think he can prove to be an astute signing. Surely Arsenal fans can't be happy, their club has evolved into Manchester's feeder club.
Not having a go at you, but what exactly was his "style" of play which he was trying to implement in his 10 months with us? Cross them to death?
This signing is more akin to Silvestre type situation than Van Persie.
They've lost Sagna already to a rival, this has become such a regular occurrence now for Arsenal. And Vermaelen looks set to be brought in as a starter for Manchester United, not a squad option like Silvestre.
All this style talk is pure speculation. You won't know how Van Gaal will line us up until he's worked with the players and made an educated decision; he's that kind of man. With regards to Moyes, the evidence to prove my point is all there to be read on this website. Plenty of people wanted him out before he had even been given the chance to prove he wasn't the right man.
In which case Arsenal have played a blinder.
We don't know that yet though, do we? He lost his place through Koscielny and Mertesacker forming a strong partnership, I guarantee Wenger won't be happy to see Vermaelen leave.
I am not saying that many were against the guy and didn't want him here, me included. But most were then ready to give him a chance. Difference between Moyes and LvG is one was a manager of an upper midtable team in the EPL for 10 years while the other is actually recognized as someone who implements a system that is based on playing good football first and foremost.
Plus one. The idea of buying Arsenal captains amuse me to a whole new level.
I dont think Arse fans will care about us getting him similar to us not caring when they went for Silvestre
I really hope to see Ramsey named captain at some point.
Probably because he had never won anything worth a damn. With LvG, we have concrete evidence that his methods work.
I wouldn't say they don't care, more they aren't overly concerned. It does leave them light at the back, and it is their nth captain to leave.
Gunner fans will riot if they lose another captain to us.
That said, this might be Wenger's way of finally changing the captain.
That said, this might be Wenger's way of finally changing the captain.
Well, they should. Henry, Fabregas, RVP, and now Vermalen. Not to mention Fabregas' transfer to their biggest rival ( or one of them). Strange pattern there, and it's amazing when joking with your Arsenal supporting friends
City will need a midfielder once Yaya goes. I bet Wilshere is next
Haven't seen this posted, apologies if I missed it.
And relax.
And relax.
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