Is that a real life figure? Surely you have more money in the kitty.
Thomas Meunier
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Is that a real life figure? Surely you have more money in the kitty.
Makes too much sense this signing so cant possibly happen:
Supports United
Cheap (ish)
Much better than what we have.
Slight negative is that he isnt 50 million plus and he doesnt come with a massive media hype.
Supports United
Cheap (ish)
Much better than what we have.
Slight negative is that he isnt 50 million plus and he doesnt come with a massive media hype.
No, the slight negative is that he's an average footballer.
You play 352 lot of times and this guy is a much better fit. Makes sense !
@Mogget I’m wondering this too. I’ve heard it mentioned about, but how can a team like Arsenal only have a 40mil Transfer budget? Is there debt I don’t know about or has it all been blown on Auba,Lacazette and Ozil’s wages. Just seems crazy to me that a top 6 team in the prem would be limited to so little.
Anyway as much as I would like Bissaka again this is one of those signings that makes sense when there are a lot of things that need looking at for United. He and Rabiot for a combined spend of day 30mil hopefully leaving funds to be spent elsewhere on the team. Like CB or CM or RW or something.
Well if they get him that's half their transfer budget gone. I think they have more pressing issues like getting a good CB and some decent midfielders.
Can't understand why we have not signed him yet. Great player, perfect age, supports Utd, only 25m...
Passive aggressive? Was just sarcasm pal.Because he is not our first choice and at the end of the day would essentially be a band aid until Dalot figures out how to defend or Laird breaks through to the first team and then he will be Darmian all over again, overpaid and not playing.
He is a very good, functional player who would improve us.
We're probably considering Bissaka and Cancelo which could be nothing but a good news in the end. Perhaps also players under the radar and outside the spotlight ?
Can't remember when we were so intensively linked to so many good fullbacks.
No, he isn't, people are expecting way too much of him.
Why?
Because that heap of shit is leaving? He doesn't play and was always leaving.
That's what David Ornstein is reporting and he's pretty reliable when it comes to Arsenal. I've got no idea why we have so little to spend but I guess it's due to us being in the Europa League and the big contracts we've given out recently
Maybe Ed is trying to swap him for Darmian. Otherwise, why is this taking so long?
Agreed mate. Let's put it this way... If we actually have the speculated 200m to spend then we could buy Felix, Bissaka, James and that's probably it. My belief is that we need to reinforce in so many areas that we take the bargains that WILL IMPROVE us where we can. 25m for Meunier, then the same for Alderwerield, and a free Rabiot would leave us even more money to play with. Spunking our whole load on three players won't do it. I'd rather sign a load of solid players that improve on what we already have instead of a few hundred million on two or three players. Feck that.
But that approach is one that keeps you competitive in the top 6 but won't do anything to close the gap on City and Liverpool. I would far rather buy 2 or 3 great players than 5 or 6 good ones. If we get Meunier I won't be mad about it but AWB is already a much better defender and has a far higher ceiling so we should go all in for the best player. Signing Meunier would say to me that the critics are right about the Glazers being happy with chasing 4th and CL money and not really caring about winning the league.
This really is a deal that should’ve already been wrapped up. Annoying.
The positive is that Young’s a below average footballer, so he would improve us
I'd be inclined to agree under most normal circumstances but we are way, WAY, WAAAY off City and Liverpool. We cannot hope to sign 2 or 3 players and catch them up. The base squad need improving before we add some superstars, then maybe we can catch them up. Also, I would be very worried about spending 120m on a teenage player with one good season in the dutch/portugese league under his belt. I guarantee that so many of the fans clamouring for these players would start crying at the first sign of a wobble. I don't want us to do flavour of the month signings. We need solid improvements, even if they aren't the best in the world.
I actually agree with you that I'd rather AWB but at £75m and quite limited going forward? So many of these guys clamouring for AWB also talk about the "United Way" and attacking fullbacks... Well, he certainly isn't fecking one of them.
TM for 25m (leaving us 175m more to spend) or AWB for 75m (leaving us 100m more to spend)? I bet you'd then want us to sign Sancho? ... there's your last 100m. Goodby transfer window and hello still having a weak squad
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He is a very good attacking fullback. If you'd rather a defensive FB, then fine ... he doesn't fit the bill. But as far as overlapping, attacking FBs go (you know, the UNITED WAY) then he really fits the bill. Get a fecking grip man and don't be such a crybaby.
There’s more than one person involved in a transfer deal.
So signing Meunier would signal a lack of ambition... I’ve no idea how you came to that conclusion.
AWB is one of the most overrated players I can remember.
How old is Danny alves... 36?
If he hangs round for a year he will probably be first choice then anyway so if he's really settled in Paris why not stay
Club better have a good RB lined up if they don't sign this guy. Under no circumstances should Young be stating games next season.
This is my point ... We spend all window chasing AWB and then when we don't get him, Meunier is gone. Then all the Cry-Babies that think we are god blessed for all the best players in the world, will cry that we didn't sign anybody to improve on Young...
This is a good signing for us. He improves us a lot, we can get it wrapped up quick and it should be cheap. Do it, get it done, forget the Fantasy Football morons and move on to sign better players in the many, many other positions we actually need.
I've said this before and I don't want to come across like a broken record but in all fairness these are the sorts of comments levelled at Liverpool when buying players from Southampton, Roma, Newcastle and Hull.
If we get 2 or 3 top quality signings, that may be fine, particularly if they click right away and are in the right positions. However 5 signings of a good quality could also provide a wider boost in squad quality and there may always be a couple of them who really click.
As always, hindsight will be a wonderful thing come about December. Signing the likes of Meunier, Maddison, Alderweireld, James and one or two others aren't earth shattering in terms of budget and may give us what we need to go on and get closer to the top 2. If we signed them and then made third then it would give us a much stronger foundation to go and add some real stardust next year.
We're not really in a position where we're looking for the cherry on top, we need to put a good base in for the coming season. I honestly don't expect us to challenge for 2-3 years and spending 100 million plus on hopeful signings may well just push us further back.
I've seen an awful lot of transfer snobbery aimed Liverpool's way over the last 3 years or so.
Ultimately there is no way to be certain how any of these deals will work out should they go through. My biggest concern with Meunier is that he is a converted winger and really no better defensively than our current options and in case it has been forgotten our defence was atrocious this season. AWB would improve the defence and I actually believe can become a very good attacking fullback in a season or two, Andy Robertson had no track record as an attacking FB at Hull for example. In terms of first team appearances there is little difference between Dalot and AWB and yet we seem certain Dalot can learn to defend but nobody thinks AWB can improve as an attacking force. To restate from previous posts, AWB is very comfortable on the ball but was specifically tasked with playing a defensive role at Palace because PVA liked to bomb forward on the left, I am certain AWB could be effective in attack and certainly better than Young if he was given the opportunity to do so.
In terms of the 2 or 3 big signings as opposed to 6 good signings I guess it depends on what you want. If we are trying to fix all of our issues in one window then by all means take the latter option but I don't think it is how you build for the long term. We need to be thinking 3 or 4 windows before we are seriously challenging again and so securing 2 or 3 world class talents this summer is a great place to start, If we added AWB and de Ligt then we would immediately be much more solid at the back and that alone would be worth a few more points, factor in how much better our midfield would play when they are not constantly panicking that if they lose possession we will concede and it would give us a nice platform to kick on.
In terms of the 2 or 3 big signings as opposed to 6 good signings I guess it depends on what you want. If we are trying to fix all of our issues in one window then by all means take the latter option but I don't think it is how you build for the long term. We need to be thinking 3 or 4 windows before we are seriously challenging again and so securing 2 or 3 world class talents this summer is a great place to start, If we added AWB and de Ligt then we would immediately be much more solid at the back and that alone would be worth a few more points, factor in how much better our midfield would play when they are not constantly panicking that if they lose possession we will concede and it would give us a nice platform to kick on.
Maybe AWB don't want to move this season. Things change very quickly but looks like he will stay at Crystal Palace for at least one more season.
Great post
Good post, agree with most of what you said. We have too many gaps just to concentrate on 2-3 signings.
I watched a fair bit of Hull back then and it was obvious Robertson was quality. He was a buzzsaw down the left and Hull’s only consistent threat along with Brady when fit.
AWB has shown nothing of the sort and there’s absolutely nothing to suggest he’ll suddenly improve technically at his age. It’s just wishful thinking.
Meunier would be a far better and far smarter signing for us.
Sorry folks. This one isn't happening. Off to City/Juve/Barca.
So apparently good enough for city / Juv / Barca but not good enough for us.
The absolute state of this. The guy is a champions league quality RB and is cheap.
On top of a RB We still need a CB, CM (possibly 2), RW, cover at LW and RW. Possibly a striker.
@EngimaMK im absolutely with you on this. This guy, aldervierld, rabiot - all quality and all getable. Then we can blow 100 mils+ on a forward.
With a few youth players coming through I think the team would be looking pretty good then potentially.
AWB has clearly stated his intent to stay at palace. I hope we are not doing typical dilly dallying hoping that he's still available.
Let's just please get this basic thing sorted. Can't see young staring for us at RB anymore.
Let's just please get this basic thing sorted. Can't see young staring for us at RB anymore.
I like Meunier a lot. Really great personality and intelligent. He's sending a lot of mixed signals for PSG... I definitely think he's openly trolling/taking the piss and it's definitely not even a agent manoeuvre or whatever
As a player, he's a decent positional and physical defender. I think he can be at fault on first steps from speed merchant wingers but he's a fighter and able to put a shift in.
Offensively, he's a very good on counter attack and receiving first pass out of defence to go for the transition from defense to attack. I absolutely love him on that particular point.
I think with negociations having a 28yo starter ready fullback when you have Ashley Young for 25 millions euros in this market... You have to go for it.
As a player, he's a decent positional and physical defender. I think he can be at fault on first steps from speed merchant wingers but he's a fighter and able to put a shift in.
Offensively, he's a very good on counter attack and receiving first pass out of defence to go for the transition from defense to attack. I absolutely love him on that particular point.
I think with negociations having a 28yo starter ready fullback when you have Ashley Young for 25 millions euros in this market... You have to go for it.
This is a really good post. It is really difficult to take a team to the next level. I remember how Ranieri struggled at Chelsea and Hughes at City. It takes time to build a solid squad. Patience and wise recruitment is needed.
Where did you get this from? Those teams haven't been linked to him at all.