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Thought breeze had him
I was pretty fecking impressed.
NXT goes for competition
WWE goes for comedy.
Yeah
WWE goes for comedy.
Yeah
What am I watching? This is dire.
WWE really needs to go back to joint brand PPV's. This just seems like an extra episode of Smackdown this week as much as the other events seem like an extra Raw that week. The only differences are you don't get them showing all the foreign announcers half way through the show and Smackdown 2 becomes an hour longer.
I honestly don't mind the extra PPV events as long as they are worth watching. Actually it's great as the Network only being £9.99 it's even better since Sky now only show 3 free a year, but the PPV's have been stale for too long. It's a real shame as with two strong brands and now quite often with 2 PPV's a month they have the perfect opportunity to really mix things up. Have all the PPV events feature matches from both brands. Have feuds from the regular shows play out at the PPV and have cross brand feuds start and play out on the PPV's as well. Have the titles swap sides and not be brand specific and have the wrestlers invade the other shows.
Feck, there's so much they could do instead they just churn out the same old shit all the time with few surprises and equally few memorable matches let alone stellar events. I suppose Vince doesn't give a shit all the time he has sell out shows week after week and even bigger sell out PPV events and as long as the Network subscriptions keep mounting up.
WWE really needs to go back to joint brand PPV's. This just seems like an extra episode of Smackdown this week as much as the other events seem like an extra Raw that week. The only differences are you don't get them showing all the foreign announcers half way through the show and Smackdown 2 becomes an hour longer.
I honestly don't mind the extra PPV events as long as they are worth watching. Actually it's great as the Network only being £9.99 it's even better since Sky now only show 3 free a year, but the PPV's have been stale for too long. It's a real shame as with two strong brands and now quite often with 2 PPV's a month they have the perfect opportunity to really mix things up. Have all the PPV events feature matches from both brands. Have feuds from the regular shows play out at the PPV and have cross brand feuds start and play out on the PPV's as well. Have the titles swap sides and not be brand specific and have the wrestlers invade the other shows.
Feck, there's so much they could do instead they just churn out the same old shit all the time with few surprises and equally few memorable matches let alone stellar events. I suppose Vince doesn't give a shit all the time he has sell out shows week after week and even bigger sell out PPV events and as long as the Network subscriptions keep mounting up.
Enjoyed that match. Shocked with the result.
Aside from Nakamura vs Ziggler I don't think tonight has been that disappointing..
Mahal is a mfing giant
My god this has been awful. Someone needs to remind me not to watch the nxt ppv before the wwe offering.
Can't tell if that finish was intentional or just a major feck up..
The Maharaja!
Hahaha.
So how is Raw doing?
You can't hinder the Jinder!!!
Also that was 3 hours of my life i can't get back.
Also that was 3 hours of my life i can't get back.
Am I the only one who is not upset that Jinder won?
We've got Leicester and RB Leipzig doing the impossible in a real sport. Surely, such shock can happen in real life, then why are people so upset that it happened in a fake sport?
I have not seen such a disappointed crowd since Lesnar pinned Taker clean at Wrestlemania. So, I am pretty pleased.
We've got Leicester and RB Leipzig doing the impossible in a real sport. Surely, such shock can happen in real life, then why are people so upset that it happened in a fake sport?
I have not seen such a disappointed crowd since Lesnar pinned Taker clean at Wrestlemania. So, I am pretty pleased.
For me it's more the fact they have had 5 title changes since the brand split. Just too many. No title in wwe means anything anymore. Take the womens one for example, it's now a case that if you are a women on the roster chances are you are getting a turn with a belt. No way Alexa should of been winning both titles considering how green she is in the ring.
In fact, I agree with you. I feel that the wrestlers should have held the title for a little longer with fewer title changes.
I thin that's the way WWE handles their booking now. They are afraid that a new and upcoming challenger loses credibility. For instance, if Jinder were to lose to Orton just now and loses again, then people won't take Jinder seriously and he won't have anything meaningful to do from then on (they invested a lot in Jinder since they brought in the Singh Brothers to support him). And Jinder can't fight for the US Title since they are prepared to put KO there for a very long time.
I would prefer Orton to be still the top guy and have the heels (Jinder, Rusev and Corbin) revolve around him before one of them takes the belt from him at Summerslam. Personally, I don't see any of the heels' credibility being hurt if they were to lose to Orton two to three times. Jericho jobbed to Triple H a few times in 2000 and still won the undisputed championship in 2001.
Orton bores me and shouldnt have beaten Bray at WM imo.
Jinder is being given a chance like JBL was a decade ago. Lets see how he does, but he does look like a genuine heel which is what WWE needs more of.
Jinder is being given a chance like JBL was a decade ago. Lets see how he does, but he does look like a genuine heel which is what WWE needs more of.
The problem with Jinder is there was no build what so ever, he went from jobber to world champion in 4 weeks.....its fecking ridiculous.
Smackdown was great before the split, ive never seen something go to shit as fast its crap now.
Smackdown was great before the split, ive never seen something go to shit as fast its crap now.
...sigh
I partly blame WWE for helping build an alien culture tbh.
This is why I never enjoyed foreign heels coming to the fold, Alberto Del Rio being another one. Great Wrestler but WWE wanted to play on his Mexican heritage and put a negative spin on it.
That's all Vince's dinosaur bullshit.
Hey remember when they were so resistant to Daniel Bryan winning the title, no reservations about Jinder though. Seriously I'm done, I'll be back when they do AJ vs Nakamura.
Jinder will make $$$ for them right now. It won't be a long term push I think.
He really won't. Short term boosts are much harder to come by unless they inadvertently create a meme and quickly slap it on a T-shirt ala Elsworth. Jinder is really the cherry on the shit cake, indicative of larger problem overall as well as the final mark of Smackdown's descent from the A show to the mess it is now. He's not the only issue, but probably the one that's tipped it over the edge.
I'm unsure, I think they would have calculated the potential revenues from WWE India (launched end of March) when they were deciding to push him.
After seeing him main event and watching his reactions after, his mic skills in general and everything as a package, I genuinely think WWE could have done a lot worse.
It's an unpopular opinion but I'd rather see something fresh like Jinder and his sable rise as underdogs everyone hates than see Bray Wyatt dick around with candles and talk on a titantron for 3 weeks out of 4 leading up to a PPV.
The reactions of the fans after his win were priceless First time since probably Takers loss at WM that focusing on the crowd here and there has been magic.
Yeah I agree with @VP89 - its nice to see them give somebody else a try. Could it have been corbin? Sure. Could it have been somebody else? Of course
but its about timing. WWE network india launch and such, its worth trying.
TBH, hes been really good as an actual heel getting people to hate him. I just wish they wouldnt go on the crutch of "i hate USA cos im foreign" stuff. They can still have the Jinder vs the world but without using the obvious stuff because its not needed.
It is funny that he was basically a jobber next to Rusev months ago losing pretty much all matches but is now Champion.
Also funny how India have had 2 world champions and UK still hasnt had one
First time since probably Takers loss at WM that focusing on the crowd here and there has been magic.Yeah I agree with @VP89 - its nice to see them give somebody else a try. Could it have been corbin? Sure. Could it have been somebody else? Of course
but its about timing. WWE network india launch and such, its worth trying.
TBH, hes been really good as an actual heel getting people to hate him. I just wish they wouldnt go on the crutch of "i hate USA cos im foreign" stuff. They can still have the Jinder vs the world but without using the obvious stuff because its not needed.
It is funny that he was basically a jobber next to Rusev months ago losing pretty much all matches but is now Champion.
Also funny how India have had 2 world champions and UK still hasnt had one
Maybe it's intentional sabotage of Smackdown? Critically it was getting rave reviews and even beat Raw once or twice in the ratings which I don't think it's ever done.
Raw is the flagship show so knock Smackdown a few pegs to reaffirm that? Never know with Vince, he's batshit.
Raw is the flagship show so knock Smackdown a few pegs to reaffirm that? Never know with Vince, he's batshit.
The problem with Jinder is that he's so shit on the mic and boring in the ring, the only reason he's working as a heel is because of the reaction from the fans. The xenophobic sprinkling on top really doesn't help and is definitely being stirred up by the WWE in the promos, Vince should steer clear of that nonsense in 2017 but he never seems to learn.
There's just so many others that deserve the push more, Zayn must get a proper push at some point and would be a far more credible underdog story.
There's just so many others that deserve the push more, Zayn must get a proper push at some point and would be a far more credible underdog story.
How a company that put a show like Takeover just 2 days ago can put an aweful show like Baklash?
Here's an idea... Maybe give the main raw championship to someone who isn't a part timer.
Jinder Mahal.......... jesus.
That being said Orton was achieving nothing but boredom with his title reign so at least Jinder is something different. Annoying that AJs title run and Cenas quest to equal Flairs record were both wasted to hotshot the belt to Bray for Orton to win it from him.
That being said Orton was achieving nothing but boredom with his title reign so at least Jinder is something different. Annoying that AJs title run and Cenas quest to equal Flairs record were both wasted to hotshot the belt to Bray for Orton to win it from him.
I realise it's terrible faux-pas to quote yourself but I'm just doing so in this instance to avoid typing it out again and showing that I agree with you!
So...
how long do we think the Jinderella story will last? Until summerslam? Drop it before? Just a month?
how long do we think the Jinderella story will last? Until summerslam? Drop it before? Just a month?
All the Indians at work spoke of nothing else than this today.
Until tomorrow. Randy rematch.
I hope Rusev comes out and beats up both men. Make it into a triple threat feud.
From what I've heard and read though, Mahal has worked extremely hard on himself and made the best out of whatever situations came his way. He wasn't given gimmicks he enjoyed but he rode it through and continued putting in the effort. I'm not going to lie, he's actually impressed me with his step up on the mic and playing in on the "underdog that everyone hates" angle.
The best thing about Mahal though, is during his feud he made it about the WWE title. He didn't put really force character spin on it too much. He just kept talking about how he wanted competition and kept saying it on Raw, and now he has the chance and wants the title to prove everyone wrong. The title was the biggest thing to put over and he did that in a rivalry - Austin used to say that too. Always put the title over if it's a title feud. It was so refreshing to see, because Bray was doing feck all in his run. Literally talking in riddles and blowing out candles on the screen. I forgot that he actually forgot the Randy match was for the WWE title at Wrestlemania and it shouldn't be that way. And then you have Brock who doesn't bother to turn up. The title means feck all on him too, for a Champion that barely ever defends the title. Feck right off.
Jinder has a lot of heat from the crowd and it's exactly what WWE wanted. A genuine heel. One who can get the entire stadium booing for him, which is already better than what Bray did. I've got no problem seeing Jinder continue for a bit and see where it goes. There are lots of permutations from this and it doesn't have to involve Randy. Giving the belt back to Orton is a one-way ticket to boringville.
He's not shit on the mic. He doesn't slurr and drives the point home. He works the crowd very well when he switches languages to wind them up further. As a heel he has little to work with by way of promos, especially with the short build up but on the whole he's done quite well on the mic.
Really good post especially the observation about how title feuds are supposed to be vs how they have been in the past. Talent wise I'm not certain at all if he can hold his end of the bargain and I feel like he should times the whole "foreign" gimmick down, but I'll be rooting for him to make the most out of it.