Did Cornette ever comment on Southpaw in any of his podcasts?
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Yes, I think he dismissed it straight away and said he didnt wanna talk about it or something.
Unless im mistaking that for his tweet where he called it horseshit
Poor Sami Zayn, been in two multiple mens matches and has eaten two pins
I remember reading somewhere that Khali was portrayed as a face during his heel run in India. Can someone verify this?
Owens is doing stellar work as the face of America from Canada. If they play on that with AJ Styles being the all American face of the people they could have something special. Of course the fact they're two of the best wrestlers in the company helps as well.
Well, I do know that when he visited India, he received a HUGE pop from the audience there. Even then, I'd attribute that to the fact that he was the first successful Indian in the WWE rather than a face. Only an Indian would confirm that.
Exactly. That whole Smackdown felt like an episode of Raw. Nothing made sense. You can even tell that the live audience were perplexed by the whole show, particularly that #1 contender's match.
I still think it's down to the Orton-Bray feud being left unfinished. Not only that, but Tye still has to resolve his own rivalry in NXT. Once those are over with by next week, the title situation should clear up, and we will see Nakamura and Dillinger get more of a push.
I just realised that Chris Hero's in NXT! 
Currently, Smackdown is trying to position the US Title as the Main title and the WWE Championship as the secondary title...
I have no idea why.
I have no idea why.
WWE title is still the big one but temporarily they're pushing Jinder to move merchandise ahead of the opening of the WWE shop in India. They can't have the top stars like KO or Styles feuding with Jinder because it would take away a lot of their newly built credibility, and its probably good for balance if they feud amongst themselves whilst India have their moment. That way the crowd can still enjoy mouth watering rivalries whilst Jinder is pushed on the side.
What I find annoying as feck is the constant image of having foreigners be the bad guy in WWE. It harbours a lot of hostility, particularly with the race Jinder is. It was a great opportunity to put a brown coloured Wrestler over as a face and create some acceptance for once. Bollywood Boys have a good gimmick and they could have had Jinder standing up to a bully backstage or whatever for the crowd to easily warm to him.
But then again, wwe creative is run by a bunch of ignorant rednecks who give zero fecks.
I guess this would be a terrible time to bring up how I wouldn't mind Mahal doing something similar to the Muhammad Hassan gimmick.
That was very well done at the time. A heel actively pointing out the hypocrisy of the crowd. It was good until they overdid it with the terrorist stuff.
So with the whole WWE title thing, would it not have made a lot more sense to have Wyatt retain the title at Mania, then move to RAW (I know this wouldn't work in the 'Superstar shake up', why would Smackdown trade the WWE title etc - But you could have just dressed that up as a 'Random draft'), then you've got Bray with the title, almost holding it hostage from Smackdown/Orton and the only way he'll give Orton another shot is in a house of horrors match. That way, there is actually a reason for Randy to accept this ridiculous match. Have Orton overcome the odds and then they move their separate ways on separate brands.
Would give a reason for the match, would make sense it being on a RAW PPV as it's technically a RAW title at that time. Easy to set up new feuds afterwards, Bray can be the man who lost RAW the title. Randy can be pressured by people before the match that he needs to bring the title back.
In the meantime, Styles going after the US Title would make more sense as it'd be the top title on SD.
It all just seems like a complete mess at the minute.
Would give a reason for the match, would make sense it being on a RAW PPV as it's technically a RAW title at that time. Easy to set up new feuds afterwards, Bray can be the man who lost RAW the title. Randy can be pressured by people before the match that he needs to bring the title back.
In the meantime, Styles going after the US Title would make more sense as it'd be the top title on SD.
It all just seems like a complete mess at the minute.
I thought Jinder Mahal was a fine choice. He looks good and is convincing on the mic. He is the type who has nothing to lose but everything to gain even if he loses to Orton. He is there to make sure that Baron Corbin and KO remain top heels.
I think they can build Jinder up by making him win a few matches till Backlash. WWE can build him in a believable manner by making him win with the help of Bollywood Boyz. He can still look believable even if he jobs to Orton. He can lose to Orton but he can beat down Orton brutally with the Bollywood Boyz after losing. They used to do post match beatdowns during the Ruthless Aggression era.
It is not the first time when someone becomes the #1 contender out of the blue. We had Big Bossman, Hardcore Holly fight for the championship before. Only JBL made it believable. The issue with the WWE right now is there are literally no low and mid card talents or feuds. Today's mid card consists of Zayn, Miz and these guys should be upper mid. Back then, we had feuds like Steiner vs Test and Kaientai vs Val Venis. In fact, other than Sami Zayn, the other contenders don't look even US champion worthy because none of them has ever won. The heel low and mid carders always lose. The face low and mid carders never appear.
WWE needs to not drop the ball with Jinder even if he does not win. He can lose to Orton but he can retain the Bollywood Boyz. Build up the low and mid card by having guys like Sin Cara have some meaningful feud. Thereafter, feed Sin Cara to Jinder. Then they can build Kinder up for the US championship.
I think they can build Jinder up by making him win a few matches till Backlash. WWE can build him in a believable manner by making him win with the help of Bollywood Boyz. He can still look believable even if he jobs to Orton. He can lose to Orton but he can beat down Orton brutally with the Bollywood Boyz after losing. They used to do post match beatdowns during the Ruthless Aggression era.
It is not the first time when someone becomes the #1 contender out of the blue. We had Big Bossman, Hardcore Holly fight for the championship before. Only JBL made it believable. The issue with the WWE right now is there are literally no low and mid card talents or feuds. Today's mid card consists of Zayn, Miz and these guys should be upper mid. Back then, we had feuds like Steiner vs Test and Kaientai vs Val Venis. In fact, other than Sami Zayn, the other contenders don't look even US champion worthy because none of them has ever won. The heel low and mid carders always lose. The face low and mid carders never appear.
WWE needs to not drop the ball with Jinder even if he does not win. He can lose to Orton but he can retain the Bollywood Boyz. Build up the low and mid card by having guys like Sin Cara have some meaningful feud. Thereafter, feed Sin Cara to Jinder. Then they can build Kinder up for the US championship.
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Sheamus is kinda another one who just kinda become number one contender, but moreso he went on and won the title from Cena which was a shock.
Also lol, people have called Jinder the following:
Hinder, Tinder, Kinder... lol
Also lol, people have called Jinder the following:
Hinder, Tinder, Kinder... lol
It's not an autocorrect friendly name.
Seamus joined as an animal though. He was just obliterating everyone until he beat Cena in a tables match. He was meant to be the face of the company at one point.
Jinder is a jobber and they're just knee jerk pushing him to up some sales in India ahead of their branch opening. Also, if Jinder does have to be a heel they could at least give him a fresh angle. Every foreign heel has to fecking act on his heritage to be a bad guy. Its boring.
You mean, "Hardbody" Jinder is finally unhindered? Our very own Jinder on Tinder, swipe right before he knocks out your light(s)?
For real thought, the Six Pack challenge is Shane's version of Teddy Longs Tag Team Match Playa
Well, yeah. Pretty much.
Kinda reminds me of that one week they tried to make Ascension look like something of a believable threat.
At least with Jinder he has Bollywood Boys helping him out so its the numbers game.
That and he can actually be a villain rather than a cool heel.
Plus as most said, hes just here to take up time. Id rather it be him getting a month feud and losing to Orton than Corbin or the like.
No wonder Jinder won it.
Good points
There does seem to be a lot of last minute changes. That's why I agree that it is a complete mess now.
Wasn't Styles supposed to go over to RAW to save the RAW ratings?
Why would Bray be happy to be traded to RAW when he is supposed to challenge Orton for a rematch?
In fact, I think that Smackdown can do without a World Champion. It may make sense to put Lesnar and the Universal Title on Smackdown since Smackdown is much shorter and they have guys like Styles, Owens and Cobin. I think despite Brock being a part-timer, they see too much draw in Lesnar and he is needed to pull up the RAW ratings.
Yeah, it was tough typing "Jinder" on the mobile phone.
I doubt Jinder will drive up sales, even in India.
Don't hinder the Jinder.
TBF I was impressed with his mic skills yesterday.
The Great Khali > Jinder
I don't understand a word of what he's saying and it's still the best promo of the year.
Anyone see Raw? What a mess... complete waste of time. Kalisto was the only good part in it and that says a lot!
There are some good things that could be done with the rosta on Raw. Got guys like Joe,Balor,Rollins,Ambrose and well Reigns
Kinda feel tho even with the loss of Charlotte the woman's division just went from stale to alive again. Was really impressed with Alexa on Smackdown and I can't stand Bailly. Are her promos supposed to be like that or is she just rubbish?
Kinda feel tho even with the loss of Charlotte the woman's division just went from stale to alive again. Was really impressed with Alexa on Smackdown and I can't stand Bailly. Are her promos supposed to be like that or is she just rubbish?
She comes across as a nice girl who seems to genuinely be in awe that's she's a wrestler at times which warms the heart like but it leads to shite promos. Alexa Bliss was brilliant last night although I'm not sure why Sasha Banks had to get involved. Nia Jax was also missing who has been unfortunate to not get a title run or even a proper feud with her performances over the past few weeks.
I was wondering if Bayley would struggle outside NXT and it looks she is. Can wrestle fine but she is painful on the mic and big arenas aren't as forgiving as the Full Sail asskissers. I bet the crowd will be behind Alexa on Sunday. She's just a better character and you can tell crowds are tired of Bayley's "Gee whizz, it's great to be here." shtick.
Guessing dropping Charlotte on her head, twice, put an end to any push she was gonna get.
She was genuinely brilliant, I never usually pay attention to the womens wrestling (beyond the usual reasoning), but she actually captivated me, and it's rare to see a woman actually address the crowd.
Kalisto beating Braun was fantastic. Was well done in a way that imo didnt harm Braun but still had him ending up looking a monster esp if / when he beats Roman on Sunday.
(Kinda reminds me of Hurricane beating the Rock just before Rock beat Austin at WM).
(Kinda reminds me of Hurricane beating the Rock just before Rock beat Austin at WM).
Aye, that was the best part of the show(probably the only actually good bit), chucking Kalisto off the ramp kinda lost momentum a bit though.
I watched it via the Youtube channel, so chunks of it were cut out. I imagine the moving the dumpster up the ramp took a while though, in the live form.
The finish to the match actually reminded me of that tables match between Big Show and (I think) Cody Rhodes a while back, where Show stepped off the apron through a table.
Yeah reportedly Smackdown in 2009 (?) was very heavily edited in India in favour of portraying Khali as an all conquering good guy somehow. This included editing a Punjabi arm wrestling contest with Triple H to the point of the segment making zero sense. There was also a rumour that his entrance was dubbed/edited to have cheering added in.
They showed the entire lot of him strapping down the lid, the usual refs stop him, but they don't but they do, etc, then he walks away before coming back.
This week looked absolutely awful and Bryan wasn't on talking smack so that wasn't worth watching. The best bit seems to be a gif I've seen of Rhyno getting crackers knocked out of his hand.
Some of you lot need to learn how to spell Bayley for feck sake.