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So reigns will go on the road to WM (probably win an elimination chamber or something at Fastlane) then beat HHH at WM.
And given the predictability he will get boos. Its really strange they are doing this to him given they had Philly cheering really loud for him a few weeks ago.
 
He's been accused of that a lot in the past.

Wrestling fans tend to hate him for sleeping his way to the top. Well, that's what they say.

Struck me as a bit ridiculous. I didn't know most of the newer guys, but they seemed to be quite decent in some cases. A few entertaining high flyers. Then the guy who was already past it about a decade ago goes and wins.:lol:
 
First PPV I've watched since I beat my wrestling addiction in 2009. Man, do all the new guys really suck that bad?
Roman Reigns seems like the stupidest name ever. and nobody in the crowd liked him. isn't he supposed to be the new super babyface? and seriously? HHH again?

Loved to see AJ. I just checked that TNA is still running. Now that they've lost all their stars (Sting, Aj, Christian, Samoa Joe), how are they doing? always had a soft spot for them. thought they had a great couple of shows in that Monday night war experiment.
 
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Pointless.

Wrestlemania main event will be the League of Nations and triple h beating down Roman, whilst the rock makes the save.

Two biggest events are predictable. We all know triple h is dropping the title at mania to reigns.
 
Said this as it happened, Ambrose was on the cusp there, he could have been a made man. Despite that I am ok with the outcome.
I am not okay with this result in any way. WWE is in need of stars, they should be buildng more.
Ambrose
Owens
Ziggler
and multiple others could have been made big time stars, but it instead it went with the predictable stupid option.
 
Imagine going into Raw tomorrow with Ambrose as double champion. Instead we get a rehash of the same authority story line that has been going on since 2013.

I'm so disappointed by the ending.
 
Loved to see AJ. I just checked that TNA is still running. Now that they've lost all their stars (Sting, Aj, Christian, Samoa Joe), how are they doing? always had a soft spot for them. thought they had a great couple of shows in that Monday night war experiment.
I think they film their shows on a mobile phone now.
 
First PPV I've watched since I beat my wrestling addiction in 2009. Man, do all the new guys really suck that bad?
Roman Reigns seems like the stupidest name ever. and nobody in the crowd liked him. isn't he suposed to be the new super babyface? and seriously? HHH again?

Loved to see AJ. I just checked that TNA is still running. Now that they've lost all their stars (Sting, Aj, Christian, Samoa Joe), how are they doing? always had a soft spot for them. thought they had a great couple of shows in that Monday night war experiment.
Stop where you are. Watch NXT and Lucha Underground. Thank me later.
 
The rumble did a good job of putting over HHH as new champion and making Jericho the iron man of that.

The future right there.

WWE has bolloxed their last two rumbles but ended WM the right way (Bryan winning the title and Rollins Cashing in). This year will have Rock helping Reigns lol
 
So reigns will go on the road to WM (probably win an elimination chamber or something at Fastlane) then beat HHH at WM.
And given the predictability he will get boos. Its really strange they are doing this to him given they had Philly cheering really loud for him a few weeks ago.

It's like they don't understand what gets over and what doesn't.

Seriously Reigns could have been a credible face main eventer by now if it wasn't for the stupid things they put him through. Looking at this Rumble, they should have let Reigns have a normal title match rather than giving themselves the difficult job of trying to book a rumble where Reigns comes out of it looking sympathetic.
 
Imagine going into Raw tomorrow with Ambrose as double champion. Instead we get a rehash of the same authority story line that has been going on since 2013.

I'm so disappointed by the ending.
I don't think they see the need for unpredictability and excitement like this any more.
 
Struck me as a bit ridiculous. I didn't know most of the newer guys, but they seemed to be quite decent in some cases. A few entertaining high flyers. Then the guy who was already past it about a decade ago goes and wins.:lol:
Yes, they are desperately in need of new talent too. They've lost 3 of their biggest stars of the past decade, two to long term injuries, and other one quit to shorten his life by trying out mma.

HHH is the heir apparent though. he's got a thick skin, and has been hated plenty of times before.

but entertaining ppv nonetheless.
 
Reigns and Ambrose aren't ready, they can't shift WM buys at this point. It hurts to hear I know but they aren't THAT over yet. They are getting them there though.
 
Yes, they are desperately in need of new talent too. They've lost 3 of their biggest stars of the past decade, two to long term injuries, and other one quit to shorten his life by trying out mma.

HHH is the heir apparent though. he's got a thick skin, and has been hated plenty of times before.

but entertaining ppv nonetheless.

I mean, I could see why they'd have him as the Vince McMahon type figure...but actually having him keep on winning as a wrestler seems absurd.:lol:
 
Struck me as a bit ridiculous. I didn't know most of the newer guys, but they seemed to be quite decent in some cases. A few entertaining high flyers. Then the guy who was already past it about a decade ago goes and wins.:lol:

To be fair HHH is also busy breeding the next generation of guys (Owens, Neville, Sami Zayn, Tyler Breeze) it's just when they get to the main roster Vince shits on most of them and they don't do anything after that.
 
Looking at this Rumble, they should have let Reigns have a normal title match rather than giving themselves the difficult job of trying to book a rumble where Reigns comes out of it looking sympathetic.
At which they failed completely.

FFS, Owens, Lesnar, Ambrose, and a host of others came out of it looking more sympathetic.


And as far as we know, Kofi's still there in the middle of the ring on his own, sitting in the dark wondering where everyone else fecked off to, and if he's the champion or what?
 
Shall we do a Rumble guessing game this year? I lifted this template from last year, any suggestions to add?

#1 Entrant - Reigns
#2 Entrant - Luke Harper
Lucky #27 - Brock Lesnar
#30 Entrant - Triple H
Final 5 - Reigns, Lesnar, Owens, Triple H, Bray Wyatt.
Last Eliminated - Reigns
Winner - Wyatt (for shits and giggles)
Iron Man - Reigns
Anti-Iron Man - Rowan
Most Eliminations - Strowman
What Will Kofi Do - Jump on a ringjacket, Woods using lawyer logic to claim he's not eliminated because his feet have not technically hit the ground, and still get eliminated.
Surprise returns/entrants(s) - AJ Styles, Kurt Angle (hehe)
NXT entrant(s) - Samoa Joe.

#1 Entrant - Reigns
#2 Entrant - Kane
Lucky #27 - Undertaker
#30 Entrant - Triple H
Final 5 - Reigns, Lesnar, Owens, Triple H, Undertaker.
Last Eliminated - Owens
Winner - Triple H
Iron Man - Reigns
Anti-Iron Man - Heath Slater
Most Eliminations - Reigns
What Will Kofi Do - Keep getting caught and put back in by Big E
Surprise returns/entrants(s) - AJ Styles, Undertaker
NXT entrant(s) - Balor

#1 Entrant - Reigns
#2 Entrant - Ambrose
Lucky #27 - Lesnar
#30 Entrant - Triple H
Final 5 - Reigns, Lesnar, Owens, Triple H, Undertaker.
Last Eliminated - Reigns
Winner - Lesnar
Iron Man - Reigns
Anti-Iron Man - Heath Slater
Most Eliminations - Reigns
What Will Kofi Do - Keep getting caught and put back in by Big E
Surprise returns/entrants(s) - AJ Styles, Undertaker, Bob Backlund
NXT entrant(s) - Balor, Joe, Enzo.

#1 Entrant - Reigns
#2 Entrant - The Big Show
Lucky #27 - Dolph Ziggler
#30 Entrant - Brock Lesnar
Final 5 - Reigns, Lesnar, Bray Wyatt, Sheamus and Dean Ambrose
Last Eliminated - Reigns
Winner - Lesnar
Iron Man - Reigns
Anti-Iron Man - Xavier Woods
Most Eliminations - Reigns
What Will Kofi Do - Get eliminated
Surprise returns/entrants(s) -
NXT entrant(s) -
None
Surprise of the Rumble - Tyler Breeze lasts long and is a standout performer

#1 Entrant - Reigns
#2 Entrant - Sheamus
Lucky #27 - Lesnar
#30 Entrant - Triple H
Final 5 - Reigns, Lesnar, HHH, Wyatt, Strowman
Last Eliminated - Reigns
Winner - Lesnar
Iron Man - Reigns
Anti-Iron Man - Heath Slater
Most Eliminations - Reigns
What Will Kofi Do - don't know but I'm looking forward to it
Surprise returns/entrants(s) - AJ Styles,
NXT entrant(s) - Balor

#1 Entrant - Reigns
#2 Entrant - Big Show
Lucky #27 - HHH
#30 Entrant - Bray Wyatt
Final 5 - Reigns, Lesnar, HHH, Wyatt, Strowman
Last Eliminated - Reigns
Winner - HHH
Iron Man - Reigns
Anti-Iron Man - Often Immitated, Never Eliminated, Curtis Axel
Most Eliminations - Reigns
What Will Kofi Do - He'll tease doing a big escape, but won't do anything... either because he fails or just because he heels it up.
Surprise returns/entrants(s) - Booker T, Rikishi
NXT entrant(s) - Sami Zayn

#1 Entrant - Reigns
#2 Entrant - Strowman
Lucky #27 - Heath Slater
#30 Entrant - Triple H
Final 5 - Reigns, Lesnar, HHH, Wyatt, Sheamus
Last Eliminated - Reigns
Winner - Lesnar
Iron Man - Reigns
Anti-Iron Man - Tyler Breeze
Most Eliminations - Reigns
What Will Kofi Do - Be Caught by Big E who throws him back in.
Surprise returns/entrants(s) - Undertaker, AJ Styles
NXT entrant(s) - Sami Zayn to attack Owens

#1 Entrant - Roman Reigns
#2 Entrant - Big Show
Lucky #27 - Daniel Bryan
#30 Entrant - Triple H
Final 5 - Roman Reigns, Bray Wyatt, Brock Lesnar, Daniel Bryan & Triple H
Last Eliminated - Roman Reigns
Winner - Triple H
Iron Man - Roman Reigns
Anti-Iron Man - Xavier Woods
Most Eliminations - Roman Reigns
What will Kofi do - Get thrown onto the other members of New Day before returning to the ring
Surprise return/entrant(s) - Daniel Bryan, Triple H
NXT entrant(s) - Finn Balor

haha. Imagine if they have Curtis attacked again before he gets to the ring. They really should do that tbh.

#1 Entrant - Roman Reigns
#2 Entrant - Ambrose
Lucky #27 - Brock
#30 Entrant - Triple H
Final 5 - Roman Reigns, Bray Wyatt, Brock Lesnar, Big Show & Triple H
Last Eliminated - Roman Reigns
Winner - Brock
Iron Man - Roman Reigns
Anti-Iron Man - Bo Dallas
Most Eliminations - Roman Reigns
What will Kofi do - Get thrown onto the other members of New Day before returning to the ring
Surprise return/entrant(s) - Triple H.... Cena :nervous:
NXT entrant(s) - Corbin

#1 Entrant - Roman Reigns
#2 Entrant - Del Rio (followed by BNB and Rusev at 3 & 4)
Lucky #27 - Sheamus
#30 Entrant - Triple H
Final 5 - Roman Reigns, Bray Wyatt, Brock Lesnar, Sheamus & Triple H
Last Eliminated - Triple H
Winner - Bray Wyatt
Iron Man - Roman Reigns
Anti-Iron Man - Stardust
Most Eliminations - Strowman
What will Kofi do - Get thrown onto the other members of New Day before returning to the ring
Surprise return/entrant(s) - Triple H & Sasha
NXT entrant(s) - Balor

The biggest surprise would be if this taping sold out tbh.

Most likely thing is probably some kind of tournament that they throw highlights of on the Network where the winner gets entry into the Rumble, a bit like with Itami at Mania, even if it is a terrible way to debut someone (well, anyone, including if not especially AJ Styles).

#1 Entrant - Roman Reigns is confirmed, no?
#2 Entrant - Luke Harper
Lucky #27 - Sheamus
#30 Entrant - Triple H
Final 5 - Roman Reigns, Triple H, Brock Lesnar, Bray Wyatt, Sheamus
Last Eliminated - Triple H
Winner - Roman Reigns
Iron Man - Roman Reigns
Anti-Iron Man - Xavier Woods
Most Eliminations - Braun Strowman
What Will Kofi Do - Nothing at all
Surprise returns/entrants(s) - X Pac
NXT entrant(s) - Sami Zayn

#1 Entrant - Roman Reigns.
#2 Entrant - Rusev
Lucky #27 - Lesnar
#30 Entrant - Triple H
Final 5 - Roman Reigns, Triple H, Brock Lesnar, Bray Wyatt, Strowman
Last Eliminated - Roman Reigns
Winner - Triple H
Iron Man - Roman Reigns
Anti-Iron Man - Curtis Axel (Won't enter/be eliminated again)
Most Eliminations - Roman Reigns
What Will Kofi Do - Get continually caught and thrown back in by Big E
Surprise returns/entrants(s) - Hacksaw Jim Duggan (if showing up at every Rumble can be classed as a "surprise")
NXT entrant(s) - Sami Zayn
 
Well it was a great night for Ambrose, his match with KO was fantastic and then to be in the final 2 for the rumble made him look strong.
 
To be fair HHH is also busy breeding the next generation of guys (Owens, Neville, Sami Zayn, Tyler Breeze) it's just when they get to the main roster Vince shits on most of them and they don't do anything after that.

You'd assume they need to actually have these guys win stuff, though. One of them seemed to be hated by everyone in the ring, and looked like a decent villain. Then he got thrown out. Same with the creepy guy, who looked kinda menacing till his mates disappeared and he casually got chucked out.
 
Reigns and Ambrose aren't ready, they can't shift WM buys at this point. It hurts to hear I know but they aren't THAT over yet. They are getting them there though.

TBH, it doesnt work like that anymore given its on the network. Both are over, including Reigns. HHH winning the title in 2016 to main event WM is madness.
 
Off to bed shortly, can't help but think how I'd be feeling if Ambrose had won out at the end. Nonetheless, great PPV.
 
Trying to look at it positively, if HHH loses at WM, do you think that could finally be the end of The Authority? Or at least for a while?
 
TBH, it doesnt work like that anymore given its on the network. Both are over, including Reigns. HHH winning the title in 2016 to main event WM is madness.

It isnt madness really is it? and they still have a high amount of people who buy through their cable network. This is the last part of Ambrose and Reigns' build, they'll be the guys taking over after Mania and matches like Rock Triple H will happen '17 as a supplement to the newer guys.
 
I mean, I could see why they'd have him as the Vince McMahon type figure...but actually having him keep on winning as a wrestler seems absurd.:lol:
He's part time too. Less than 10 matches in the last 3/4 years.

Maybe he wants his kids to see him win the title. They have to be at the age now where they can comprehend what's going on.

He's a very good wrestler though. But he needs to pass on the torch.
 
It isnt madness really is it? and they still have a high amount of people who buy through their cable network. This is the last part of Ambrose and Reigns' build, they'll be the guys taking over after Mania and matches like Rock Triple H will happen '17 as a supplement to the newer guys.
That's been said with years though, with whoever's the current at the time hot property.
 
To be fair HHH is also busy breeding the next generation of guys (Owens, Neville, Sami Zayn, Tyler Breeze) it's just when they get to the main roster Vince shits on most of them and they don't do anything after that.

You mean like how Triple Hs wife shits on all the divas.

It's not just Vince you know. Watch these come up the main roster and put them in the same ring as Triple H or Stephanie, do you think they'd put them over? Triple H talks down the whole roster whenever he is on raw. One of the reasons NXT is good because he is backstage and not on it. Whilst Stephanie slaps the whole roster.

Owens has been fairly good by the way.
 
It isnt madness really is it? and they still have a high amount of people who buy through their cable network. This is the last part of Ambrose and Reigns' build, they'll be the guys taking over after Mania and matches like Rock Triple H will happen '17 as a supplement to the newer guys.

Its madness cos weve been hearing that for 15 years but isnt the case at all. Who currently in WWE is a top guy that wasnt from the attitude era or isnt a part timer (or injured I guess as well)? Serious question.

HHH is 46 and they made him champion in 2016. WM will be bought on the merit of being WM, but they should be using WM to showcase / put over guys who will be there going forward. They use waaaay too many part timers for their shows which might pop a buyrate, but then after that, with those parttimers gone, they are left with the actual roster who have been made to look weak in comparison. Its happened year after year for a while now.
 
That's been said with years though, with whoever's the current at the time hot property.

But there has never been as obvious a push towards a crop of younger guys since the end of the last millennium, it took Triple H nigh on 5 years to get a go at the big strap. It's obvious it is close. After WM all the elements are going to be there.
 
Rumble notes:

The good

#1 Reigns not winning.
#2 Zayn vs KO vs Stlyes
#3 AJ Styles. Heard so much about him. Looking forward to seeing more.

The bad

#1 Jericho being there for so long is a travesty. Kofi was more entertaining and deserving ffs! :mad:
#2 Lesnar. Such an anti-climax. Not even to final 4! And no angry demolition!
#3 Wyatt family. Same story repeats. Always there, but never wins.

The Ugly:

#1 HHH winning this instead of Ambrose. So underserving and waste of a classic storyline. The Shield angle could have been continues even after Rollins returns.



Entertaining with a sloppy finish. 7.5/10.
 
Its madness cos weve been hearing that for 15 years but isnt the case at all. Who currently in WWE is a top guy that wasnt from the attitude era or isnt a part timer (or injured I guess as well)? Serious question.

HHH is 46 and they made him champion in 2016. WM will be bought on the merit of being WM, but they should be using WM to showcase / put over guys who will be there going forward. They use waaaay too many part timers for their shows which might pop a buyrate, but then after that, with those parttimers gone, they are left with the actual roster who have been made to look weak in comparison. Its happened year after year for a while now.

Wrestlemania will always draw.

It drew with Miz as the fecking champion because we all knew the rock will be there just like this years event. Then you add Brock and Undertaker to the mix. These part timers aren't the problem. I don't mind Triple H wrestling again, but he shouldn't be as champion.

They shouldn't worry about the buyrates. With these part timers they can afford to take risks to the main event which they not doing.
 
They built Triple H vs Reigns for a few months now and even at 46 HHH is still in top condition, I have no problem with him winning the rumble. I'm just relieved Reigns didn't retain it, infact he was made to look pretty weak tonight imo, he missed most of the rumble through injury then came back for 2 minutes before being tossed out. If only they could completely remove him from the main event picture, I can't stand the guy he's mediocre at everything he does.
 
Its madness cos weve been hearing that for 15 years but isnt the case at all. Who currently in WWE is a top guy that wasnt from the attitude era or isnt a part timer (or injured I guess as well)? Serious question.

HHH is 46 and they made him champion in 2016. WM will be bought on the merit of being WM, but they should be using WM to showcase / put over guys who will be there going forward. They use waaaay too many part timers for their shows which might pop a buyrate, but then after that, with those parttimers gone, they are left with the actual roster who have been made to look weak in comparison. Its happened year after year for a while now.

Not quite 15 considering all the stars WWE made over a 2-3 year period after the millennium turned.

Cena Jericho, Edge, Hardy's, Eddie, Benoit, Angle, Batista, Orton etc, they've not all been on top as long as they should've been for a variety of reasons but is there anyone in the last 15 years that they've really gotten it wrong with ?
 
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