One more triple threat in WrestleMania?
Brock vs Rollins vs Reigns?
Brock vs Rollins vs Reigns?
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The problem here is WWE trying to force things.
The sensible thing to do would be to say "oh, Reigns isn't getting the reaction we want, let's hold off on that megapush" - guy's 29, if you build him over 2015, he might go into NEXT Rumble with the momentum to actually win it and be cheered.
The sensible thing to do would be to say "oh, Reigns isn't getting the reaction we want, let's hold off on that megapush" - guy's 29, if you build him over 2015, he might go into NEXT Rumble with the momentum to actually win it and be cheered.
Wm 27 the Miz beat Cena
God the crowd sucked since Bryan Got eliminated, like he would have a chance of beating Lesnar whoever does the script.
Maybe WWE wants to turn Brock face and Reigns (and Rock) heel? ....erm.
Rock carrying Reigns, so obviously.
Do they think fans are idiots?
Do they think fans are idiots?
Man, was looking like a great PPV up until Bryan's elimination. So poorly booked after that.
Jesus Christ, that promo from Rock and Reigns should come with a health warning.
The problem isn't Reigns and it never has been Reigns for me. Yeah, he's all about potential at the moment and possesses no charisma to deserve the position WWE has given him. However, the problem is WWE forcing him down our throats. It's foolishness/stubbornness to force any superstar down our throats and expect us to support them.
This Royal Rumble had potential. And like last year, it has been ruined by mediocre booking.
This Royal Rumble had potential. And like last year, it has been ruined by mediocre booking.
Why? bryan not big enough for you Vince?
After the way Brock has destroyed better opposition this past year no, Bryan isn't that man to beat him.
That said i don't think there is anyone on the rooster who is.
Horrific booking. There's practically no thought gone into this as far as suspense is concerned. The fan isn't daft enough to think that Big Show or Kane are legitimate contenders for Brock Lesnar at Mania so why have them go two-on-one against Reigns at the end. Even if Reigns winning is highly probable, at least leave someone in to hold that seed of doubt until the very end.
How do they not go with Bryan vs Brock though? The wrestling for a WM main event would be fantastic. You know the two could put on a 30 minute classic. It would be built and fought just like Eddie vs Brock (except Brock wouldnt do the mariachi band)
They had the whole story. Bryan didnt lose the title. Brock has been crushing WWE superstars.
Bryan wins rumble after having to compete with the Authority. Hes the one the Authority just does not want and havent wanted from the start. He gets his shot at redemption but has to go through the hired mercenary who has not been beaten. Its the whole david vs goliath story that always works.
Instead they are pushing Reigns way to soon. Rock rub or not, hes not going to be cheered now.
They had the whole story. Bryan didnt lose the title. Brock has been crushing WWE superstars.
Bryan wins rumble after having to compete with the Authority. Hes the one the Authority just does not want and havent wanted from the start. He gets his shot at redemption but has to go through the hired mercenary who has not been beaten. Its the whole david vs goliath story that always works.
Instead they are pushing Reigns way to soon. Rock rub or not, hes not going to be cheered now.
It's weird how they don't get it. Just last year, they had one of Wrestlemania's greatest moments when they let a guy who the crowd naturally got behind, win.
Force something on the crowd and you end up with that awkward crap they had tonight.
Why? bryan not big enough for you Vince?
I'm a big Bryan fan, I was livid Batista won it last year but this time round, it makes sense, he's been out for ages, can Bryan really be seen as a legit threat to Lesnar? Can Bryan/Lesnar really 'sell' as a Wrestlemania main event. Maybe if they make it triple threat again, but two years in a row is overkill.
It was the smartest available option, the alternative was have Cena win the title/ Bryan win Rumble and then they face off at Mania in a pass the torch sort of match but Bryans injuries buried that idea really.
The only feck up tonight was leaving Kane and Big Show in there for so long, I mean ffs in 2000 these two were in the last 4 of the Rumble, it's 15 years later, move on for christ sake.
Better? Better how? Who is actually better than Bryan that Brock has beaten? Bigger maybe. Not better.
No smartest is not having Reigns win it and kill whatever chance they had to build him as the top face for the company. Reigns instead should have not won the rumble but instead faced Cena and beaten Cena at WM whilst Brock loses to Bryan.
Smart is not pissing of the majority of your fans when you are struggling for Network subscriptions, PPV buys and ratings.
Meh, Curtis Axel wasn't eliminated. He should have come in at the end, threw Reigns over the top rope, grabbed the microphone and said, "Now that Royal Rumble performance was just.........Perfect".
They should start Raw like that lol.
I personally think Rollins is better and Lesnar beat him tonight. Lesnar defeated the greatest of all time at mania last year as well. I really don't get the obsession many have with Bryan. I'm not saying he isn't good, he is but you'd think he was the best ever way some go on about him.
The problem is that Lesnar has been built as this wrecking machine, this beast, He's not really been "wrestling", you cant lap up all those power moves from earlier and kick outs of AA's at 1 and then turn around and say he should do arm bars with Bryan for 30 minutes, it makes no sense. That's the problem with your section of the WWE Universe
you want things both ways even when both ways make no sense together.I really think the scary thing here is that they just don't get it. Why are they ignoring what their fan base is saying? It just baffles me.
The problem is that Lesnar has been built as this wrecking machine, this beast, He's not really been "wrestling", you cant lap up all those power moves from earlier and kick outs of AA's at 1 and then turn around and say he should do arm bars with Bryan for 30 minutes, it makes no sense. That's the problem with your section of the WWE Universe
This.
Lesnar vs Bryan wouldn't be good to watch the way they've gone with Brock dominating all before him.
They just dont have anybody to beat Brock, whatever ending they booked would of been rubbish anyway, first time ive seen a main event that has two people who cant talk, Paul Heyman is going to have to build the whole thing himself, unless thats why they have brought the Rock into the picture
Yeah don't make the mistake of thinking tonight's crowd speak for everyone, we've seen this before.
When Bryan and Punk got the title that the cry babies cried for, there was no noticeable rise in ppv buyrates and raw ratings because these sorts of people are 15 minute fans, These people like an idea for 15 minutes and then get bored of it (see Fandango, Cesaro, Tyson Kidd, Ryder etc) and move on to the next thing. The only reason Bryan isnt being booed now is because he missed 8 months of action.
I missed the Rumble. Did Reigns get booed with the Rock by his side?
Well and truly...it was brutal to watch.
I can't see how Roman is going to have a 30 minute match to headline wrestlemania. He's so obviously not ready. I don't even dislike him but just give the guy some time to get better instead of throwing him straight in when he isn't good enough.
Lesner took three AAs in a row tonight, went threw a table with massive force, got smacked with a metal briefcase 3 times in the head and still wouldn't stay down, how many spears and superman punches is it going to take to beat him?
Lesner took three AAs in a row tonight, went threw a table with massive force, got smacked with a metal briefcase 3 times in the head and still wouldn't stay down, how many spears and superman punches is it going to take to beat him?
End of the day hes the best wrestler they have. Having a wrestler / submission expert defeat Brock would make sense. You dont brawl with him, you out wrestle him.
The problem is that Lesnar has been built as this wrecking machine, this beast, He's not really been "wrestling", you cant lap up all those power moves from earlier and kick outs of AA's at 1 and then turn around and say he should do arm bars with Bryan for 30 minutes, it makes no sense. That's the problem with your section of the WWE Universe
What the hell is my section? This makes no sense. What is my section? please explain? Sections that agree with me:
THose on the board today (but they dont matter right)?
Those on social media (but they dont matter right)?)
Those in the arena who paid tickets / buy subscriptions which is seeing a huge drop (well look at the reaction)
Well they do speak for everybody considering Reigns reactions have been getting worse each week since his return. Its only going to get worse now.
You do realise when Punk won the title he wasnt the main event for the majority (cena vs Johnny Ace rofl)
Also when Bryan won the title he held it for like a month and fought Kane (rofl)
And those two still got their names chanted and still do. So I dont quite get your point here.
I can't see how Roman is going to have a 30 minute match to headline wrestlemania. He's so obviously not ready. I don't even dislike him but just give the guy some time to get better instead of throwing him straight in when he isn't good enough.
Lesner took three AAs in a row tonight, went threw a table with massive force, got smacked with a metal briefcase 3 times in the head and still wouldn't stay down, how many spears and superman punches is it going to take to beat him?
And yet after all that people still think Bryan vs Lesnar would have been a good watch.
Actually I think you'll find most of those fans just like watching good wrestlers wrestle.
I can't see how Roman is going to have a 30 minute match to headline wrestlemania. He's so obviously not ready. I don't even dislike him but just give the guy some time to get better instead of throwing him straight in when he isn't good enough.
Lesner took three AAs in a row tonight, went threw a table with massive force, got smacked with a metal briefcase 3 times in the head and still wouldn't stay down, how many spears and superman punches is it going to take to beat him?
I dont hate Reigns either. I think he could be built as a tough no nonsense action guy (obviously Vince thinks different with those corny Disney cenastyle promos hes been doing. Sufferin suckatash)
But yeah, he isnt ready to have a WM main event worthy type match.
Rollins vs Bryan would have been the perfect main event.
Exactly. It's naive. I do feel sorry for Reigns though because this is the biggest moment of his career thus far, but it's come at a time where fans don't really connect with him and he doesn't connect with them. No surprise there though.
Go watch Eddie vs Brock. It would be just like that. At the end of the day, its all about what happens in the ring and Bryan is the best placed to have the best match with brock at WM from the main roster.
It would be better than bloody reigns repeatedly spearing him. See cm punk vs lesner. You just build up the idea that it's a brilliant technician against pure strengh.
All well and good trying to out wrestle someone who is going to throw you around for half hour like a rag doll, someone who like tonight got up after everything thrown at him.
I don't see that being fun to watch, not that Reigns vs Lesnar is any better.
Thats a great example of a recent Brock match actually. I loved that match. Personally I think Bryan is a better athlete in the ring than Punk but doesnt matter. Punk had a really fantastic competitive unpredictable match with Brock.
More people would see that as a fun match though. And more believable. See posts above
See Eddie vs Brock
Angle vs Brock
Punk vs Brock.
Besides all that stuff thats being mentioned, Brock did get up, but he was down for a long time during it as well. Bryan just needs to catch him to make him tap or keep him down for three seconds which is not unbelievable at all.
We all like who we all like. I dont mind Reigns and think he could be a real force / top face / money maker for WWE. I like Bryan. But for this year, Bryan was the guy they should have gone with not Reigns.
Putting Ziggler in at 30 was also a stupid idea. Everyone knew he qualified so had to come in last. It killed what little suspense they had remaining. It also killed any hope that Orton might be returning at the Rumble. And more disappointment as I was waiting for Sting to clatter Triple H as he was shouting at Reigns and The Rock at the end.
The whole Rumble was just Vince delivering FU after FU to the audience.
The whole Rumble was just Vince delivering FU after FU to the audience.