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How about a match that's like the Royal Rumble, but with 20 people, pinfall/submission to eliminate, anything goes rules, and A FECKING BILLION FLIPS?

You're welcome.

Edit: Er...ignore the Miami Vice thumbnail. Silly sods didn't cut the adverts out, and it's picked one of them to use.
 
Wouldn't think they'd wanna take the belt of Lesnar before WM. He's a big draw, and what are they gonna do with him for WM if he drops the belt before then? Reigns will probably win the Rumble, wouldn't surprise me if the main event at WM is a triple threat also including Rollins.
 
soap said:
Wouldn't think they'd wanna take the belt of Lesnar before WM. He's a big draw, and what are they gonna do with him for WM if he drops the belt before then? Reigns will probably win the Rumble, wouldn't surprise me if the main event at WM is a triple threat also including Rollins.
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it wouldn't suprise me to see Ambrose win the rumble, reigns beating lesnar at fast lane and rollins adding himself to the match via his briefcase and seeing a shield triple threat match at mania.
 
Rolandofgilead said:
it wouldn't suprise me to see Ambrose win the rumble, reigns beating lesnar at fast lane and rollins adding himself to the match via his briefcase and seeing a shield triple threat match at mania.
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That would be a HUGE surprise. There's no chance they'd throw Reigns into that, he'd get booed out of the building.

Reigns vs Cena makes the most sense (not necessarily for the title), with Bryan vs Brock (less likely to be the title match). Rollins vs Orton could be a great main event, and would be the closest thing to a shock, but I don't see it being a title match. Ambrose has no spot on the Mania card as I see it right now (neither do plenty of other guys so no need to worry there).

Reigns vs Cena
Bryan vs Brock
Rollins vs Orton
Undertaker vs Wyatt
Sting vs HHH

Look pretty likely at the moment. I am interested in what happens with Rollins, he's the key if they decide to change things around.
 
soap said:
Wouldn't think they'd wanna take the belt of Lesnar before WM. He's a big draw, and what are they gonna do with him for WM if he drops the belt before then? Reigns will probably win the Rumble, wouldn't surprise me if the main event at WM is a triple threat also including Rollins.
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Good point, totally agree.

soap said:
Wouldn't think they'd wanna take the belt of Lesnar before WM. He's a big draw, and what are they gonna do with him for WM if he drops the belt before then? Reigns will probably win the Rumble, wouldn't surprise me if the main event at WM is a triple threat also including Rollins.
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What are you talking about? Couldn't disagree more.
 
phelans shorts said:
That would be a HUGE surprise. There's no chance they'd throw Reigns into that, he'd get booed out of the building.

Reigns vs Cena makes the most sense (not necessarily for the title), with Bryan vs Brock (less likely to be the title match). Rollins vs Orton could be a great main event, and would be the closest thing to a shock, but I don't see it being a title match. Ambrose has no spot on the Mania card as I see it right now (neither do plenty of other guys so no need to worry there).

Reigns vs Cena
Bryan vs Brock
Rollins vs Orton
Undertaker vs Wyatt
Sting vs HHH

Look pretty likely at the moment. I am interested in what happens with Rollins, he's the key if they decide to change things around.
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i agree, i don't think it's likely i just haven't ruled out the possibility of it happening, i have learnt to expect the unexpected around wrestlemania time.
Having said that, last year i remember looking at the betting odds and Brock was 33/1 to beat the undertaker and i thought long and hard about putting a tenner on, in the end i changed my mind last second and stuck a tenner on taker instead.
 
Reckon a Shield triple threat would be quite good, although if Reigns were to win the title at Fast Lane I think it would be a foregone conclusion that he would retain at Mania.
 
I'd enjoy a shield triple threat but don't think it will happen. They are strapping the rocket to Roman Reigns. Still think he'll win the rumble and then beat Brock at WM. Brock's the big draw card so the match makes sense. Not sure Reigns is ready for it to be honest though.
 
I hope Taker has had his last match. The whole point of his match at WM being such a big deal was the streak. Its a shame they let someone who only wrestles twice a year break it. Although I've just had a sudden brainwave, the only thing that might be cool - and this would also deal with the problem of Lesnar not having an opponent if he loses to Cena - have Taker win a rematch against Brock. There's literally no chance of that happening of course.

I think Rusev will drop the US title to Ziggler or Ambrose at WM.
 
soap said:
I hope Taker has had his last match. The whole point of his match at WM being such a big deal was the streak. Its a shame they let someone who only wrestles twice a year break it. Although I've just had a sudden brainwave, the only thing that might be cool - and this would also deal with the problem of Lesnar not having an opponent if he loses to Cena - have Taker win a rematch against Brock. There's literally no chance of that happening of course.
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Who does Taker getting his win back help? How is it better than having Roman beat Brock, or having Brock TAP to Bryan?

Anyway Taker is facing Bray if anyone.

I think Rusev will drop the US title to Ziggler or Ambrose at WM.
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Ziggler would be a total waste of Rusev's momentum. Ambrose I could see.
 
phelans shorts said:
Who does Taker getting his win back help? How is it better than having Roman beat Brock, or having Brock TAP to Bryan?

Anyway Taker is facing Bray if anyone.
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Its not, I hope Brock takes the belt into WM. like I said, IF Brock loses to Cena there's only 2 months to build up a match at WM which would be hard given he's never on TV. A rematch against Taker wouldn't need any building up.

Besides I don't see who Wyatt vs Taker helps either. Does nothing to improve Taker's legacy seeing as the streak is gone and doesn't do much to get Wyatt over for the same reason (having Taker lose twice in a row at WM would be beyond stupid anyway). A lot of people didn't like the streak ending, Taker getting a win against the same opponent a year later is about the only thing that would be any consolation.
 
They should have Cena lose to Reigns at WM. In fact Reigns beating Rusev around Summerslam to end his undefeated streak wouldnt be too bad either.
Bryan beat Brock for the title by making him tap (or lesser extent Ziggler to give him back his momentum that the Authority coming back took away for some reason but that will never ever happen)
Ziggler could win the Andre the Giant battle royal last eliminating Rusev.

I dont want Taker to have a match and him vs Bray will do nothing for nobody. If Bray loses, it pushes him down further. If he wins, well, Brock beaten Taker already, so what? Sting vs HHH would work as a brawl (with HHH getting Kane, Mark Henry, Big show in his corner). Taker making the save and having his WM moment with Sting.

Rollins vs Orton would be good with Rollins winning. Ambrose needs something big because theyve had him lose his momentum big time. Hes lost every PPV match hes been in since Shield broke up. In fact, he lost a feud to a heel. Clean. What?

TBH, right now im not excited about the road to WM at all. Last year, the crowds helped change the direction of WWe (And well Punk walking out helped too).
 
I really don't want to see Lesnar tapping to anyone.

When he loses it should be a pinfall... and preferably because he's been hit with an actual brick.
 
Duffy said:
Fancy a bit of the 2001 Rumble this week at some point...brilliant PPV.
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Just watched this too. A couple of the shots to the head Benoit takes, the one with the chair when he's midair diving through the ropes and the one where Y2J seesaws the ladder on the ropes... Not surprising people think those kind of spots were the cause of him losing his mind.
 
soap said:
Its not, I hope Brock takes the belt into WM. like I said, IF Brock loses to Cena there's only 2 months to build up a match at WM which would be hard given he's never on TV. A rematch against Taker wouldn't need any building up.

Besides I don't see who Wyatt vs Taker helps either. Does nothing to improve Taker's legacy seeing as the streak is gone and doesn't do much to get Wyatt over for the same reason (having Taker lose twice in a row at WM would be beyond stupid anyway). A lot of people didn't like the streak ending, Taker getting a win against the same opponent a year later is about the only thing that would be any consolation.
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Brock doesn't have to lose to Cena to lose the title.

Taker winning helps no one, beating the Undertaker at Wrestlemania is still a big deal. There's plenty of time to build to Brock vs Roman or more likely Bryan. You could even have Brock eliminate one of them from the Rumble on the Authorities order. Easy peasy, I've just booked it.

Taker beating Brock is a horrendous idea in every sense.
 
phelans shorts said:
Brock doesn't have to lose to Cena to lose the title.

Taker winning helps no one, beating the Undertaker at Wrestlemania is still a big deal. There's plenty of time to build to Brock vs Roman or more likely Bryan. You could even have Brock eliminate one of them from the Rumble on the Authorities order. Easy peasy, I've just booked it.

Taker beating Brock is a horrendous idea in every sense.
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You'd honestly have Wyatt (or anyone for that matter) beat The Undertaker at WM? Undertaker losing at two mania's in a row... speaking of horrendous ideas.

Why would Brock Lesnar align with the Authority while Rollins has the MITB and just curb stomped him? Makes as much sense as just attacking someone randomly to spark a feud. The way I see it, he either goes into WM as champion with his invincible mystique in tact so that Reigns or Bryan or whoever can get over by beating him, or there's not much you can do with him that won't be underwhelming. Maybe there's something doable I'm not thinking of, doing the Authority's bidding, though? No thanks.
 
Well. Brock was standing with Authority at the end of Raw when they returned for no reason at all. It doesnt make sense yet Vince still goes along with it because he treats his audience as idiots.

Not sure why Brock tapping out is a big problem for some. Bryan catching his arm and making him tap would be a huge boost for Bryan. Better than a lucky rollup or something for the WM main event.
 
soap said:
You'd honestly have Wyatt (or anyone for that matter) beat The Undertaker at WM? Undertaker losing at two mania's in a row... speaking of horrendous ideas.
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Of course I would. What would be the bad idea with Undertaker losing two in a row? Where is the downside?

Why would Brock Lesnar align with the Authority while Rollins has the MITB and just curb stomped him? Makes as much sense as just attacking someone randomly to spark a feud. The way I see it, he either goes into WM as champion with his invincible mystique in tact so that Reigns or Bryan or whoever can get over by beating him, or there's not much you can do with him that won't be underwhelming. Maybe there's something doable I'm not thinking of, doing the Authority's bidding, though? No thanks.
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Brock has been aligned with the Authority since Summerslam. As I say he doesn't need to be beaten to lose the title. Brock F5's Rollins, Cena throws Brock out of the ring, Cena pins Rollins. There you go, Brock in unbeaten and loses the belt. You can even have Brock then kill Cena and Rollins cashing in to make him look even stronger. Easy peasy.

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They will probably have Cena pin Rollins. Brock gets pissed off and destroys Cena. Rollins cashes in.
Brock still pissed off comes into the Rumble and eliminates somebody like Bryan
 
Cenas too corny. Why cant they just have serious Cena given the circumstances?

Edit: ANother 20 minute promo that started with Brock wanting to kick ass, but instead just stands there whilst others talk about and the focus is on Cena. ugh. Im out, going to sleep!
 
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Actually watching this for the first time since I was 10.
How can they get away with talking for 30 mins? Is it like this every week?
Imagine that happened at old Trafford ha
 
cyberman said:
Actually watching this for the first time since I was 10.
How can they get away with talking for 30 mins? Is it like this every week?
Imagine that happened at old Trafford ha
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They talk for the first 20/30 minutes of the show every week and either go into an opening match after the talking or outline the rest of the show after the talking. It's a standard part of the show and it's normally either HHH/Stephanie or Cena who do it(usually together). It's one of the reasons I don't watch much Raw but catch the PPVS which are generally good.
 
Anyone who watches OSW Review on youtube knows the best way to watch Raw is skip the first 2 hours and just watch hour 3. They recap anything important from hours 1 and 2 (which is mostly filler) at the start of hour 3, so you still have context for whats happening
 
phelans shorts said:
Of course I would. What would be the bad idea with Undertaker losing two in a row? Where is the downside?



Brock has been aligned with the Authority since Summerslam. As I say he doesn't need to be beaten to lose the title. Brock F5's Rollins, Cena throws Brock out of the ring, Cena pins Rollins. There you go, Brock in unbeaten and loses the belt. You can even have Brock then kill Cena and Rollins cashing in to make him look even stronger. Easy peasy.
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Undertaker is probably the most respected wrestler ever, the streak was his thing. I can accept its gone, I even think its a good thing for a wrestler to lose their last match even if I don't think Lesnar should've been the one to break it. If he goes and loses two years in a row it that would piss on his legacy, I'd imagine most fans would find it so lame it would actually hurt Wyatt to be involved with it. When the streak went it was shocking, was trending like mad on social media, people who haven't watched wrestling in years were commenting on it. If he loses this year it'll be like "LOL he lost again?!"

That's before Rollins interfering at Night of Champions/Curb stomp/ Lesnar recently attacking Kane and Big Show. Perhaps another way to do it would be Rollins eliminates Reigns from the Rumble and wins the triple threat by pinning Cena. Lesnar gets a rematch at Fast Lane and Reigns attacks Rollins leading to a DQ which pisses Brock off. I think Reigns is overwhelming favourite to win the Rumble though... And I really don't wanna see the belt on Cena again any time soon.
 
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Heyman/Lesnar would never be able to use beating the streak again either, as being the 1 in 2 sounds pretty rubbish.

I think Taker deserves 1 last Harrah at Wrestlemania before he retires, even if it's lower on the card.
 
As old as Undertaker is, didn't he do a fairly good job against Brock last year? I struggle to remember because it's hard to look past anything but the shock ending when it comes to that match.

If Undetaker has to wrestle this year I'd rather it was against Brock again over anyone else. It's the only real way to make one more mach just that little less pointless.
 
soap said:
Undertaker is probably the most respected wrestler ever, the streak was his thing. I can accept its gone, I even think its a good thing for a wrestler to lose their last match even if I don't think Lesnar should've been the one to break it. If he goes and loses two years in a row it that would piss on his legacy, I'd imagine most fans would find it so lame it would actually hurt Wyatt to be involved with it. When the streak went it was shocking, was trending like mad on social media, people who haven't watched wrestling in years were commenting on it. If he loses this year it'll be like "LOL he lost again?!"
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It would only hurt Wyatt if he lost. There's no real justification for Taker winning.

That's before Rollins interfering at Night of Champions/Curb stomp/ Lesnar recently attacking Kane and Big Show. Perhaps another way to do it would be Rollins eliminates Reigns from the Rumble and wins the triple threat by pinning Cena. Lesnar gets a rematch at Fast Lane and Reigns attacks Rollins leading to a DQ which pisses Brock off. I think Reigns is overwhelming favourite to win the Rumble though... And I really don't wanna see the belt on Cena again any time soon.
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Reigns vs Cena is the obvious match given current situations, Reigns against anyone else is likely to get booed which they do not want.

Adam-Utd said:
Heyman/Lesnar would never be able to use beating the streak again either, as being the 1 in 2 sounds pretty rubbish.

I think Taker deserves 1 last Harrah at Wrestlemania before he retires, even if it's lower on the card.
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Well Brock is gone the night after so it doesn't really matter whether he's the only one or not. They can still say he made Taker mortal or some bullshit.

Taker doesn't need another win.

Woodzy said:
As old as Undertaker is, didn't he do a fairly good job against Brock last year? I struggle to remember because it's hard to look past anything but the shock ending when it comes to that match.

If Undetaker has to wrestle this year I'd rather it was against Brock again over anyone else. It's the only real way to make one more mach just that little less pointless.
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That match was horrendous. WWE have definitely done that match a service by making out it was ten straight minutes of F5's.
 
Woodzy said:
As old as Undertaker is, didn't he do a fairly good job against Brock last year? I struggle to remember because it's hard to look past anything but the shock ending when it comes to that match.

If Undetaker has to wrestle this year I'd rather it was against Brock again over anyone else. It's the only real way to make one more mach just that little less pointless.
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It was a horrible match. Though Taker got a concussion fairly early on and actually collapsed backstage afterwards due to it, so unsure if the match was bad because of that or because he just can't do it anymore
 
soap said:
Really can't see what you're getting at all with this. It'd be like having Stone Cold come back and jobbing to Fandango.
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No it wouldn't as Fandango is a midcarder. It would be more like Austin putting Ambrose over.

Look at it this way, having yesteryears main eventers go over guys on the rise effectively says these guys are shit compared to those in the past, even when they're 50 years old and the new guys are in their prime. What a shitty business model that is.
 
phelans shorts said:
No it wouldn't as Fandango is a midcarder. It would be more like Austin putting Ambrose over.

Look at it this way, having yesteryears main eventers go over guys on the rise effectively says these guys are shit compared to those in the past, even when they're 50 years old and the new guys are in their prime. What a shitty business model that is.
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Eh fair enough its your opinion, I absolutely hate the idea of Undertaker losing again at wrestlemania, for me it would completely undermine the streak which I thought was a really cool thing. To use your example, then,it would be like Stone Cold coming back and jobbing to Ambrose, and then having another match against Ziggler and losing that too.
 
Brock against Taker for the title at WM would be amazing. Taker wins it from a tombstone piledriver after resurrecting from a devastating F5. After he wins, he then retires on a high by leaving the belt in the ring as he heads into the tunnel. Would be a worthy finish after last years debacle.
 
soap said:
Eh fair enough its your opinion, I absolutely hate the idea of Undertaker losing again at wrestlemania, for me it would completely undermine the streak which I thought was a really cool thing. To use your example, then,it would be like Stone Cold coming back and jobbing to Ambrose, and then having another match against Ziggler and losing that too.
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Again, it wouldn't. It would be like him coming back to lose to a monster heel then Ambrose. Not Ambrose and then a complete jabroni like Ziggler.

rio's upper lip said:
Brock against Taker for the title at WM would be amazing. Taker wins it from a tombstone piledriver after resurrecting from a devastating F5. After he wins, he then retires on a high by leaving the belt in the ring as he heads into the tunnel. Would be a worthy finish after last years debacle.
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I think I just threw up in my mouth. That's atrocious.
 
phelans shorts said:
Again, it wouldn't. It would be like him coming back to lose to a monster heel then Ambrose. Not Ambrose and then a complete jabroni like Ziggler.
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Well whatever you think of Ziggler he's well on his way to becoming a main eventer so the analogy stands. The bolded bit would be absolutely horrible either way. My point is, you're saying Undertaker losing doesn't hurt anyone when it obviously hurts Undertaker. You might say that doesn't matter because he's only gonna wrestle like 2 more times at best, so I'm saying, by that logic we may as well have Shawn Michaels come back for one match and job to AJ Lee to give the Divas division credibility or something. Hyperbole aside hopefully that clarifies what I'm getting at.
 
Some awesome moments on that Raw:

  • Reunion stuff was really enjoyable, always awesome to see the APA and clothesline from hell :drool:
  • Absolute joke that yet again Kidd and Cesaro were jobbed out to The New fecking Day. These guys look great together yet for some reason the WWE are instant on not pushing them as single competitors and now decided "let's stick them together and shit on them both at once".
  • Lesnar is a fecking beast, but we all knew that already. That ending was immense, Lesnar just destroying everything in sight. It's one of the rare times I'm now going into a triple threat truly believing any of them could walk out with the belt. Honestly though, I'm really hoping they don't have Lesnar drop the belt at the Rumble but I'm starting to think it's going to happen.
  • Stop fecking chanting CM Punk, it became tiring close to a year ago, stop with the bollocks.
  • So awesome to have Bryan back, can only hope he wins the Rumble.
  • Orton is no doubt returning at the Rumble, will be interesting to see if it's in the title match or the Rumble itself, the pop will be massive.
 
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