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Just a thought.

If I was WWE and I didn't want my crowning of the next "guy" to go badly, I wouldn't bring a fan favourite back to job to him whilst his popularity is already debatable.
 
Bryan to make his announcement, Lesnar to turn up and try to attack him, Reigns/Cena interference.

I hope that doesn't happen.
 
I hate how Rollins feud with Cena has gone. Much the same way as Bray and the worry i have for Rusev. Everybody gets destroyed by Cena and is made to look like a coward. Rollins, much like Bray had help of two others (at least against Bray, Cena used Usos) but Cena just ran through them. Twice. Just like that.

Reigns beating Big Show by Countout is terrible. Why couldnt he just beat him cleanly? They arent going to wrestle at Rumble so why protect Show. Even after Show pretty much squashed Rowan and ruined his character already.
 
There's no comparison at all, Batista wasn't being pushed as "the guy". Roman is. They are doing everything they can to protect Roman, Batista they didn't really give a shit about.

That's my point though, they had guys they were building, and next thing in comes Batista and they shat all over what, the last 7 months of work? They're well beyond sense by this stage.
 
feck sake.

That Christian stuff, pretty shitty way to announce he's retired. Total "It's... it's Christian." moment again.

Surely he's had a notable enough career to get a proper send off, do they fecking hate him, or something?
 
feck sake.

That Christian stuff, pretty shitty way to announce he's retired. Total "It's... it's Christian." moment again.

Surely he's had a notable enough career to get a proper send off, do they fecking hate him, or something?
He does seem to be treated as a joke for some reason. I'm guessing it's because he went to TNA and excelled.
 
Clearly giving them more mic time to let them build their character. I really like it.
We'll see, Raw has a tendency to do this then go back to the old formula the next week.
 
It was just so bizarrely out there that's all, seemed to be exactly what he said on TIJ too.

So fecking happy to see Barrett back :drool:
 
So fecking happy to see Barrett back :drool:

But not at the expense of Cesaro again ffs, give the man a break. I was so excited for him when I saw him sitting in the corner, I was thinking he was about to channel his inner Raven, but no it was just another tease. If they dont want to use him properly, please let him leave and go to NJPW
 
Reigns isn't there tonight, he's headlining a house show.


Oooops.

Not a bad RAW with some ups and downs. Barrett and Bryan both returning is good news, and Ryback was good. Also the Legion of Doom returning was a surprise :lol:

I agree about the Christian comments, he deserves/deserved a proper send off. Hopefully a quick induction to the Hall of Fame will do it.

I have mixed feelings about the ending, I just hope the story develops/is played out better this time. The constant screw jobs by the same people is getting boring and very predictable. Will be interesting to see how it effects all the main players.

When is Orton due back? The Rumble? I thought he was only off for a month?
 
Thought that turned out to be an awesome show in parts and incredibly got the returns of Barrett, Bryan and Stephanie all in one night :drool:

Quite excited to see Orton return too, the pop will be immense if they do it right.

If Bryan is legit healthy then they've got to do Bryan/Lesnar, no two doubts about it. They're in seriously deep shit if they have Reigns win now after that announcement, they've basically backed themselves into the exact same corner as last year with Batista and the problem in this case is that they can't afford having fans turn on Reigns in a similar way right now.

Hopefully they go with Bryan/Lesnar for Mania and then possibly Reigns/Rollins or even Reigns/Rollins/Ambrose. Reigns/Cena? Might be too early for that. This is the WWE though so don't be surprised if they go with Reigns/Lesnar instead.
 
Thought that turned out to be an awesome show in parts and incredibly got the returns of Barrett, Bryan and Stephanie all in one night :drool:

Quite excited to see Orton return too, the pop will be immense if they do it right.

If Bryan is legit healthy then they've got to do Bryan/Lesnar, no two doubts about it. They're in seriously deep shit if they have Reigns win now after that announcement, they've basically backed themselves into the exact same corner as last year with Batista and the problem in this case is that they can't afford having fans turn on Reigns in a similar way right now.

Hopefully they go with Bryan/Lesnar for Mania and then possibly Reigns/Rollins or even Reigns/Rollins/Ambrose. Reigns/Cena? Might be too early for that. This is the WWE though so don't be surprised if they go with Reigns/Lesnar instead.

Please not another bryan quest for the title/underdog storyline. Much rather have orton/lesnar or shield trio fighting it out at WM.
 
Daniel Bryan needs to win the Royal Rumble. feck everyone else, just feck them. That was amazing.
 
Great RAW I thought, made Rollins look like a star.

Delighted for Bryan too, a genuine feel good moment that.
 
So i take it HHH and Steph just fancied a holiday? their return last night made an even bigger mockery of WWE.com publishing the survivor series match as match of the year, but decent heel authority figures are probably the way forward....having said that.

Daniel Bryan will inevitably be screwed in the Rumble, full steam ahead for a number 1 entry and some kind of shitty screwjob elimination. brilliant.

What the feck was with Lesnar and Heyman coming out at the end of the show? seriously, what? And while i am on the subject, Why is Seth Rollins mentioning Lesnar every otiuher promo? if he continually said "i am watching the main events and waiting to pounce" it would make more sense then a heel contender atagonizing the heel champion who is billed as the baddest man that ever walked, not very smart from the man who is supposed to be the most intelligant man in sports entertainment (that made me feel dirty writing tha

On to the Ryback promo....what the feck was that? it was awful all beit a good idea. Rybacks delivary was wooden, he had clearly been told exactly what to say and how the actual feck did that set up a feud with Rusev? seriously, what the feck did any of that have to do with Rusev?

Let's move on to Cesaro being buried again, it was great to see BNB back but I don't know what Cesaro has done to piss off the higher ups, he's a great worker but he needs to start again and fast before he disappears completely.

And finally, Miz and Mizdow! So they lose the titles to the worlds most boring tag team, then follow this up by being squashed by the debuting Asscention, who don't get me wrong are a very good team, but where is the logic in the booking? tag champions lose the titles in a 20 plus minute match, then get beat by a debuting team while the szoozeo's ride off into the sunset with the titles? Mizdow is white hot right now, surely it makes more sense to keep the belts on them until the rumble match, have them both enter and have Mizdow eliminate Miz setting up a feud and actually capitilize on Mizdows momentum?

I know i am coming across as a grumpy bastard here but as enjoyable a show as it was this was Russo/Ferrara esque booking, they have zero clue what they are doing.
 
I love to hate Seth Rollins.

Great RAW I thought, made Rollins look like a star.

Delighted for Bryan too, a genuine feel good moment that.

"I'm going to kill him anyway."

Oh he's such a bastard.

He's nowhere near the level, but he's getting that Eddie Guerrero vibe, where you think they're an absolute arsehole, but can't stop watching them, to see what they'll do next, to see who will finally put them in their place. Excellent stuff. Lad's a star.

Let's move on to Cesaro being buried again, it was great to see BNB back but I don't know what Cesaro has done to piss off the higher ups, he's a great worker but he needs to start again and fast before he disappears completely.
Are they still fecking him about over those Cena/Orton comments, ffs? Wasting massive talent.


I don't mind the Authority back, but it all seems kinda pointless, "Remember the last few months?" "Aye?" "No need anymore, it's all irrelevant. Feck it."

Hope they do something good with Mizdow now, seems a bit of a waste to cut them off when they had such momentum.
 
I don't mind the Authority back, but it all seems kinda pointless, "Remember the last few months?" "Aye?" "No need anymore, it's all irrelevant. Feck it."
I think they need them though, with no Champ on the show they really lacked a focal point. The return was pretty well done too, and now we know what it takes for Cena to help out a mate. Paralysis.
 
So i take it HHH and Steph just fancied a holiday? their return last night made an even bigger mockery of WWE.com publishing the survivor series match as match of the year, but decent heel authority figures are probably the way forward....having said that.

How does them returning (as they were always going to) make a mockery of a matches quality?

What the feck was with Lesnar and Heyman coming out at the end of the show? seriously, what?

Anyone would think they were building to a match between Lesnar and Cena. It's crazy right!

And while i am on the subject, Why is Seth Rollins mentioning Lesnar every otiuher promo? if he continually said "i am watching the main events and waiting to pounce" it would make more sense then a heel contender atagonizing the heel champion who is billed as the baddest man that ever walked, not very smart from the man who is supposed to be the most intelligant man in sports entertainment (that made me feel dirty writing that

Anyone would think that Rollins has an option to face Lesnar at any time, whether Lesnar is ready or not. It's crazy right!

On to the Ryback promo....what the feck was that? it was awful all beit a good idea. Rybacks delivary was wooden, he had clearly been told exactly

It's Ryback telling his legitimate backstory, as he did on Jericho's podcast, which has made him more popular than he's ever been to a very large portion of the fanbase.

what to say and how the actual feck did that set up a feud with Rusev? seriously, what the feck did any of that have to do with Rusev?

He's working his way up the card, with the US title as a stop on the way. It's finally a Rusev programme that has him as a heel and not just Russia bad America good.

Let's move on to Cesaro being buried again, it was great to see BNB back but I don't know what Cesaro has done to piss off the higher ups, he's a great worker but he needs to start again and fast before he disappears completely.

He's going nowhere. Literally. He only has himself to blame for repeatedly being a dick but he's safe from the sack at least.

And finally, Miz and Mizdow! So they lose the titles to the worlds most boring tag team, then follow this up by being squashed by the debuting Asscention, who don't get me wrong are a very good team, but where is the logic in the booking? tag champions lose the titles in a 20 plus minute match, then get beat by a debuting team while the szoozeo's ride off into the sunset with the titles? Mizdow is white hot right now, surely it makes more sense to keep the belts on them until the rumble match, have them both enter and have Mizdow eliminate Miz setting up a feud and actually capitilize on Mizdows momentum?

Miz and Mizdow was a comedy act that is going nowhere. Why keep the belts on them? Why put the belts on them in the first place? The Uso's are miles better than them in every sense. Same could be said for the Ascension, the first team who's gimmick has stemmed from fans trying to entertain themselves during their terrible matches.
 
Cesaro really didn't do himself any favours when he fecked up by saying "four ropes" and attempted to correct himself in the lamest possible way. Derailed his own segment.
 
How does them returning (as they were always going to) make a mockery of a matches quality?
It has zero effect on the quality of said match, but it does take away from the consequence of the match which is the primary reason for it being 'voted' match of the year.


Anyone would think they were building to a match between Lesnar and Cena. It's crazy right!

Yes, they are but they did that earlier in the night, there was no need at all for them to be out at the end of the show.

Anyone would think that Rollins has an option to face Lesnar at any time, whether Lesnar is ready or not. It's crazy right!

All the more reason to keep the two apart and not stand there like best buds at the end of the show, does lesnar have anything to do with the authority? does he have anything to do with their return? Rollins should mention him yes, but it's the way he is bringing him up that is irking me, i just can't put my finger on it but it isn't sitting right with me, it makes no sense at all for Rollins to cash in on Lesnar, he should be distancing himself from Lesnar and looking to cash in on a victorious Cena IMO.


It's Ryback telling his legitimate backstory, as he did on Jericho's podcast, which has made him more popular than he's ever been to a very large portion of the fanbase.

No, you misunderstand me, yes i understand it is his legitimate backstory, i also understand that it was painfully scripted and memorised aqnd delivered in a way that made Maria's acting in 2005-ish look oscar worthy.

He's working his way up the card, with the US title as a stop on the way. It's finally a Rusev programme that has him as a heel and not just Russia bad America good.

Again, i very much get that but this was a promo from nowhere, with no relevance to setting up a feud and seemingly very little rhyme and reason to it, perhaps it was a well designed promo but perhaps it should have been delivered a couple of weeks down the line in response to a Rusev/Lana promo about how hard they have found it since their arrival and Rybacks personal life could be brought in then insetead. rather then "you know what, i got fired, then i got rehired, then i broke my ankle and worked through it eventually breaking my leg and now i'm ryback and i'm going to fight Rusev"

He's going nowhere. Literally. He only has himself to blame for repeatedly being a dick but he's safe from the sack at least.

That's true to be fair, but it frustrates me to see such talent going to waste.

Miz and Mizdow was a comedy act that is going nowhere. Why keep the belts on them? Why put the belts on them in the first place? The Uso's are miles better than them in every sense. Same could be said for the Ascension, the first team who's gimmick has stemmed from fans trying to entertain themselves during their terrible matches.
Well.....Yeah but at the same time No. yes they were originally a comedy act but Mizdow has done so well to get himself white hot that he doesn't deserve his momentum to be stopped in the way it was, i mean FFS it's booking 101, everybody hates Miz, everybody loves his tag team partner Mizdow. they were Tag Team champions going into the Rumble, The popular guy eliminates the unpopular leader guy, leader guy goes crazy and in retaliation eliminates the other guy illegally, they split with bad blood, the titles are vacated and teams go into a tournement in which we see the Asscention debut which actually showcases their wrestling skills, instead of a squash match against the former champions. The tournement ends at the Feb PPV on the road to wrestlemania potentially starting another tag feud and the Miz Vs Mizdow goes through to Mania. tell me that doesn't make more sense?

EDIT: I have no idea what i did there so i bolded my retorts.
 
Well.....Yeah but at the same time No. yes they were originally a comedy act but Mizdow has done so well to get himself white hot that he doesn't deserve his momentum to be stopped in the way it was, i mean FFS it's booking 101, everybody hates Miz, everybody loves his tag team partner Mizdow. they were Tag Team champions going into the Rumble, The popular guy eliminates the unpopular leader guy, leader guy goes crazy and in retaliation eliminates the other guy illegally, they split with bad blood, the titles are vacated and teams go into a tournement in which we see the Asscention debut which actually showcases their wrestling skills, instead of a squash match against the former champions. The tournement ends at the Feb PPV on the road to wrestlemania potentially starting another tag feud and the Miz Vs Mizdow goes through to Mania. tell me that doesn't make more sense?

EDIT: I have no idea what i did there so i bolded my retorts.


You lost me at "Ascension debut which actually showcases their wrestling skills" tbh.

Mizdow is no more than a comedy act. Why would you have them in a Rumble match and not put them in a tag title match? It makes no sense, if you take them out of the tag picture (as they should be) they can still do the other stuff.
 
You lost me at "Ascension debut which actually showcases their wrestling skills" tbh.

Mizdow is no more than a comedy act. Why would you have them in a Rumble match and not put them in a tag title match? It makes no sense, if you take them out of the tag picture (as they should be) they can still do the other stuff.
What? Mizdow is a superb talent and should not be underestimated. they would also still be in a tag title match, it isn't uncommen to be in a match on the card and be in the rumble match, mizdow eliminating miz would start the break end and the feud.

If there was a tag tournement after the titles would be vacated then the Asscention would make their debut in the tournement and showcase their wrestling skills to the raw/smackdown audience (meaning the guys that don't regularly watch NXT) and Not make their Raw debut in a five minute squash match like they did last night.
 
And finally, Miz and Mizdow! So they lose the titles to the worlds most boring tag team, then follow this up by being squashed by the debuting Asscention, who don't get me wrong are a very good team, but where is the logic in the booking? tag champions lose the titles in a 20 plus minute match, then get beat by a debuting team while the szoozeo's ride off into the sunset with the titles?

Clearly putting the belts on the Ascension and need them to beat a face team. Transitional Champions, like when Kofi took the US title of Cesaro, so he could drop it to Ambrose