What's the best way to watch raw as it comes out? Love the network but waiting a month for raw to go up is a pain in the ass. You can watch the ppv before the build up.
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How do you watch most TV shows on the internet?
I just use netflix tbh.
watchwrestling.ch is a site I've reported to the authorities many times.
It was a meh RAW placeholder episode with nothing progressing. None of the matches impressed either. And the Wyatt promo was totally weird!
Though I really like the way they pushed Dean and Rollins up a level. They are now hobnobbing with Cena and Lesnar...something which I initially thought was tagged to Reigns. The support for Ambrose is just awesome.
I'm really looking forward to a rift in the Authority with Kane/Orton breaking out. Kane match was horrible and he really should stop wrestling. Sad to see his fine career is reduced to jobbing for next stars.
Though I really like the way they pushed Dean and Rollins up a level. They are now hobnobbing with Cena and Lesnar...something which I initially thought was tagged to Reigns. The support for Ambrose is just awesome.
I'm really looking forward to a rift in the Authority with Kane/Orton breaking out. Kane match was horrible and he really should stop wrestling. Sad to see his fine career is reduced to jobbing for next stars.
Recently released WWE writer Kevin Marshall called into Wrestling Observer Live earlier this week and gave some fascinating insight regarding the creative process involved in producing WWE television. In light of ongoing reports that WWE (specifically, Vince McMahon) is constantly rewriting scrips for RAW, even while the show is the air, Marshall vented about Vince McMahon "micromanaging everything to death" -
“Basically everything is micromanaged to death and I know there is a lot of talk of ‘they’ over there when we talk about the writing process for the show. It is no secret that the buck stops with Vince, but when I was there, and I guess that this started sometime before even I started there back last October, he was micromanaging everything to death. Basically you’re sitting there trying to write for him and you’re trying to figure out what he wants. The job became very quickly trying to figure out what Vince is thinking and then having him tell you he’s changed his mind. So when we talk about the show being rewritten as it’s happening, what I need people to know is that that show was likely written well in advance and there was an attempt at it, but either nothing was approved or everything got scrapped and rewritten by the man himself.”
Marshall said that the creative team works under a constant aura of uncertainty, knowing that they are writing specifically to please Vince McMahon, not necessarily what they think is the most compelling material. He described Vince McMahon’s reaction to finalized scripts “a crapshoot.” Sometimes, production meetings go smoothly and are done in under an hour. Often, extensive rewrites are made.
Another big issue is that the creative team has become fragmented into two main groups. One group of writers works full time at WWE headquarters in Stamford, Connecticut, while another team is constantly on the road with WWE and assists with the production of the shows and the ongoing revisions. Marshall believes the creative division needs to be overhauled and streamlined.
When asked about the biggest misconceptions that fans have of the creative team, Marshall explained that the writers don't pick and choose who should be pushed and who shouldn't - and said fans need to realize how difficult it is to create at least 7+ hours of fresh programming each week.
“Basically everything is micromanaged to death and I know there is a lot of talk of ‘they’ over there when we talk about the writing process for the show. It is no secret that the buck stops with Vince, but when I was there, and I guess that this started sometime before even I started there back last October, he was micromanaging everything to death. Basically you’re sitting there trying to write for him and you’re trying to figure out what he wants. The job became very quickly trying to figure out what Vince is thinking and then having him tell you he’s changed his mind. So when we talk about the show being rewritten as it’s happening, what I need people to know is that that show was likely written well in advance and there was an attempt at it, but either nothing was approved or everything got scrapped and rewritten by the man himself.”
Marshall said that the creative team works under a constant aura of uncertainty, knowing that they are writing specifically to please Vince McMahon, not necessarily what they think is the most compelling material. He described Vince McMahon’s reaction to finalized scripts “a crapshoot.” Sometimes, production meetings go smoothly and are done in under an hour. Often, extensive rewrites are made.
Another big issue is that the creative team has become fragmented into two main groups. One group of writers works full time at WWE headquarters in Stamford, Connecticut, while another team is constantly on the road with WWE and assists with the production of the shows and the ongoing revisions. Marshall believes the creative division needs to be overhauled and streamlined.
When asked about the biggest misconceptions that fans have of the creative team, Marshall explained that the writers don't pick and choose who should be pushed and who shouldn't - and said fans need to realize how difficult it is to create at least 7+ hours of fresh programming each week.
“Well, I think the biggest misconception is that we sit around and we decide who gets pushed and who doesn’t, that we sit there and lay out what the tent poles are going to be for the year, like ‘hey, John Cena should win the title, blah blah blah’. We don’t make those decisions, we don’t make those calls on finishes, we don’t sit there and hold talent back.
I think that’s the biggest misconception is the idea that we just sit around and we bury talent and we try to come up with ideas to make everybody look stupid. That’s certainly not the case! Just speaking from a writer’s perspective, I never met anybody who was in the business of trying to make somebody else look bad. I think it’s very easy when you watch our product, and I think just when you watch professional wrestling in general, to get the impression that wow, they’re really going out of their way to make this guy look stupid.
It’s really just a combination of things: 1) There’s a lot of politics that goes on behind the scenes that the creative team is not in control of; [and] 2) There are certain guys that probably are their own worst enemy, as we all are, myself included.
It’s a lot, lot harder than it looks, especially when you have a limited roster, which when you thumb through it on WWE.com that roster looks huge, [but] when you lay it down on a piece of paper and you have to fill like sixteen segments for Monday and then twelve for Tuesday, which is Smackdown, and then you have Main Event and Superstars and everything, it’s really, really hard.”
I think that’s the biggest misconception is the idea that we just sit around and we bury talent and we try to come up with ideas to make everybody look stupid. That’s certainly not the case! Just speaking from a writer’s perspective, I never met anybody who was in the business of trying to make somebody else look bad. I think it’s very easy when you watch our product, and I think just when you watch professional wrestling in general, to get the impression that wow, they’re really going out of their way to make this guy look stupid.
It’s really just a combination of things: 1) There’s a lot of politics that goes on behind the scenes that the creative team is not in control of; [and] 2) There are certain guys that probably are their own worst enemy, as we all are, myself included.
It’s a lot, lot harder than it looks, especially when you have a limited roster, which when you thumb through it on WWE.com that roster looks huge, [but] when you lay it down on a piece of paper and you have to fill like sixteen segments for Monday and then twelve for Tuesday, which is Smackdown, and then you have Main Event and Superstars and everything, it’s really, really hard.”
So McMahon is tanking WWE because he has no competition forcing him to be better.
As much fun as one would imagine for a creative writer for WWE, the politics make the job untenable.
Need Shane-o-Mac back to run the company.
As much fun as one would imagine for a creative writer for WWE, the politics make the job untenable.
Need Shane-o-Mac back to run the company.
Ambrose vs Rollins was fun. The add on's like Cena, Orton, Kane make it a bore. Now we've had 2 tag eteam matches that Rollins interfered and won. How many more? Get all of them out and let the new stars shine!
Everybody that gets hot, gets stuck with Cena or in a match or storyline with Cena. Most of the time the momentum dies or Cena ends up taking over.
Zack Ryder (cena kissed his girl and still stayed the face. How?)
Ziggler (Cena beat him eventually)
AJ Lee (ties in with above, had to get romantically involved somehow)
Daniel Bryan (lost to Bryan but - thankfully momentum stayed but mostly cos he wasnt in the title picture whilst Orton/Cena was)
Wyatt (lost 2-1 to Cena in big matches esp WM)
Punk (beat Cena to win title, 2 months later Cena is champ. In fact main evented most of Punks reign)
Reigns was being put with Cena recently and now Rollins and Ambrose (tag and opponent)
Zack Ryder (cena kissed his girl and still stayed the face. How?)
Ziggler (Cena beat him eventually)
AJ Lee (ties in with above, had to get romantically involved somehow)
Daniel Bryan (lost to Bryan but - thankfully momentum stayed but mostly cos he wasnt in the title picture whilst Orton/Cena was)
Wyatt (lost 2-1 to Cena in big matches esp WM)
Punk (beat Cena to win title, 2 months later Cena is champ. In fact main evented most of Punks reign)
Reigns was being put with Cena recently and now Rollins and Ambrose (tag and opponent)
Cena = $$$$ and as soon as everyone realises this the better. If you want good wrestling watch NJPW or ROH, WWE is a cash cow and that is it, Cena is a corporate shill
Funny thing is I dont even mind Cena. He cuts some of the best serious promos.
I dont agree with the statement "If you want good wrestling watch NJPW or ROH," cos you get really good wrestling / storytelling within WWE and NXT.
I dont agree with the statement "If you want good wrestling watch NJPW or ROH," cos you get really good wrestling / storytelling within WWE and NXT.
Think there was no one to take over from him. I cetainly don't see Ryder or Zigger as the 'face of WWE'. CM Punk never was in a good relationshp with WWE and I think they never saw him as a long term prospect. If not for the injury Bryan would be up there...adn so will Reigns. The fact that Ambrose and Rollins are there is a step on next gen taking over as they just could not write Cena off script so simply. Milking revenues generated by him also plays a huge part.
Reigns won't stay at the top. Fans just aren't that behind him to the levels WWE wants, and they won't be able to force the issue again like the did with Cena, because Cena WAS a star, so was easier to force him into a superstar. Reigns is struggling to be a star despite being forced into it, Ambrose/Rollins are way above him right now organically, Rollins the more likely to given the top spot out of them two.
I think they'll still hand him a ME push to WM and beyond. But I don't think it lasts.
I think they'll still hand him a ME push to WM and beyond. But I don't think it lasts.
I dont hate Cena and my point was more of WWE making mistakes than this being against Cena (and a problem in that they need to put them or align them with Cena when its not really needed)
Wyatt is the biggest one. He could have beaten Cena in the feud (blow off match) and come off looking great. Instead he lost and then loses his first match to Jericho which was bizarre.
Im not saying ryder should be main event, but Ryder is the biggest example of why people should say FU to WWE veterans who say dont wait for your chance, you gotta just take it. Ryder did exactly that, got him self over, got him self popular despite not being on TV, got his name chanted when he wasnt there and even in MSG when rock was promoing after his return. And WWE goes and embarrasses him on TV and makes him lose and look like a chump to the point hes worthless.
Would like to see Rollins beat Cena but lose to Ambrose which would be great. But then cash in (maybe night after WM) and become champ. Instantly you have Rollins as champ and Ambrose who has beaten him, whilst also having Bryan to come back and the champ who he beats as number one contenders vying for Rollins.
Wyatt is the biggest one. He could have beaten Cena in the feud (blow off match) and come off looking great. Instead he lost and then loses his first match to Jericho which was bizarre.
Im not saying ryder should be main event, but Ryder is the biggest example of why people should say FU to WWE veterans who say dont wait for your chance, you gotta just take it. Ryder did exactly that, got him self over, got him self popular despite not being on TV, got his name chanted when he wasnt there and even in MSG when rock was promoing after his return. And WWE goes and embarrasses him on TV and makes him lose and look like a chump to the point hes worthless.
Would like to see Rollins beat Cena but lose to Ambrose which would be great. But then cash in (maybe night after WM) and become champ. Instantly you have Rollins as champ and Ambrose who has beaten him, whilst also having Bryan to come back and the champ who he beats as number one contenders vying for Rollins.
Anyone know if the listings on WWE Network can be watched On Demand?
My friends and I basically want to take it upon ourselves to watch episodes chronologically, as opposed to be being forced to watch what they show each day.
My friends and I basically want to take it upon ourselves to watch episodes chronologically, as opposed to be being forced to watch what they show each day.
So what's the craic with the UK wwe network?
Delayed until November at least I think
Suppose this will be something to do with the recent deal they signed with Sky. Surprised they did so considering the Network was on the verge of starting at the time.
Probably might end up on TV (like ondemand as well) instead of just online.
Ambrose was amazing on Raw this week.
"Uh-oh, they've sent the cruiser weight division out to get me"
"Uh-oh, they've sent the cruiser weight division out to get me"
Sky released some statement/tweet to say that the WWE network will not be a sky channel and assured viewers that WWE TV and pay per views would still be available through them when the network gets launched in the UK.
Doubt they'll get a lot of PPV buys given the fact they charge 15 quid a pop for something you will get for 6 or 9 or however much it is per month.
Cena biggin up Ambrose?
That music hits and I suddenly feel 9 again.
IF YA SMELLLLL
IF YA SMELLLLL
That was a shock. Always great to see Rocky though.
Almost makes up for the first two hours. Always great to see Rock.
Surprise returns are always that little bit better imo. Crowd was hot for Rock in a big way. Lawler always gets me during Rock segments, he's genuinely cracking up with laughter.
Did not expect that at all! A windfall for Rusev.
Which tells you all you need to know about how outdated his whole shtick is.
The greatest superstar they've ever had. Argue all you like about his ability as a wrestler, but as an entertainer, no one comes close. The WWE are incredibly lucky he still actually gives a shit about them, he's moved on to much bigger and better things, might be a toned down Rock in this era, but still puts every single current superstar to shame.
Who do you think is better than Rock currently?
fecking hell that's made my night.
*Thousands cheer*
I'm enjoying Sandow turning chicken shit into chicken salad every week much more than seeing The Rock come back and run though his old routine yet again.
After he stunk up the place throughout 2012/2013, I have absolutely no interest in Rock.
I cringed at him calling a person in a rather fetching dress a street walker tbh.
The million and millions of Rock fans disagree with you Certainly Brooklyn loved it!
Certainly Brooklyn loved it!The Cena vs Ambrose is worst matchup ever. Why are they using a PPV main event as a qualification match? Why the hell can't Rollins fight? Losing once isn't going to kill the feud!
And where is Lesnar?
And where is Lesnar?
He is fighting, they have the opener most likely to decide who gets him.
If I was there I'd have marked out, but in hindsight...The million and millions of Rock fans disagree with you
Personally I am more than happy to have the Rock back whenever he wants to return.
It sure beats watching Cena's repetitive shit, the Exotic Express, the Bunny and Adam Rose, Hornswoggle vs El Torito, Reigns trying to cut a promo, the Bellas, and quite a lot that WWE has served up since Summerslam(which was a very good PPV).
Rock's surprise return and Ambrose being featured throughout the show ending up with the HIAC matches being made is what made Raw decent last night.
It sure beats watching Cena's repetitive shit, the Exotic Express, the Bunny and Adam Rose, Hornswoggle vs El Torito, Reigns trying to cut a promo, the Bellas, and quite a lot that WWE has served up since Summerslam(which was a very good PPV).
Rock's surprise return and Ambrose being featured throughout the show ending up with the HIAC matches being made is what made Raw decent last night.
Guys who would have got a larger pop at that moment:
- Steve Austin
- Kurt Angle
- CM Punk
Edit: Possibly Taker too
- Steve Austin
- Kurt Angle
- CM Punk
Edit: Possibly Taker too