Television Tho Prop Grops Throps

[Cantonarightboot]

I really liked Lance, stellar wrestler, and if you believe Jericho, we probably never even saw half of what he could do.

As for Larry, isn't the current WWE champion named Daniel?

Still not as bad as Larry!!

Yeah I like Lance Storm, had some great matches in particular in ECW.

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Tbf, Daniel Bryan is just underwhelming. Great wrestler, but a need a bit more character oomph.

 

[Big-Red]

Tbf, Daniel Bryan is just underwhelming. Great wrestler, but a need a bit more character oomph.

He had it, then became the top babyface in the company.

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Adding anyone to the Shield would be a terrible choice. The time is right for them to either sink or swim.

It'll be a good strategy to make them bigger. Get a three man team as a sub stable from NXT to be Shields enforcers. Overall they can be a 5 man team a la Nexus, which breaks into 2+3 as situation demands. Zayn, Neville and maybe one more. Give them camo outfits, call them Hounds or something.

 

[MoneyMay]

That isn't a good idea at all - they're about to break up. The Shield are unique. No point of adding Bryan, or any other superstar, to the group. It has to be someone who we have never seen before.

As for Bryan, he's a very good wrestler, but thus far he's shown that he's better at being the guy who chases for the title and has large support behind him, as opposed to being the "top guy" in the company. Him being booked to have matches with Kane is not understandable. Strip him off his belt, have a few wrestlers battle for it or something, and then start the whole process of him chasing after it again.

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Is there anyone as reliable when it comes to wrestling as Kane? He's never injured and is on point with his moves. Terrific role model.

 

[Silent_Running]

Is there anyone as reliable when it comes to wrestling as Kane? He's never injured and is on point with his moves. Terrific role model.

Nope, excellent worker. It's a shame they destroyed his credibility somewhat as a monster heel, but on the other hand gimmicks like that can't last forever. Then again why couldn't he have been protected like the Undertaker has been?

 

[Big-Red]

Worst part about the Bryan and Kane thing is the fact they haven't tried to call back to Team Hell No. Just have Bryan try to bargain with Kane, add a little will he won't he to the storyline.

 

[Earthquake]

Is there anyone as reliable when it comes to wrestling as Kane? He's never injured and is on point with his moves. Terrific role model.

Was always willing to job(or give someone a push, drop into mid table, etc), and cares more about the company than himself. Turned down numerous titles, and IIRC the streak.

Weirdest of all, is how intelligent he is(whether you agree with his political leanings or not, he's smart as feck). Never would have imagined of all the wrestlers, the big psycho demon and the alco bar brawlers(Bradshaw and Austin) would turn out to be by far the most sensible of people outside the ring. Perhaps followed by Jericho(Jericho's fecked up plenty, but knew when to wind down, and set himself up well for like outside the ring) and Storm.

 

[Nighteyes]

I think Kane was under utilized on the mike. When he was given the chance he was usually excellent.

 

[Earthquake]

Same with the Undertaker, I guess it didn't suit their personas, but they really were excellent talkers too.

 

[mic.m]

Was always willing to job(or give someone a push, drop into mid table, etc), and cares more about the company than himself. Turned down numerous titles, and IIRC the streak.

Weirdest of all, is how intelligent he is(whether you agree with his political leanings or not, he's smart as feck). Never would have imagined of all the wrestlers, the big psycho demon and the alco bar brawlers(Bradshaw and Austin) would turn out to be by far the most sensible of people outside the ring. Perhaps followed by Jericho(Jericho's fecked up plenty, but knew when to wind down, and set himself up well for like outside the ring) and Storm.

I thought Bradshaw was an asshole who was hated by his peers.

 

[Earthquake]

I thought Bradshaw was an asshole who was hated by his peers.

Pretty much.

 

[Ole'sbodyguard]

Don't think Bradshaw was hated by his peers. Wrestlers like him and Holly had a reputation for being hard on the younger wrestlers, who had not gone through the territory system(e.g. Miz,) but I think he was liked and respected by the rest. Shawn Micheals in the 90's is the only wrestler I can think of who was despised by pretty much everyone bar his boss and Kliq buddies and even they will admit he was a total prick in that time period.

 

[MoneyMay]

Nope, excellent worker. It's a shame they destroyed his credibility somewhat as a monster heel, but on the other hand gimmicks like that can't last forever. Then again why couldn't he have been protected like the Undertaker has been?

I, too, share a similar opinion and think his status should have been higher than what WWE offered him. You're right, but maybe his ego just wasn't that big to push for something that would elevate his status? I've only realised recently that he's a hard and loyal worker, and doesn't moan. He knows his role, is experienced, and safe in the ring.

Worst part about the Bryan and Kane thing is the fact they haven't tried to call back to Team Hell No. Just have Bryan try to bargain with Kane, add a little will he won't he to the storyline.

It's unbelievably bad. Bryan and Kane were immense when they were together. Not so much now because there's no point in having a feud between the two. Kane's lost a lot of credibility lately. To make things worse, Cena completely annihilated the number one contender (Kane) last week.

However, this is worse:

Spoiler: major lulz

Was always willing to job(or give someone a push, drop into mid table, etc), and cares more about the company than himself. Turned down numerous titles, and IIRC the streak.

Weirdest of all, is how intelligent he is(whether you agree with his political leanings or not, he's smart as feck). Never would have imagined of all the wrestlers, the big psycho demon and the alco bar brawlers(Bradshaw and Austin) would turn out to be by far the most sensible of people outside the ring. Perhaps followed by Jericho(Jericho's fecked up plenty, but knew when to wind down, and set himself up well for like outside the ring) and Storm.

I think Kane was under utilized on the mike. When he was given the chance he was usually excellent.

Agreed.

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Back to my first post on this page, if they are going to add someone to The Shield, it has to be someone we haven't seen before. CM Punk would have been perfect, but that's not a possibility. Someone like Corey Graves would work IMO.

 

[Zarlak]

Adrian Neville. Although they won't add anyone.

 

[Earthquake]

The Shied need to be rosebuds, Evolution are clearly lemons.

 

[phelans shorts]

Back to my first post on this page, if they are going to add someone to The Shield, it has to be someone we haven't seen before. CM Punk would have been perfect, but that's not a possibility. Someone like Corey Graves would work IMO.

Adding anyone to the Shield wouldn't work. As for Graves if he was added he'd be a jobber within 6 months (not complaining, anything to get him off my tv is a positive in my books) as he'd naturally be compared to Ambrose, and there's only going to be one winner in that comparison.

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Adrian Neville. Although they won't add anyone.

I just watched his match with Tyson Kidd again. Looks totally choreographed. Lots of matching dives, rolls and jumps. Totally unrealistic for the big stage. He maybe needs a couple more jobber appearances before hitting the main events, just for experience.

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Adding anyone to the Shield wouldn't work.

Well, the Shield was the top baby face around, more than Bryan and Cena. Now with Cena part timing and Bryan out, we are out of top faces. Evolution and Wyatt family takes good care of heels, so I still think Shield needs to survive.

Tbf, I would have preferred Sheamus in Evolution far more than Rollins. Criminally under utilised nowadays and would have been a perfect fit with Orton.

Edit: Even Ryback would have been better.

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Alternatively a new team of heels can be bought in to feud with Evolution. A new Nation of Domination with Big E, R Truth Henry and Kofi. The heel feud for domination can be a stop gap till the face team gets its act back.

 

[Cantonarightboot]

How about adding Prince Devitt to The Shield?

Just a thought!

 

[Minkaro]

I don't think a heel vs. heel feud would work. Either the fans would pick a side, leading to a "face by default" situation, or they'd just boo everybody.

In other news, I watched this match:



Excellent stuff. Sadly the finish isn't great, although the idea is there. I'll stick that in a spoiler in case anyone wants to watch it "fresh" (either because they've not seen it before, or because they don't remember it).

Spoiler

Lesnar swings Benoit into the referee who dies. The reason I say the idea is there is because if Benoit had "kicked" the ref in the head, there'd be an excuse for him to be down holding his head and missing everything. As it is, the ref goes down having been hit in the hip/ribs, and this blinds him for some reason.

 

[phelans shorts]

HECK YES BROTHERS

 

[Cantonarightboot]

HECK YES BROTHERS

 

[Duffy]

They'd have to change their name from The Shield to The Frame...The walking frame!

Can I get a hell yeah for Shit jokes!

 

[Earthquake]

I can't see how adding Hulk Hogan to a popular stable could fail.

 

[JinnerJamie]

Talk of Bryan dropping the belt tonight doing the rounds, doctors will not clear him to wrestle MITB.

 

[Minkaro]

The rumour I just saw was two MITB matches - one for the title, one for the briefcase.

 

[peanuthead]

Cena teams up with the shield vs the wyatts for tonights main event.

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Yup, Bryan is dropping the belt. Brie's antics were for naught.

 

[Cantonarightboot]

Well that sucks for Bryan, feel for him really do.

Just not meant to get a genuine run as champ it seems... if rumors are to be believed his neck injuries are very serious, could be long time before we see him again.

 

[Zarlak]

'when Reigns and Ambrose said believe in The Shield, Rollins was saying be leavin The Shield'

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Feckin' Sheamus going over Barrett again... Barrett is an infintely more interesting character at the moment whilst Sheamus needs a do-over... badly.

 

[Cantonarightboot]

Feckin' Sheamus going over Barrett again... Barrett is an infintely more interesting character at the moment whilst Sheamus needs a do-over... badly.

Yep, Super Shameus at it again! Sad really, that for me was awful booking. BNB on a great little run of late and could of really put him on the cusp of something greater.

 

[Scorpy]

How shit is Rollins' theme music? Thought Cesaro's generic music was bad enough when he left the Real Americans but WWE really outdid themselves with Rollins.

 

[Earthquake]

Neither of them are winning the title, so Barrett is better off getting involved in his own deal, rather than basically main event jobbing, which is what the fella will be doing now. Berried all round.

 

[Mister_Stubbs]

Agree with the views on Sheamus. He needs to be sent away (claim injured or what ever) and just totally reinvent him. He has become stale. That 10 chest thump on the ropes has become the most repetitive move to date. Take Barrett for example, before the gave him the BNB segment you could say he was a bit stale but since they revamped him he has gone on to become some what a favorite among many, maybe a similar type of make over would benefit Sheamus.

Oh and on the Daniel Bryan note, I personally don't like the bloke.. he's character, the whole yes movement blah blah blah but gheez the guy can't catch a break can he? I do feel sorry for him, he has had he's dream snatched from him due to injury but at the same time I fail to see why some can't get the notion that we should have a fighting champion.

 

[Cantonarightboot]

Neither of them are winning the title, so Barrett is better off getting involved in his own deal, rather than basically main event jobbing, which is what the fella will be doing now. Berried all round.

I agree neither are going to win the title but having some main event exposure would of been great for him... At least it gives us something fresh as well rather than having Shameus in the mix yet again!

Lost count how many times he has been in MITB & EC matches with a title shot on the line, yet he never gets it any more...

 

[Earthquake]

He'll probably be in the match for the briefcase now, which will be better, as he's absolutely a contender for that. He could do a hell of a lot of bad news segments with that case. Finishing up with, "I've got some bad news for you, I'm cashing in!"

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Neither of them are winning the title, so Barrett is better off getting involved in his own deal, rather than basically main event jobbing, which is what the fella will be doing now. Berried all round.

True - don't see who's around for Barrett to have a match with though (unless they go with RVD again - which I've no interest in... Christian might be back soon though apparently, so that could be interesting, though Christian is a much better heel then face).

Rollins should come out of MITB with the title - it would be the perfect legitimiser for his new run, and give people an immediate reason to take him seriously/care.

That, and it's a far more interesting alternative then anyone else in there.