Hopefully it works out better for Elias on smackdown but judging by his debut probably not. Balor should have been on smackdown from day one, Ricochet would look better on smackdown as a singles wrestler rather then tagging with Black on Raw, seems a big waste of talent for both. Kairi sane should be with Io Shirai and not Auska. Was there any need for the woman to be traded since they have unified the division by having Becky two belts.
Television Tho Prop Grops Throps
- Thread starter Big-Red
- Start date
I dont think they have unified the division. They still pretty much seem to indicate its two belts she has.
She'll be losing the Smackdown belt to someone because the Raw division has been no-one really (Alexa, Lacey, Ruby, Naomi, Sasha if she comes back) and Smackdown is stacked with talent (Charlotte, Bayley, Asuka, Ember, Kairi) so she is needed on Raw.
I feel like the Raw women's roster isn't too bad but the booking is just woeful. Sasha constantly looks like a chump, Ruby is the head of a chump brigade, Alexa doesn't compete, and Lacey was just step counting for three months. Not that they've been doing too much with the Smackdown's division. They were all firmly cast aside for the women's main event. Look at what they did to Asuka. Hated how that played out.
They’ve traded Liv Morgan to SD, so I wonder if they’re going to split up the Riott squad and push them both as singles wrestlers?
Saw Liv put something up on her insta thanking Ruby and Sarah for all they’d done for her and that they’ll always be the riot squad but for now they go their separate ways. So sounds like she is definetly going solo. Saw lots of replies from the Smackdown roster like Mandy Rose and that saying they’ll take care of her.
There’s potential in that Sonya from Smackdown. I like her presentation so far.
Yeah I think she should get a push. There is something about her in the ring. She has like a proper intensity and moves like a proper athlete with purpose. Would be good to see her get a sort of main player push instead of the sort of novelty act her and Mandy are. “the fall girls”
Then her wrestling does seem to be mostly just her strikes.
Ronda actually shat all over Sonya's gimmick in of her vlogs. Laughed at her MMA record and stuff.
Something tells me they value Mandy over Sonya though.
Something tells me they value Mandy over Sonya though.
Come on Shane, why something? Mandy is Vinces type 100%. Blonde and with big boobs, so yeah they do value her over Sonya.
The women’s division needs to be rebuild and in my opinion they should just merge it. Have a mid level belt too. As currently they haven’t got enough stars. Whoever is the champ should feud on one brand and then the other brand the next month.
I was being glib
I'm aware there are at least two big reasons why they are fond of Mandy.The women's division had so much potential, but as soon as they broke Asuka's streak it was downhill in terms of how competitive it was at the top end.
Charlotte and Ronda need to do so little to be considered for main events that they don't really need to push them. If they lost matches, no one would bat an eyelid at them getting multiple title matches a year for a long time. However, other women losing kind of just ruins their credibility in terms of being able to challenge the current 'big three'. They need to push some talent, but the mid-card is almost pointless in their division it feels. It's as if once you're there, you're stuck there unless you can form an interesting tag team.
There is some good talent that I think deserve a bigger shot and I'm surprised Vince hasn't pushed the likes of Liv Morgan or Mandy Rose yet, you'd have thought they'd be his kind of thing. I suppose Alexa Bliss will get back into the mix which is great, she's the best on the mic out of all the women and she has some ability as well thanks to her athletic background. Plus, she's good looking so Vince will allow it. I hope they give her more than they used to though, I know she's a great heel but I think she deserves to smash out a few clean wins against decent opponents as well. Not just cry wolf and sneak typical heel wins, she's better than that.
Charlotte and Ronda need to do so little to be considered for main events that they don't really need to push them. If they lost matches, no one would bat an eyelid at them getting multiple title matches a year for a long time. However, other women losing kind of just ruins their credibility in terms of being able to challenge the current 'big three'. They need to push some talent, but the mid-card is almost pointless in their division it feels. It's as if once you're there, you're stuck there unless you can form an interesting tag team.
There is some good talent that I think deserve a bigger shot and I'm surprised Vince hasn't pushed the likes of Liv Morgan or Mandy Rose yet, you'd have thought they'd be his kind of thing. I suppose Alexa Bliss will get back into the mix which is great, she's the best on the mic out of all the women and she has some ability as well thanks to her athletic background. Plus, she's good looking so Vince will allow it. I hope they give her more than they used to though, I know she's a great heel but I think she deserves to smash out a few clean wins against decent opponents as well. Not just cry wolf and sneak typical heel wins, she's better than that.
There wasnt an issue with Asuka streak ending as it had to at one time. But it was the follow up. She looked like a real dope vs Carmella for no reason. Then wins the title in a great TLC (ladder?) match. Then loses it randomly to Charlotte again after a weird feud with Mandy.
Sonya looked great until she got in the ring with Ronda and looked like a chump in comparison. She looked like a pretender.
I just dont get what they have done with Ruby and Nikki either. It seemed like callups for the sake of callups. (at least Ruby at something for a while)
Sonya looked great until she got in the ring with Ronda and looked like a chump in comparison. She looked like a pretender.
I just dont get what they have done with Ruby and Nikki either. It seemed like callups for the sake of callups. (at least Ruby at something for a while)
Viking Raiders.
Robert Roode.
Bray Wyatt’s firefly fun house.
What the feck.
Robert Roode.
Bray Wyatt’s firefly fun house.
What the feck.
Just awful right now. Going to have to start giving it a skip for a while and see if anything is happening later in the year.
Wyatt's new gimmick seems interesting, I give it three months before they completely feck it up.
I dunno AJ vs Seth could be a great match and then we have the Money In The Bank build it could be decent.
I’m actually liking the changes. The Bray thing is so fecking crazy it will probably work.
I still dislike Bray but at least it's something very different and he does look in great shape. I'm prepared to be convinced.
Alicia Fox must know where bodies are buried to still be employed with WWE. A relic from the Divas era.
Alicia Fox must know where bodies are buried to still be employed with WWE. A relic from the Divas era.
Weird Flex. Paige would still be wrestling had she not been injured, is she a relic? The Bella twins retired as opposed to being released. Hell Natalya has been there probably the same amount of time as Fox.
Bray's reminds me of Good Guy Tama Tonga tbh.
Except Nikki and Natalya improved hugely over the years (Nikki doesn't get the credit she deserves). Wouldn't even count Paige as Divas era even if she had the butterfly belt. They like to credit the 4HW with the women's evolution but a lot of it was Paige. Alicia Fox is the longest serving woman in WWE and still probably the worst they have. She's like Phil Jones.
And is that the right use of weird flex?
Doesn't matter how much they improved, theyre from that era. You wouldn't count Paige from that era even though she debuted and won the belt from that era? Infact she won it twice and is her only main roster titles?
She's better wrestler than Nia Jax, Tamina, Sarah Logan, Dana Brooke, hell even better than liv Morgan and that's just off Raw.
Think you're doing her an awful disservice in both ability and the fact she's from a certain era (which isn't problem for other females of that era!).
That match is great. No problem at all with it. I'm talking about the overall quality of the show. It just seems so lifeless and has very little that makes you want to tune in for next week. I grew up with JR screaming about somebody being a bastard or shouting about carnage unfolding as it went off air. Everything now is too sanitized.
I'd be interested in MITB if they actually looked like doing anything with it. After how they've had Corbin and Braun do absolutely nothing with it, it looks like a bit of an afterthought for them.
Jesus WWE. So basically Becky is losing her Smackdown belt to Charlotte at MITB. Would have been far better if they had put Askua as the challenger since she beat Becky at the Rumble. Would at least add some more interest.
Anyone else find ‘FireFlies” version of Bray way more creepier than Wyatt family Bray. Also total rip off of that woman on Netflix who bakes weird cakes and stuff.
Soooo The Iconics, I cant decide if they are brilliant that I equally hate their voices but there banter back in forth is kind of funny. They never seem to really ever get a reaction. It’s like crickets when they come out.
Edit: just to add, Kevin Owens... Yussssss
Anyone else find ‘FireFlies” version of Bray way more creepier than Wyatt family Bray. Also total rip off of that woman on Netflix who bakes weird cakes and stuff.
Soooo The Iconics, I cant decide if they are brilliant that I equally hate their voices but there banter back in forth is kind of funny. They never seem to really ever get a reaction. It’s like crickets when they come out.
Edit: just to add, Kevin Owens... Yussssss
the heal we deserve
Last edited:
Whoever wins money in the bank is probably cashing in on whoever wins that match and winning.
Wouldn't say crickets, wouldn't say it's less of a reaction than most. Crowd I was with when they won the titles were on their feet in truth, everyone loved it.
I am sick of Becky/Charlotte despite them being very good together but Becky was never going to keep both belts for long anyway. Have Charlotte win and Bayley win MITB and then have Bayley torment Charlotte by following her around every week.
Billie Kay is probably the funniest person in WWE. Their Youtube bits every week are gold. They're always making each other and the interviewers corpse...
Billie Kay is probably the funniest person in WWE. Their Youtube bits every week are gold. They're always making each other and the interviewers corpse...
That 2nd one is up there with my favourite interviews ever. I don't know why but I just find it hilarious
I love the third one.
I'm totally over Kofi as champ.
Two of the other world champions, Seth and Becky, at least carry themselves like champions and look the part. Kofi on the other hand is coming out on Smackdown dancing around in a pair of unicorn pants and carrying a platter of fecking pancakes. Plus he has been giving the same promo every week since Mania "It's a dream, man. I can't believe it, man."
Someone on here said Kofi Kingston being WWE champ would be ridiculous and at the time I strongly disagreed but with hindsight, I was wrong. The moment at Mania was nice but career midcarders are there for a reason and that's where Kofi belongs. Owens, Reigns, anybody with some presence needs to get that belt off him ASAP.
Jinder's reign > Kofi's.
Two of the other world champions, Seth and Becky, at least carry themselves like champions and look the part. Kofi on the other hand is coming out on Smackdown dancing around in a pair of unicorn pants and carrying a platter of fecking pancakes. Plus he has been giving the same promo every week since Mania "It's a dream, man. I can't believe it, man."
Someone on here said Kofi Kingston being WWE champ would be ridiculous and at the time I strongly disagreed but with hindsight, I was wrong. The moment at Mania was nice but career midcarders are there for a reason and that's where Kofi belongs. Owens, Reigns, anybody with some presence needs to get that belt off him ASAP.
Jinder's reign > Kofi's.
Bryan is cleared now.
Which is sad as I wanted KO to be a face longer than he was. Bryan needs to regain it. Kofi had his moment.
Just seen Kotaku slamming Rondas voice acting in MK and pointing out some of the controversial views she had.
Hoping KO gets the job done and sticks as a bad ass and they don’t just make him become some sort of Bond villain running from fights and stuff. However let’s face it. Won’t be long till the Smackdown title is in Romans hands. Probably after a quick pit stop through Lars.
The woman’s MITB match line up looks terrible although Ember moon might be good but that Male MITB match has showstopper written all over it. Andrade, Balor, Ricochet, Mustafi
then you got the bigs dudes to take some of the hits from what I imagine is going to be one hell of a spectacle. Looking forward to that one.They've wasted Roode so far. At least with the slight name change he's getting the push he deserves.
He can be one of the best heels around and RAW certainly needs another one.
He can be one of the best heels around and RAW certainly needs another one.
I agree that he should be presented more seriously, but Jinder had turn off TV heat for his reign. Kofi's is better than that, people still like him and this week they at least showed a more aggressive side of him. At this point I would certainly make his reign a 1 time thing though. He's got a big leap and with the right person (Bryan) can have a very good match but I don't see anything special in him personally. Well aside from being a black WWE champion, which is something a lot of people have been asking for (because they dont consider the Rock "fully black" and Booker T had the World Heavyweight Championship, which was unified with the WWE title). And I do get that that part of the audience want to see someone like themselves be champion... But I think at least some of them would want someone who truly deserves it as an outstanding talent, not for tenure or because of the colour of their skin.
For me Kofi right now doesn't have that. He's athletic and pretty good in the ring but not one of the best in the world and the new day's gimmick is doing stupid stuff. And he hasnt branched out from that.
WWE, or Raw at least, feels like it's at its lowest point. I struggle to remember a more boring period post-Mania.
When does AEW officially kick off? Or has it done so already?
They don't have a TV deal yet although it's rumoured to be starting in October.
They have another PPV on May 25th.
That's when il start watching wrestling then! Wwe has been long shit. I don't give a toss about it anymore..
Glorified t-shirt company as of right now.