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Sylar said:
Wouldnt personally call Alexa mediocre.
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In the ring she is very mediocre. People massively overrate her because of how she looks. Just look at her recent feuds for example:

- Bayley. HORRIBLE feud in which Bliss brought out Bayleys worst feud since being on the main roster, and that is saying something. This feud also included the infamous 'This is your life' segment.
- Nia. Awful feud and average matches. Not helped by WWE's yo-yo booking with Nia being a face or heel with the whole fat shaming thing. But still...
- Sasha. Average set of matches in which the title was flipped back and forth in 2 nights.

She doesn't deserve the push she has recieved at all. The likes of Sasha, Asuka, Bayley and even Becky are better wrestlers but get worse treatment.
 
Whilst I dont disagree regarding the This Is your Life segment, or even the feud, I dont see how you can put that on either woman. It wasnt killer content that Alexa failed to get over, it was set up to be terrible and was always gonna be terrible. Like the Old Day stuff. Or whatever shit WWE does that they think is funny, but always bomb at.

I agree there are people with better inring style than her, but again, thats all based on opinion. But her being called mediocre is crazy given the reactions she gets to when she comes out, during her matches and when she does promos. Also her facial reactions are great.

WWE is never about deserving cos WWE office (vince) has favourites.
 
JoaquinJoaquin said:
She doesn't deserve the push she has recieved at all. The likes of Sasha, Asuka, Bayley and even Becky are better wrestlers but get worse treatment.
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I’ve heard rumours that people think Bayley is decent but honestly never scene it since her call up. She is awful. The others are certainly better wrestlers but unfortunately there is more to it than just that and I agree with a lot of what Sylar said. Bliss is the best actor, performer. She sells things like the others can’t. Her recent promos on Nattie and Nia were impressive. This week her reaction to finding out it’s extreme rules match vs Nia was priceless and something that no other performer seems to get. She also knows how to work the crowd which others don’t.
You’ve got to judge these performers on both and the fact is she may not be as good a wrestler as some but she’s light years ahead of most at the other side of being a wrestler.
Sylar said:
Whilst I dont disagree regarding the This Is your Life segment, or even the feud, I dont see how you can put that on either woman. It wasnt killer content that Alexa failed to get over, it was set up to be terrible and was always gonna be terrible. Like the Old Day stuff. Or whatever shit WWE does that they think is funny, but always bomb at.

I agree there are people with better inring style than her, but again, thats all based on opinion. But her being called mediocre is crazy given the reactions she gets to when she comes out, during her matches and when she does promos. Also her facial reactions are great.

WWE is never about deserving cos WWE office (vince) has favourites.
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As I said above pretty much agree with all of this. Did you notice the weird change in Raw the last few weeks. The intro this week about roman and Lashley was super weird, even that KO and Braun one was super weird. It felt like story time with uncle Vince.
 
It's not just that Alexa gets the gold because of how she looks, she probably cuts the best promos in the biz. If you can talk and at least hold your own in the ring, you'll go far.
 
What the hell did Seth just say about Scotland.... Smash him McIntyre. Not only is what Seth saying offensive but it’s also the wrong stereotype. Man seems confused between Scotland and Wales.
 
Alexa isn't even mediocre in the ring, that's a compliment. She's just bad. Probably a reason why they only trust her with finishers like a ddt and a punch. But the promos and character are why she has the belt which, as said, is a big part of being a wrestler too.

The looks help also. She's definitely Vince's type.
 
So anyone's thoughts on the All In event. It will be Cody vs Nick Aldis for the NWA belt in the main event. Recently watched a lot of the NWA champs matches to see if he's improved at all and it has to be said it's been sometime since I've seen such bad wrestling. Botches and no rhythm to Nicks matches.
 
After watching Omega vs Cody I can't see how Nick can even be considered for the main event. They are levels apart in terms of performance and ability.
 
Hate that I’m going to use this word but the tag team division on SD is Lit... (did I use it correctly?) which reminds me, where are Seamus and what’s his face? Haven’t seen them in a while.
 
Andersons Dietician said:
Hate that I’m going to use this word but the tag team division on SD is Lit... (did I use it correctly?) which reminds me, where are Seamus and what’s his face? Haven’t seen them in a while.
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The creative team don’t have any plans for them ATM, hate that Sanity have been called up only to have already lost twice
 
paulscholes18 said:
The creative team don’t have any plans for them ATM, hate that Sanity have been called up only to have already lost twice
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Yeah I suppose they were sort of ruined when the lost to Braun. Hard to come back from that.

I’m not really an avid watched of NXT and only just recently got the Network so I had heard of Sanity but not seen them. Did see Killian in that 6 man ladder match and was impressed. Do seem, like they are sort of destined to fall by the way side on SD, but I think they’d be better as tag champs currently as the bludgeon brothers are a bit meh. They just don’t come across to me as champs or really that threatening.
 
Gambit said:
So anyone's thoughts on the All In event. It will be Cody vs Nick Aldis for the NWA belt in the main event. Recently watched a lot of the NWA champs matches to see if he's improved at all and it has to be said it's been sometime since I've seen such bad wrestling. Botches and no rhythm to Nicks matches.
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Never seen a Nick Aldis/Magnus match but since hes been NWA champ ive noticed they've become way more high profile. I just assumed he was doing good work and the odd promo i did catch was pretty decent with him coming across like a star.

Also i havent been following All In that closely but didnt Cody need to win the ROH title to face Aldis or something like that?
 
Shane88 said:
Alexa isn't even mediocre in the ring, that's a compliment. She's just bad. Probably a reason why they only trust her with finishers like a ddt and a punch. But the promos and character are why she has the belt which, as said, is a big part of being a wrestler too.

The looks help also. She's definitely Vince's type.
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Anyone rate Chelsea Green (formerly Laurel van Ness in TNA)?
She seems up to the task in the ring and on the mike to my untrained eyes.
Is her relationship with Zak Ryder a help or a hinderance?
 
Mystry said:
Never seen a Nick Aldis/Magnus match but since hes been NWA champ ive noticed they've become way more high profile. I just assumed he was doing good work and the odd promo i did catch was pretty decent with him coming across like a star.

Also i havent been following All In that closely but didnt Cody need to win the ROH title to face Aldis or something like that?
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Didn't have to win, just had to put the belt on the line if he did. You can catch his matches on youtube NWA ten lbs of gold.
 
Anyone else looking forward to WOS wrestling on ITV?
 
I didn't watch the original Team Hell No but I'm not liking them at all so far, Kane quoting N'Sync songs when he's supposed to be some fearsome monster. Is that the gimmick they went last time or have they changed this time?
 
a_devil_inside said:
I didn't watch the original Team Hell No but I'm not liking them at all so far, Kane quoting N'Sync songs when he's supposed to be some fearsome monster. Is that the gimmick they went last time or have they changed this time?
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They have always been the comedic duo.

You should see their previous work with Dr Shelby. The fact that Kane was supposed to be a monster made it work. Kane monstrosity was killed by Katie Vick and the unmasking. He's never going to be that guy anymore.
 
a_devil_inside said:
I didn't watch the original Team Hell No but I'm not liking them at all so far, Kane quoting N'Sync songs when he's supposed to be some fearsome monster. Is that the gimmick they went last time or have they changed this time?
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They appeared as "B-Dazzle and Kurly Kane" on one of WWE's Youtube shows. So they've never really been serious.
 
Extreme rules (where only 3/11 aren’t normal matches)

Bliss V Nia Jax
Deleters or worlds vs B-Team
Carmella V Asuka (Ellsworth in a shark cage)
The Bludgeon Brothers vs Team Hell No
Jeff Hardy V Nakamura
Reigns V Bobby Lashley
Finn Balor V Baron Corbin
Dolph Ziggler V Seth Rollins
Braun Strowman V Kevin Owens
The New Day V Sanity (I will be pissed off if Sanity lose this)
AJ Styles V Rusev
 
I wonder what’s going to happen with Brock now. He’ll supposedly be clear to fight in March so I’d imagine he’d stop wanting to wrestle around November. Unless it’s even sooner and he drops the belt soon.
Although Braun cashing in at a live UFC event would be pretty awesome :lol:
 
I cant take Raw seriously when it doesnt even have a champion that shows up. Seriously, it seems so second rate until Brock appears with the belt.
I guess the ratings reflect that, so good. I really wish they had just dropped the title to Reigns at WM.

Reigns beating Lashley would be so funny.

Also if Asuka and Nakamura lose, what can they seriously do next? Asuka especially. At least with Nakamura hes a heel.
 
Leroy The Red said:
So basically it only takes two years for a racist rant to be forgotten about and for you to be a hero again.
This man is a piece of shit...
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Ultimate Warrior was a total piece of shit and they've still got an award named after him. Hell, even Snuka is still in the HOF and he killed someone!

WWE give no shits about a persons character, Hogan got a few years "ban" because he was so high profile and they had to do something.

There's countless reports of legends like Flair and Dusty Rhodes using the same language as Hogan and nobody gives much of a shit because they are not on video.
 
duffer said:
Ultimate Warrior was a total piece of shit and they've still got an award named after him. Hell, even Snuka is still in the HOF and he killed someone!

WWE give no shits about a persons character, Hogan got a few years "ban" because he was so high profile.
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Oh no what did he do? Loved him as a kid
 
duffer said:
Ultimate Warrior was a total piece of shit and they've still got an award named after him. Hell, even Snuka is still in the HOF and he killed someone!

WWE give no shits about a persons character, Hogan got a few years "ban" because he was so high profile.
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The Snuka thing is disgusting.

Worst thing is that he actually got away with it too.
 
duffer said:
Ultimate Warrior was a total piece of shit and they've still got an award named after him. Hell, even Snuka is still in the HOF and he killed someone!

WWE give no shits about a persons character, Hogan got a few years "ban" because he was so high profile.
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Mae Young is another example.

They did if their sponsor cared about it as we saw with Fabulous Moulah. Only money thats matter for WWE.
 
I’ve no idea about his current injury status, but is there any chance Ambrose returns tonight? Would be good to see him come back to ‘even the odds’ and he’ll Seth, only to turn on him and cost him the title. Gets Seth away from the title, turns dean and sets up a massive match for Summerslam.
 
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