I agree. Can you imagine Ronaldo and Thiago in the same team
Thiago Alcantara | Signed for Bayern Munich
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Have you not been paying attention? IF we trigger the release clause AND Thiago wants to come here, Barcelona have no choice in the matter.
I agree. Can you imagine Ronaldo and Thiago in the same team
Van Persie
Ronaldo Kagawa Rooney
Thiago Carrick
Evra Vidic Rio Rafael
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Make it happen.
Ruud: what you said is silly on so many levels.
Firstly, we're not a feeder club who borrows young talents, we're not going to waste a year developing a potential superstar to make him better for a European rival.
Secondly, he has a release clause of £15m or thereabouts.
Thirdly, you used to be better than this in the newbies, why have you got the reputation that you do now?
Firstly, we're not a feeder club who borrows young talents, we're not going to waste a year developing a potential superstar to make him better for a European rival.
Secondly, he has a release clause of £15m or thereabouts.
Thirdly, you used to be better than this in the newbies, why have you got the reputation that you do now?
Amazing how people still haven't grasped the fact that Barca have no choice in the matter apart from promising him more first team football. The decision is entirely with Thiago if someone pays the 18 million required.
Ruud, I really don't know what the hell you are on mate... 
Ruud, I really don't know what the hell you are on mate...
Perhaps we should loan in Ruud into our purchasing department... that's what we are lacking... our very own 'ideas commitee'
That video of Thiago smiling and walking away reminds me of the one with Sneijder being all coy about United back in 2011. Coy bastards.
I'm not sure that's the greatest idea. He'll turn us into a feeder club.
Sneijder was quite close to signing for us though, he even thanked all the United fans on his twitter at the end of the summer
Reminds me of Lucas last summer...
Kermit's just tired from severe loss of bodily fluids because he knows it's on.
Precisely. Sneijder deal was close. Lucas deal was close but PSG came in at the last minute. Thiago deal could be close but Bayern could do a PSG
Close as we all know means nothing, I bring up the case of a certain M Essien....
Can't see Bayern signing him. His issue is a lack of playing time and perhaps the only other club in the world where he would face similar competition to Barca is Bayern.Precisely. Sneijder deal was close. Lucas deal was close but PSG came in at the last minute. Thiago deal could be close but Bayern could do a PSG
I think if the lad had his say before he anything came out, he would have wanted to stay at Barca... playing time shouldn't scare him off if he has the potential he is supposed to, the only reason Barca deem him surplus is because of their over production of immensely talented midfielders in the last 10 years or so
How could it mean nothing? It may seem that way because we didn't agree a deal in the end but in terms of stating intent, I think it certainly means something. People reference Lucas & Hazard as examples of Sir Alex trying to improve our flanks. Based on how our wingers performed this season, perhaps he saw a potential issue and the need for improvement before the season even started. If we were never in for these lads, then we'd have to settle with the fact Sir Alex wasn't looking at improving the quality of our wingers. Therefore, I do think it means something.
I agree. Can you imagine Ronaldo and Thiago in the same team
No. I genuinely can't imagine Ronaldo joining Barcelona.
I don't see the point in tryingito compare it to previous sagas. It's quite obvious we are interested and we have a good chance of signing him, based on what we know at this moment in time. When is the next u21 game?
You are quite the philosophical poster, I just wish sometimes you would read what is in front of you rather than trying to take a clever explanative view.
Means, that you may have one foot in the door, but unless your sitting down inside the house, you ain't in. Does it mean nothing? No obviously not, it does mean something, but my point was is that you can get to the closest possible point and it can still amount to nothing, for me I don't see this happening, but part of this is due to the fact I would like it
I cannot see this deal not happening. It's all falling into place
The interpretation of your statement was a bit vague which is why I took liberty in responding in the way I did. I figured what I am quoting now is what you meant but I didn't know for sure.You are quite the philosophical poster, I just wish sometimes you would read what is in front of you rather than trying to take a clever explanative view.
Means, that you may have one foot in the door, but unless your sitting down inside the house, you ain't in. Does it mean nothing? No obviously not, it does mean something, but my point was is that you can get to the closest possible point and it can still amount to nothing, for me I don't see this happening, but part of this is due to the fact I would like it
So in terms of reading what's right in front of me, that's what I did. It's the problem with the internet postings. It is plain text. Therefore I and everyone else has to somehow construe all the implicit assumptions one makes which is easier to decipher in person rather than on the internet. I know it annoys people when I do this but I like to make sure I have a good idea of what I'm reading. Another reason why misunderstanding one's post is a common occurrence on here.
I can see what you're trying to say and I hope you see I was disagreeing with the implication of your statement. Not the overall sentiment because in some sense you're right. It does amount to nothing. Like saying "we almost won the title".
Would be an incredible signing. It seems to good to be true though, I don't want to face the heartbreak!
Yes but there's a realistic chance of Thiago joining Madrid.
All I can say is first and foremost, I hope I am wrong
And FWIW, you don't annoy me, I quite like a lot of your posts, I just think sometimes in general, you maybe overanalyse a bit much, but hey it makes good reading on other bits when you chip in so..
Cheers Jay. I perhaps do overanalyse. Nuance is my middle name.
why the hell would you want to loan Thiago when it's clear that's the last thing on anybody's mind.
Most importantly though, it wouldn't suit us one bit. Pointless making another team's player better at the expense of giving our own the experience, we're not a small club, we loan out players, we very rarely take them in (although Larsson was a pleasant loan signing, that's about the only one I can mention in that regard). Especialy since it's clear there's turmoil there and he'll either stay if he's given assurances of playing enough minutes (doubtful given Barca's midfield situation) or move on given the fact that he's highly sought after and his release clause is very low for a player of his calibre, he's not a 17 year old, he's 22, and again given his talent obviously should be playing more, something he'd be pretty much guaranteed here, doubt he or United in this case would like a loan deal...if he comes here he comes here for good, if not then feck it
seriously though that just doesn't make any sense
Van PersieRonaldo Kagawa RooneyThiago CarrickEvra Vidic Rio RafaelDDGMake it happen.
Someone nerf that team
IMO:Someone nerf that team
Van Persie
Ronaldo_________________Zaha
Thiago__Kagawa
Carrick
Evra_____Vidic____Jones____Rafael
DDG
Nobody picked up any quotes today from Sandro Rossell regarding Thiago?
He said something about Thiagos clause already having been 18 mill but will become 90 mill, not the other way around, as has been reported.
Why will it become 90M?
He said people view the clause the wrong way round, because in Rosell's view, basically: it was set at 18 million, and will be 90 million when he plays a lot of games.
Not that it was 90m but got reduced to 18m because he wasn't playing. Potato, potato.
He also said that he'd buy Thiago for 18m and that he hopes he's patient enough to follow the path set by Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets.
In other news, today's frontrunners according to Sport and Mundo Deportivo are listed as: Barcelona, Bayern Munich and United.
Not that it was 90m but got reduced to 18m because he wasn't playing. Potato, potato.
He also said that he'd buy Thiago for 18m and that he hopes he's patient enough to follow the path set by Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets.
In other news, today's frontrunners according to Sport and Mundo Deportivo are listed as: Barcelona, Bayern Munich and United.
Think he's been smoking too much of the green stuff.
So he will either join bayern or stay at barca,i hope not.
In terms of how you've depicted the midfield I think bosnian_red's would be much closer. Thiago plays far too deep and Kagawa far too advanced to be thought of as likely to play next to one another. If you wanted to be really picky about visually representing average positions on the pitch, you could put Carrick behind Thiago and Thiago behind Kagawa, but basically I think Thiago and Carrick would be next to each other in a typical 4231.
Wankworthy line-up, anyway, your way or his. I'd be confident of us giving a good game to any team in the world with that. Even without Ronaldo, tbh, I think the addition of such a superb CM in the only genuinely weak area of our side would put us firmly back up there in the top three.
What's your logic behind that thinking? Are we that unattractive a proposition?
The objection to a loan deal is reasonable. After all, why would we polish a gem Barcelona gets to keep?
But if 1) we can't bring in an outrageous attacking central midfielder such as Fabregas or Modric for whatever reason and 2) if we believe Cleverley, Ando and whoever else we have on the squad now just isn't good enough to get us to a CL semifinal and 3) if we believe there's a chance that Barcelona still won't have room for Alcantara because they're so ridicuously stocked with talent and perhaps young Thiago might decide to keep the red shirt with the black button down collar on.
It's a Plan C, nothing else. Other clubs, big clubs, get the benefit of loan deals, so why not United? But you do have to wonder how Barcelona could possibly keep both Fabregas and Alcantara happy next season. It's mid-June and there's still plenty of time for vats of ink to be spilled sharing rumors.
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