Thiago Alcantara | New contract

red thru&thru

Full Member
Joined
Mar 2, 2004
Messages
7,657
With the imminent signing of sanchez, barca may not need him or are happier to let him go.

i think he is exactly the type of player we need. he fits the bill more than sanchez would. having watched the handful of games in la liga and under-21's he looks fantastic.

would barca want to let him go or would he want to come? let's see hey.
 
I think he'd find it very physically difficult here, plus I don't see him in a two man midfield, so no real use to us unless we plan to adapt a fluid 4-3-3 sometime soon.
 
If he did leave and turned out to be as good as everyone expects him to be, in a few years time they would announce they wanted him back and he would want to go. Yes, whichever club he went to in the meantime may get some good service out of him, but I can't help but think he would be there on borrowed time and always waiting to get called back.
 
humdinger said:
If he did leave and turned out to be as good as everyone expects him to be, in a few years time they would announce they wanted him back and he would want to go. Yes, whichever club he went to in the meantime may get some good service out of him, but I can't help but think he would be there on borrowed time and always waiting to get called back.
Click to expand...

I totally agree with you.
 
He has an incredible touch and he walks on water


Thiago>
walking_on_water_jesus.jpg
 
humdinger said:
If he did leave and turned out to be as good as everyone expects him to be, in a few years time they would announce they wanted him back and he would want to go. Yes, whichever club he went to in the meantime may get some good service out of him, but I can't help but think he would be there on borrowed time and always waiting to get called back.
Click to expand...

that is a very good comment. however the type of player we need now to take us to the next level is these type of players who probably grew up wanting to play for barca/real.

if we were successful and barca were on a downward spiral he may find it difficult to leave. i would rather us to have this problem than stay at the level we are at the moment.
 
humdinger said:
If he did leave and turned out to be as good as everyone expects him to be, in a few years time they would announce they wanted him back and he would want to go. Yes, whichever club he went to in the meantime may get some good service out of him, but I can't help but think he would be there on borrowed time and always waiting to get called back.
Click to expand...

Was going to say the same thing..
 
n today's market, there are very few young players who have the magnetism that radiates Thiago Alcántara . The best proof of this is that the Barca midfielder has become, having played only 17 games for Barca , one of the players in the team with the most bids. That is because Thiago (20 years) is a player that all the experts agree catalog of 'different'. A quintessential medium technique, a spectacular game viewing and a touch of Brazilian dazzles most fans. In addition, major European clubs know that the squad is bound to be, if Barca finally tab Cesc Fabregas , one of the players with less prominence in the next season.

Taking advantage of this culture medium, some of the 'big' in Europe are tempting Thiago to get their game differently, technical, offensive and vertical. Big European clubs have already fallen by more than one occasion before the Barca and that one way or another, attempting to clone the team's playing Guardiola to try to snatch the Catalans now hold supremacy.

Specifically, as MD has learned, in addition to Atletico , the Roma , the Tottenham and Malaga have also thrown their nets on Thiago the Chelsea , the Manchester United and Arsenal .

The Chelsea is precisely the Barca midfielder's first choice if you finally have to leave because there 'overbooking' on average with the arrival of Cesc . The club 'blue' has always a lot of money to buy and to ensure good chips, has a staff with great quality and just started an exciting project with Villas-Boas on the bench.

In the United , Sir Alex Ferguson for fantasy and play to his midfield, something orphan accuracy and magic, and more after the withdrawal of Paul Scholes . Martin Ferguson , brother of Sir Alex and manager of 'scouting' in English club has spent most spectacular reports of the brothers Alcántara . A Martin Ferguson that this season, even went through the Ciutat Esportiva of FC Barcelona to see a training Barca and meet with Pep Guardiola .

The Arsenal is the umpire and the club, perhaps, more may need to Thiago . And, if Cesc part bound to the Camp Nou, Spain and Brazil will go to Arsène Wenger pearl tone to keep attacking and 'toilet' in his stocking.

All in all, the FC Barcelona rely a lot on Thiago , but they know that if he Fàbregas it will be difficult to play the minutes he needs to grow. Thus, a sale and repurchase is not frowned
Click to expand...

According to Deportivo Mundo, we're interested in him and also scouted him extensively last season.
 
KM said:
According to Deportivo Mundo, we're interested in him and also scouted him extensively last season.
Click to expand...

Would be a fantastic signing if we could pull it off. He has the imagination and skills that we need, has a great engine to.

He is one player im hoping we sign, if we do i'll be happy with our lot for the season...well maybe adding sneijder wouldn't harm us!:devil:
 
Would be a good signing, raid Spain for Martinez as well. Been impressed with both in the U21's and Martinez always seems to stand out for Bilbao.
 
Way too talented for our midfield.
 
KM said:
According to Deportivo Mundo, we're interested in him and also scouted him extensively last season.
Click to expand...
According to them the daft bastards want 20M euros for him to fund paying 30M for Fabregas.
 
Top bargain. However, will they not put in a buy-back-clause in a potential deal for him?
 
Isn't El Mundo Deportivo to Barca what Marca is to Madrid? Probably just a card they're playing in the Fabregas negotiations.
 
Mad said:
Isn't El Mundo Deportivo to Barca what Marca is to Madrid? Probably just a card they're playing in the Fabregas negotiations.
Click to expand...

If it was a card they were playing surely they'd offer money + Thiago to Arsenal?

I don't follow your reasoning.
 
Would be a great buy, but i am not convinced he is ready to go straight into our first team.

Which would defeat the object of signing him really, we need someone who is already established and will improve our team now, not next season or the season after.

We already have promising young cm's who will be trying to break through over the next 2 seasons, i see little point in signing another.

In my view it would make more sense trying to sign Fabregas. £35m is not a great deal for someone of his quality and if we could sign him up on a 3 year deal, by the time his contract is up, Barca will be ready to builld their team around him and our youngsters such as Pogba, Morrison etc will then be ready to take up the mantle.
 
Isn't it a case of creaming over everyone elses kids and ignoring the talent we have coming through our ranks? He looks good from what I saw of him but so do our kids. If Barcelona had any sense they would have learnt from losing Fabregas and others. Clearly this kid is raw but with kids you have to embrace what you have and not be scared of it. If Sir Alex came out and said Pogba or Morrison or Tunnicliffe and maybe one or two others would feature, I'd love it. Not because I know more but because I don't think the grass is always greener. If we bought this kid, you only reduce the chances of one of those making it and that would be a shame. The people who pay attention to their own club would surely know that.
 
While I don't know if we'll sign this lad, I have a feeling that whatever midfield player we bring WILL be of that type. Young, not completely proven. Not cost a king's ransom.

And I'll be quite happy with that.
 
AdZzUtd said:
If it was a card they were playing surely they'd offer money + Thiago to Arsenal?

I don't follow your reasoning.
Click to expand...

Well, the situation I was thinking of was one where Arsenal wanted a cash only deal with a figure that Barcelona couldn't afford to pay. So they offer them Thiago + Cash and start linking him with United, City, Malaga, Tottenham et al.

Just one possible scenario.
 
KM said:
According to Deportivo Mundo, we're interested in him and also scouted him extensively last season.
Click to expand...

Happily state on record that I'd be happier to get Thiago than I would getting Modric or Sneijder.
 
Mad said:
Well, the situation I was thinking of was one where Arsenal wanted a cash only deal with a figure that Barcelona couldn't afford to pay. So they offer them Thiago + Cash and start linking him with United, City, Malaga, Tottenham et al.

Just one possible scenario.
Click to expand...

Yep, now I follow. That certainly seems likely.
 
Striker10 said:
Isn't it a case of creaming over everyone elses kids and ignoring the talent we have coming through our ranks? He looks good from what I saw of him but so do our kids. If Barcelona had any sense they would have learnt from losing Fabregas and others. Clearly this kid is raw but with kids you have to embrace what you have and not be scared of it. If Sir Alex came out and said Pogba or Morrison or Tunnicliffe and maybe one or two others would feature, I'd love it. Not because I know more but because I don't think the grass is always greener. If we bought this kid, you only reduce the chances of one of those making it and that would be a shame. The people who pay attention to their own club would surely know that.
Click to expand...

Thiago is 20 and ready to play regularly. Our kids are still playing academy football. We need a midfielder to replace those leaving and we can't be waiting for those in our academy for a couple of seasons. If they are good enough, they'll get opportunities.
 
RonaldoVII said:
Thiago is 20 and ready to play regularly. Our kids are still playing academy football. We need a midfielder to replace those leaving and we can't be waiting for those in our academy for a couple of seasons. If they are good enough, they'll get opportunities.
Click to expand...

20s no age. You can send an 18 on loan just as you would a 20 year old. The experience is still the same. How do we know one or two aren't ready now? That's the managers decision but I don't think there is a magic number for everyone. Everyone is clearly different in that respect. Not everyone needs to go on loan, we've seen that so that's why the pre season games will be a real eye opener I think

Thiago is good but would be pricey but we have Petrucci, Morrison and maybe one or two others of a similar (not directly) type of player
 
The other midfielder of Spain impressed me even more and would be perfect for us and to play in England.

Thiago is talented but lacks finishing skills yet, thats his main weakness imo
 
Striker10 said:
20s no age. You can send an 18 on loan just as you would a 20 year old. The experience is still the same.
Click to expand...

Thiago doesn't need to go out on loan, he's good enough already. He's played more first team games than Tom Cleverley and at a higher level. The likes of Pogba, Tunniclife and Morrison haven't experienced any first team football at all, baring 10 seconds of league cup "action".
 
RonaldoVII said:
Thiago is 20 and ready to play regularly. Our kids are still playing academy football. We need a midfielder to replace those leaving and we can't be waiting for those in our academy for a couple of seasons. If they are good enough, they'll get opportunities.
Click to expand...

No he isn't, that is just conjecture on your part. If he was ready to play regularly he would be doing so for Barca. That doesn't mean he has to play every game, only that he would be getting at least some game time when Pep rested Iniesta or Xavi.

The fact Barca play Xavi and Iniesta so often can only be attributed to the fact Thiago is not yet ready and is still deemed too much of a risk.

Barca's one weakness is an over dependence on those 2, hence the continual coveting of Fabregas.
 
apotheosis said:
No he isn't, that is just conjecture on your part. If he was ready to play regularly he would be doing so for Barca. That doesn't mean he has to play every game, only that he would be getting at least some game time when Pep rested Iniesta or Xavi.

The fact Barca play Xavi and Iniesta so often can only be attributed to the fact Thiago is not yet ready and is still deemed too much of a risk.

Barca's one weakness is an over dependence on those 2, hence the continual coveting of Fabregas.
Click to expand...

There's a difference between playing regularly for Barcelona and doing so for someone else. Darron Gibson is ready to play regularly, just not for us and the same example applies. I'm not saying he should be playing 50 games a season but my point was comparing buying him to promoting someone with no first team games is foolish.
 
apotheosis said:
No he isn't, that is just conjecture on your part. If he was ready to play regularly he would be doing so for Barca. That doesn't mean he has to play every game, only that he would be getting at least some game time when Pep rested Iniesta or Xavi.

The fact Barca play Xavi and Iniesta so often can only be attributed to the fact Thiago is not yet ready and is still deemed too much of a risk.

Barca's one weakness is an over dependence on those 2, hence the continual coveting of Fabregas.
Click to expand...

He did make 6 starts (of the available 15, including CL semis and final) in the last two months, he's definitely close to being ready.
 
Brwned said:
He did make 6 starts (of the available 15, including CL semis and final) in the last two months, he's definitely close to being ready.
Click to expand...

Fair enough.

RonaldoVII said:
There's a difference between playing regularly for Barcelona and doing so for someone else. Darron Gibson is ready to play regularly, just not for us and the same example applies. I'm not saying he should be playing 50 games a season but my point was comparing buying him to promoting someone with no first team games is foolish.
Click to expand...

I take your point, but playing regularly for Utd in a more physical league, is not really that much different to playing regularly for Barca.

If Gibson isn't ready to play regularly for us despite having much more experience, what makes you believe Thiago would be any more ready?
 
We've got a lot of money to spend. We've hardly spent any since Ronaldo was sold. Berbatov was the last player that cost a bundle and IMO he turned out well.

Who cares what we will spend on players? With Chelsea spending 50m on Torres, 20m+ for Luiz, City spending ludicrous money on transfer and wages. Who can blame Liverpool for paying what they pay. Lot for Henderson and Carroll, fair amount for Suarez. If we we're to buy this guy I wouldn't care if it were 10, 15 or 20m in all honesty. Not one bit. Arsenal has to buy as well this season so what are people afraid or sceptical off? It's not like their spending your money or wasting it carelessly.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.