The (completely inevitable) death of Frank Sobotka made me as sad as I've ever been watching a TV/movie. My favourite character. I think that if I come across the guy who played Ziggy in real life, I wouldn't be able to resist the urge to hit him. I know he pays for his nonsense with a life in jail and seems to reform by the end but in all 5 seasons there isn't a single character more infuriating.
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Just briefly trying to think about this and there are so many truly great characters in this show.
Off the top of my head I can't think of one more infuriating than Ziggy, but he's still a brilliant character.
I think Bubbles is my favourite, although Frank Sobotka is definitely up there.
Bubbles and Omar are two of the best written TV characters ever. And on top of that, you have Stringer, Bodie, Sobotka, Bunk, Lestor etc.
It's amazing that in such an absurdly large ensemble the only really "weak" character I can think of is Brother Mouzone.
It's amazing that in such an absurdly large ensemble the only really "weak" character I can think of is Brother Mouzone.
It's funny; in between mainstays like Bubbles, Omar, Bodie, the dock guys (I love Ziggy as a character), as well as great newer characters like Michael, Carcetti, and Colvin, it's easy to forget how much I love D'Angelo. What a great character, written and acted superbly, and I was so sad to see him die, especially the way it happened. For one, I don't believe he ever would have snitched on the Barksdale crew, and Stringer was paranoid for nothing. Also, he seemed to finally be at peace with himself right.
I still hum "When you walk through the garden.."
I really enjoyed the series. I watched the whole thing after breaking bad ended. About 2-3 episodes in, I really didn't like the pace of the story.. But someone in here or reddit assured me that its going to get a lot better. And Oh boy, it did!!
Made me shed tears quite a lot too.. That scene where Ellis Carver has to leave Randy at the group home was really emotional.
I really enjoyed the series. I watched the whole thing after breaking bad ended. About 2-3 episodes in, I really didn't like the pace of the story.. But someone in here or reddit assured me that its going to get a lot better. And Oh boy, it did!!
Made me shed tears quite a lot too.. That scene where Ellis Carver has to leave Randy at the group home was really emotional.
I love their lunch at the park. Bodie always had great scenes with cops, especially his scenes with Carver in Season 4 right.
That's almost always the case with first time watchers of The Wire, I'm glad I stuck with it too, and now I'm about to watch the whole series though a third time. And my goodness, yeah that scene was crazy emotional. Randy was my favourite kid of the 4 at the beginning of Season 4 right.
It's got so much competition, but that's probably the scene that hit me hardest. I feel wrecked just thinking about it/ Randy.
I don't thin it was paranoid at all:
-Stringer didn't have the same insight as us viewers
-D was seriously angry and
-iirc they barely managed to keep him from making a deal when he was first arrested
-the rat poison thing reinforced his feelings about Wallace
-he turned away from Avon in prison
-a decade in prison can probably change anything
I enjoyed watching his storyline, but I don't think it was that special: Gangster who grows a concience is rather typical imo.
Yeah e01 and e02 didn't grip me at all, but as I had heard how good the show is I kept watching anyway and once you're used to the pace you soon realize how incredible the level of detail/depth is and how interesting literally all of the characters are - that's what amazes me the most about the show, that even the small roles have more depth than the protagonists of a lot of other shows.
I think Bodie realizes that very early into the show, maybe even as soon as that scene where D tries to teach them how to play chess.
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eeee! might want to spoiler that shit, there's been posts by some newbs to the show, y'know.
Doesn't take anything away from the scenes. Bodie was already starting to realise the game didn't have a happy ending, though.
Yeah 'paranoid' is a bit strong. Maybe a better way to put it was that Stringer didn't understand the kid like Avon did. Because even Avon realized eventually that while D would never be part of his drug empire, he could be trusted to keep his mouth shut. I think if his discussion with Brianna (the one where they talk about her letting him get his ass kicked to learn how to be strong) had taken place a couple days earlier, and if Avon had been more clear in his last conversation with Stringer before D's death, then Stringer would have chosen to let him be.
As for the storyline not being special, it was more than just a gangster growing a conscience; saying that would be like summing up Michael's storyline as "kid gets hardened in the streets". There's much more to it than that right. The details and beats in the arc really make D'Angelo's story great to me right, although it's just one of many great character arcs in the show.
Yeah, I was probably a bit harsh with my words. It was definately very well written, I just not one of the characters I would mention to someone when talking about the show (unlike Bubbles or Omar for example).
I dunno, D probably would have turned eventually. Prison life looked pretty easy for him in what we saw, if that ever changed I don't think he'd have been willing to give up 20 years of his life for Stringer and Avon.
I couldn't sleep last saturday so I started using my mates laptop and found the second season on it and proceeded to burn through the episodes til dawn when mine and the laptops battery ran out.
Now I'm gonna have to rewatch the whole series again *sigh*.
Now I'm gonna have to rewatch the whole series again *sigh*.
HBO picks up six-hour miniseries on race from David Simon
'Show Me a Hero' will film in New York where events took place
The long relationship between HBO and David Simon will continue with the Baltimore filmmaker co-writing and producing "Show Me a Hero," a six-hour miniseries, for the premium cable channel.
Based on the non-fiction book of the same title by Lisa Belkin, the series that explores race relations in the 1980s and '90s in Yonkers, N.Y., will star Oscar Isaac and Catherine Keener.
Simon said in an email to The Sun that the miniseries will be filmed in Yonkers, because that's where the real-life events it covers took place. He said filming will start there Oct. 1.
"In an America generations removed from the greatest civil rights struggle of the 1960s, the young mayor of a mid-sized American city is faced with a federal court order that says he must build a small number of low-income housing units in the white neighborhoods of the town," HBO's description of the miniseries said.
"His attempt to do so tears the entire city apart, paralyzes the entire municipal government and, ultimately, destroys the mayor and his political future." ... 'Show me a Hero' explores notions of home, race and community through the lives of elected officials, bureaucrats, activists and ordinary citizens of Yonkers, N.Y."
Serving alongside Simon as executive producer and writer on the series will be Bill Zorzi, who, like Simon, was a reporter at the Baltimore Sun. Zorzi also worked on "The Wire" with Simon as a writer and producer.
Gail Mutrux and Nina Noble will also be executive producers, along with Paul Haggis, who will also direct.
Isaac will play Mayor Nick Wasicsko, while Keener will portray Mary Dorman, an East Yonkers home owner.
The series will be produced under the banner of Simon's production company, "A Blown Deadline Production."
In a November interview with The Sun as his series "Treme" finished production, Simon said he might be leaving HBO -- and possibly TV production altogether.
"I don’t know," Simon said in that interview. "I turned in work on a couple of series and a miniseries to HBO to finish out my development deal, and they'll either want to make some of it or they won't. It’s kind of up to them.
"I have to say," he continued, "I’m sort of at this point wondering if I'm not a strange fit for television. And ‘The Wire’ was sort of fire in the bottle, because nobody watched 'The Wire' when it was on the air. And nobody watched 'Generation Kill.' And nobody watched 'Treme.'"
It's good to see David Simon and HBO are still in business together.
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/20...30_1_david-simon-generation-kill-series-treme
The Wire is the best show I've ever seen on television, I wish they remaster it on blu ray and re-release it.
It's a good show but the 4:3 aspect ratio definitely ruins it for me.
Watched it this week. It's so good.
I stopped noticing it after the first episode lol
Great show. Finished all 5 seasons in 1 month.
that's well slow
How long after watching this does the racism end? I'm currently thinking the word nigga every 2 or 3 sentences and I'm don't want to land myself in an awkward situation.
Every time I see this bumped I think theres an announcement of a 6th series 
You've gotta find other ways of letting it out. Walk up and down some city corner shouting "Pandemic!", that should do it.
I could do that, but if some smartarse whose seen the wire starts shouting "Omar's coming yo, Omars coming" I will shit myself.
I always end up saying that after watching it.
I've finally got my missus to start watching it. We're up to about episode 6 and she doesn't seem impressed. The problem I have is she known to purposely dislike something when she knows I like it to try and wind me up.
She's a huge Sopranos fan though so I'm thinking season 2 will hook her more (also my fave series).
Whenever I start rewatching this show though it seems to take over my life. I think about it all day at work, and even though this is my sixth time of watching it in its entirety I enjoy as much as I did the first time. I suppose that's the biggest compliment you can pay it, it never gets old.
Ey oh, Bey. You come at the king, you best not miss.
Ruins? I hope this is an exaggeration?
Anyway, I believe they had reasons for insisting on the 4:3, in terms of framing of shots and the like.
but HBO has yet to comment on what aspect ration The Wire will have when it returns.
Not touching it if it's 4:3
Not touching it if it's 4:3
This show is so good. I only finished this only a month or so ago but I think I may just rewatch it again so soon. With Breaking Bad I was fine for about a year or so, same with Game of Thrones. Testament to how amazing it is, number one for sure.
"Do the chair know we gonna look like some punk-ass bitches?" This scene always makes me laugh.
Why wouldn't it be 4:3?
I dunno, but it would be weird watching it in a widescreen format. I've seen the entire show a few times now, and the 4:3 is almost as big a part of the show to me as the plot and character's themselves.
I much watch this, never got round to it the first time ,