Which one is series 4 again? Not the schools one?
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Ive only watched The Wire once through. Considering how many times I have seen The Shield, Oz, Sopranos, even Breaking Bad I have done twice. I really should watch them again.
I remember the schools one being good but I dont remember it being as good as you and others are saying. Itd be interesting to see how much more I got from a second viewing - I am a firm believer that you get a lot from subsequent viewings of these shows. In fact, I dont remember specific high points in any of The Wire, in terms of one series being much better than another, except for a feeling of vague disappointment about series 2, which I seem to remember not loving.
Its decided. I am going to rewatch The Wire. At some stage.
Its decided. I am going to rewatch The Wire. At some stage.
I didn't like season 2 on first viewing but enjoyed it a bit more on the second viewing, especially thanks to Sobotka's performance. But all in all, I think there are a few problems with that season.
I agree with the people above, season 4 is the best. The storyline is perfect, all the acting is brilliant (as in every season, but worth pointing out as there are also kids in this one, who can often be annoying when acting), it's faultless.
I agree with the people above, season 4 is the best. The storyline is perfect, all the acting is brilliant (as in every season, but worth pointing out as there are also kids in this one, who can often be annoying when acting), it's faultless.
Season two is generally regarded as weak compared to 1, 3 and 4 but it's much better on second viewing, so I'd recommend doing so.
I loved season 2.
5 was the only weak one for me.
5 was the only weak one for me.
Season 3 is my fave, followed by s 2. I liked s 4 the least tbh.
Finished watching all of the seasons in about a month (including watching the whole of S4 pretty much in one sitting). Superb stuff really. Now that I've supposedly watched two of the greatest shows ever (this and Breaking Bad), I've got The Sopranos left 
Loved this bit from S2:
Season 4 is probably my favourite, followed by Season 2.
Loved this bit from S2:
Season 4 is probably my favourite, followed by Season 2.
The Sopranos is incredible, you'll love it. I hope you've managed to avoid any spoilers!
Stay out of the thread on here, it's littered with them!
Stay out of the thread on here, it's littered with them!
It is? That's good as I'm about to start season 1, episode 1. Having 80+ episodes to watch seems enjoyable though, looking forward to it.
Will do mate. There was a fecking Sopranos spoiler in here (!) but you managed to point that out to Alex earlier in the thread.The Wire is the drama series with most rewarding rewatch value imo. There were tons and tons of stuff I didn't pick up on the first watch.
Onto season 3 now, very good show that just keeps getting better.
Loving the cheeky appearance of the guy who plays Petyr Baelish in Game of Thrones as the councillor- looks bloody young, and almost like a different man.
Loving the cheeky appearance of the guy who plays Petyr Baelish in Game of Thrones as the councillor- looks bloody young, and almost like a different man.
Finally finished season 5 such a great show. Think it is;
4=3>2=1>>5
4=3>2=1>>5
What an experience this television show is. This is my third time watching this series now as the missus had never seen it (and she was sick of listening to me saying how much better it is that Breaking Bad, her flavour of the month for the past while, so she agreed to start The Wire last week) and it just astounds me how good it is. We're halfway through Season Two at the minute and the missus is finally admitting The Wire is the best programme she's ever seen. I've told her Season Three is arguably better than Season One and Two, and that Four will blow her away, but she doesn't believe it can get any better than it currently is.
Ah, what I'd give to experience this show for the first time again. It genuinely is an astonishing piece of television.
Ah, what I'd give to experience this show for the first time again. It genuinely is an astonishing piece of television.
Yes it is, the more one see's the better it gets. Should start my third watching soon.
I watched it first time around with my father when it was aired on FX here in the UK back a couple of years ago. We were obsessed with it after only a few episodes, and it would dominate our conversations for days at a time. I went out and bought the boxset on DVD about eighteen months ago and watched it on my own pretty much straight through, and now re-watching again with the missus. I like watching shows with other people as it be a conversation starter, but I probably enjoyed my second viewing of it the most of all as I could watch it whenever and for how long I wanted. I genuinely lost track of all the 3am bedtimes I had over this show, it's impossible to turn off when you're so absorbed in it.
I know pretty much every character by name now and every detail of the plot, yet I still find myself spending hours on various message boards and chatrooms reading and posting about the programme. In the nicest possible way, this programme is haunting me.
You should try Treme. It's not as exciting as The Wire but it's got a nice vibe to it, and some of the same actors.
Which unfortunately means Clarke Peters (Lester Freamon), being similarly not very good in this.
Which unfortunately means Clarke Peters (Lester Freamon), being similarly not very good in this.
Episode 12 of season 4 is on Sky Atlantic now.
Currently going through it for the second time, I've just started season 5. Amazing show with brilliant characters, too many to name.
Season 4 spoilers:
Watched Bodie's death scene last night. Amazing that I felt sorry for him despite him killing Wallace in the first season.
I know it's coming but Dookie's downfall is going to make me feel like shit again .
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Reformed Hitman Who Inspired 'The Wire's' Omar Dies at 58
Donnie Andrews was a Baltimore hitman who turned police informant and inspired David Simon to create the popular character.
Donnie Andrews, a former Baltimore drug world hitman whose life partly provided the inspiration for the character of Omar Little on HBO's beloved crime epic The Wire, has died at 58 from heart complications, the Baltimore Sun reports.
Andrews was surrounded by violence for much of his life, growing up in an abusive household and even bearing witness to a brutal murder at a young age -- allegedly over 15 cents. He soon was taken in by criminals and was robbing drug dealers at gunpoint in his teens. By 1986, he was addicted to heroin and carrying out hits for a drug kingpin.
Andrews was arrested for the murder of two drug dealers, a crime for which he turned himself in and never sought a lesser sentence. He offered to cooperate with authorities "to repent" and soon was wearing a wire, capturing conversations implicating other criminals.
Andrews was paroled in 2005, and he devoted the remainder of his years to advocating to keep youths on the right side of the law.
The Wire creator David Simon was a crime reporter for the Sun at the time of Andrews' arrest and sent him copies of the newspaper while he served a life term in federal prison. He'd later use him as a consultant on The Wire, where Andrews, along with several other drug world assassins, became the inspiration for Omar -- the stone-cold killer with a moral code.
Played by Michael K. Williams, Omar was a Baltimore underworld legend who never deviated from his own set of rules, the golden one being that he never threatened anyone not in "the game." Unlike Andrews, Simon made Omar gay. He had three lovers during the course of the series.
Williams, who now plays Chalky White on HBO's Boardwalk Empire, saluted his real-world inspiration on Twitter, writing on Friday, "R.I.P. to the original gangsta and a stand up dude Mr Donnie Andrews the man who was the inspiration for Omar Little sending out prayers."
RIP Omar
Reformed Hitman Who Inspired 'The Wire's' Omar Dies at 58
Donnie Andrews was a Baltimore hitman who turned police informant and inspired David Simon to create the popular character.
Donnie Andrews, a former Baltimore drug world hitman whose life partly provided the inspiration for the character of Omar Little on HBO's beloved crime epic The Wire, has died at 58 from heart complications, the Baltimore Sun reports.
Andrews was surrounded by violence for much of his life, growing up in an abusive household and even bearing witness to a brutal murder at a young age -- allegedly over 15 cents. He soon was taken in by criminals and was robbing drug dealers at gunpoint in his teens. By 1986, he was addicted to heroin and carrying out hits for a drug kingpin.
Andrews was arrested for the murder of two drug dealers, a crime for which he turned himself in and never sought a lesser sentence. He offered to cooperate with authorities "to repent" and soon was wearing a wire, capturing conversations implicating other criminals.
Andrews was paroled in 2005, and he devoted the remainder of his years to advocating to keep youths on the right side of the law.
The Wire creator David Simon was a crime reporter for the Sun at the time of Andrews' arrest and sent him copies of the newspaper while he served a life term in federal prison. He'd later use him as a consultant on The Wire, where Andrews, along with several other drug world assassins, became the inspiration for Omar -- the stone-cold killer with a moral code.
Played by Michael K. Williams, Omar was a Baltimore underworld legend who never deviated from his own set of rules, the golden one being that he never threatened anyone not in "the game." Unlike Andrews, Simon made Omar gay. He had three lovers during the course of the series.
Williams, who now plays Chalky White on HBO's Boardwalk Empire, saluted his real-world inspiration on Twitter, writing on Friday, "R.I.P. to the original gangsta and a stand up dude Mr Donnie Andrews the man who was the inspiration for Omar Little sending out prayers."
RIP Omar
Unrelated to the bump, but having skated through the first season and a half of The Wire, I haven't watched an episode in past two nights. I am not joking when I say I think I am getting withdrawal symptoms, I can't wait to tune in to it tonight.
I'm still having difficulty getting into it
I have a group of friends who think it's the greatest show ever but I think it's vastly overrated.
It's good and I enjoy watching it but IMO nowhere near as great as the likes of The West Wing or Sopranos.
It's good and I enjoy watching it but IMO nowhere near as great as the likes of The West Wing or Sopranos.
Repent!
You, sir, are wrong.
A lot of people have this problem. But it seems to be that the people who do get in to it generally believe it to be the best show ever.
Finally going to start watching this today. Gosh, I am late.
Just rewatched it. All five seasons. I's just brilliant, no other words. The one I liked a little less was season 2, the ports.
Best series ever.
Best series ever.
No matter how many good shows you watch, this one just tops it for me.
Have been watching quite a few shows recently, from September to December, and with the winter breaks, we're getting back into it with my girlfriend. We'd stopped at the end of season 3 so we put on season 4 (my favourite) last night and watched the two first episodes, it's such a joy to watch. The writing, the acting, there's no fault. I'm also picking up on some subtleties I missed on first viewing, like how episode 2 is built to point out similarities between the different people in the town, how they're all faced with the same dilemmas, whether they're kids, police, teachers, politicians or drug dealers, some using the same sentences to address problems that are alike (like the question of people not being grafters anymore, which you see both in the police force and the drug clans, etc.). I just love it.
Have been watching quite a few shows recently, from September to December, and with the winter breaks, we're getting back into it with my girlfriend. We'd stopped at the end of season 3 so we put on season 4 (my favourite) last night and watched the two first episodes, it's such a joy to watch. The writing, the acting, there's no fault. I'm also picking up on some subtleties I missed on first viewing, like how episode 2 is built to point out similarities between the different people in the town, how they're all faced with the same dilemmas, whether they're kids, police, teachers, politicians or drug dealers, some using the same sentences to address problems that are alike (like the question of people not being grafters anymore, which you see both in the police force and the drug clans, etc.). I just love it.
feck me, are we doppelgangers living in a parallel universe? I stuck in The Wire season 4 last night myself and watched those two exact episodes with the missus as well.
Brilliant viewing, can't wait to watch more tonight.
I personally love season 4 out of all the seasons too. The stories of Michael and Dookie, in particular, are captivating.
Same here, it's especially because of the kids (nothing fishy or Arsène Wenger-y about this comment, I assure you) that I love season 4, I remember some scenes with Dookie almost bringing me to tears. Michael's story is also brilliant, with a great sense of fatality about it.
In season 4, I also really enjoy Carcetti's campaign and his election.
In season 4, I also really enjoy Carcetti's campaign and his election.
As for the parallel universes... Yeah, maybe Manchester and Paris are in different universes!
i watched eps 1 & 2 of season 4 last night too!
maybe its like women who live together getting their menstuals at the smae time, cafites wire-cycles have become aligned
i noticed in episode 1 how Royces receptionists passes him a note asking him for a quick 10mins with so-and-so but he shrugs her off in a hurry and says maybe tomorrow, then in episode 2 haulk catches him getting a hummer off her. I'd never linked those 2 things before so throwaway was the first scene but there it was layered away for future viewings. what a show
maybe its like women who live together getting their menstuals at the smae time, cafites wire-cycles have become aligned
i noticed in episode 1 how Royces receptionists passes him a note asking him for a quick 10mins with so-and-so but he shrugs her off in a hurry and says maybe tomorrow, then in episode 2 haulk catches him getting a hummer off her. I'd never linked those 2 things before so throwaway was the first scene but there it was layered away for future viewings. what a show
Interesting theory. This has to be looked into.
I'm watching Homicide right now. It's not quite The Wire, but it's a pretty decent substitute. It's a good show to watch if you're looking for something you haven't seen before that is somewhat along the same lines. You can definitely see where some of the elements that made The Wire great begin to take shape.
Season 4 is definitely the best for me. Season's 2 the worst by a distance.
Yeah, Homicide is top notch. Love that show.
Should've bought it when it was £45 on amazon. Now it's £65
Yeah, Homicide is top notch. Love that show.
Should've bought it when it was £45 on amazon. Now it's £65
I listened to the abridged audiobook a few years ago, and the show is a very good extension of that. It's a bit as if the first season of The Wire were stretched out into an entire multi-season show. You don't get the other seasons in different settings, so it's not a comprehensive study of inner-city problems, but it's quite good from the police aspect.
Also it helps that I like all the actors involved.
Yaphet Koto is the man.