The Virgin League Draft | Winner: GodShaveTheQueen

[Indnyc]

I’ll take Yaya Toure @Pat_Mustard @Jim Beam

 

[Indnyc]

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Time (min)

1. harms

G. Netzer

M. Belodedici

H. Krankl

R. Pavoni

H. Wimmer

P. Sousa

I. Chislenko

M. Reus

W. Samuel

323

2. Enigma_87

Rivellino

M. Trésor

J. Pirri

Maicon

Careca

A. Vidal

S. Mane

T. Müller

V. Kompany

385

3. Joga & Theon

B.Vogts

A.Picchi

A.Spencer

D. Zoff

D. Mackay

B.Wright

J. Verón

T. Haßler

A. Giresse

394

4. Zlatan 7

C. Seedorf

Aldair

J. Klinsmann

S. Busquets

R. Donadoni

M. Reiziger

D. Albertini

S. Pearce

D. Ginola

638

5. Physiocrat

B. Schuster

F. Albert

J. Santamaria

J. Ceulemans

H. Crespo

M. Zagallo

V. Bessonov

M. Carrick

E. Hughes

107

6. Šjor Bepo & Gio

A. Pirlo

Hidegkuti

K. Mbappé

P. Gascoigne

N. Kanté

C. Mozer

W.Sagnol

W. Zenga

B. Dietz

373

7. Michaelf7777777

R. Bochini

N. Goncalves

Leandro

J. Charles

M. Salah

C. Gamarra

T. Gemmell

M. Khurtsilava

G. Bulgarelli

2938

8. Edgar Allan Pillow

D. Beckham

D. Irwin

T. Adams

G. Silva

B. Murdoch

R. Pires

A. Cole

D. Yorke

B. McNeill

367

9. King Kendrick

Sócrates

V. Van Dijk

M. Ballack

S. Ramos

E. Cantona

E. Hazard

R. Sterling

Juanfran

W. Jansen

102

10. SirScholes

S. Aguero

Tostao

J. Terry

F. Collovati

M. Tassoti

L. Brady

G. Hoddle

Casemiro

A. Ortega

1316

11. BIG DUNK

D. Bergkamp

J. Heynckes

F. Bene

L. Yashin

G. Buchwald

R. Perfumo

Jorginho

R. Benetti

R. Gordillo

382

12. Indnyc

R. Lewandowski

F. Lampard

Rui Costa

G. Gattuso

S. Bruce

R. Ayala

C. Panucci

V. Anderson

Y. Toure

300

13. Pat_Mustard & Jim Beam

Marcelo

R. Koeman

L. Kubala

E. Francescoli

E. Cambiasso

I. Casillas

O. Bergmark

T. Alexander - Arnold

506

14. Fortitude

T. Finney

T. Cerezo

A. Haan

U. Hoeness

D. Stojković

R. Varane

G. Hanappi

J. Altafini

780

15. Himannv

K. Keegan

K. Dalglish

B. Hulshoff

H. Szymaniak

J. Armfield

J. Rep

J. Litmanen

H. Blankenburg

179

16. GodShaveTheQueen

K. Hamrin

O. Sivori

D. Blanchflower

B. Bremner

J. Fontaine

P. Littbarski

R. Bratseth

A. Benarrivo

32

 

[Pat_Mustard]

Nils Liedholm @Fortitude

 

[Pat_Mustard]

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Time (min)

1. harms

G. Netzer

M. Belodedici

H. Krankl

R. Pavoni

H. Wimmer

P. Sousa

I. Chislenko

M. Reus

W. Samuel

323

2. Enigma_87

Rivellino

M. Trésor

J. Pirri

Maicon

Careca

A. Vidal

S. Mane

T. Müller

V. Kompany

385

3. Joga & Theon

B.Vogts

A.Picchi

A.Spencer

D. Zoff

D. Mackay

B.Wright

J. Verón

T. Haßler

A. Giresse

394

4. Zlatan 7

C. Seedorf

Aldair

J. Klinsmann

S. Busquets

R. Donadoni

M. Reiziger

D. Albertini

S. Pearce

D. Ginola

638

5. Physiocrat

B. Schuster

F. Albert

J. Santamaria

J. Ceulemans

H. Crespo

M. Zagallo

V. Bessonov

M. Carrick

E. Hughes

107

6. Šjor Bepo & Gio

A. Pirlo

Hidegkuti

K. Mbappé

P. Gascoigne

N. Kanté

C. Mozer

W.Sagnol

W. Zenga

B. Dietz

373

7. Michaelf7777777

R. Bochini

N. Goncalves

Leandro

J. Charles

M. Salah

C. Gamarra

T. Gemmell

M. Khurtsilava

G. Bulgarelli

2938

8. Edgar Allan Pillow

D. Beckham

D. Irwin

T. Adams

G. Silva

B. Murdoch

R. Pires

A. Cole

D. Yorke

B. McNeill

367

9. King Kendrick

Sócrates

V. Van Dijk

M. Ballack

S. Ramos

E. Cantona

E. Hazard

R. Sterling

Juanfran

W. Jansen

102

10. SirScholes

S. Aguero

Tostao

J. Terry

F. Collovati

M. Tassoti

L. Brady

G. Hoddle

Casemiro

A. Ortega

1316

11. BIG DUNK

D. Bergkamp

J. Heynckes

F. Bene

L. Yashin

G. Buchwald

R. Perfumo

Jorginho

R. Benetti

R. Gordillo

382

12. Indnyc

R. Lewandowski

F. Lampard

Rui Costa

G. Gattuso

S. Bruce

R. Ayala

C. Panucci

V. Anderson

Y. Toure

300

13. Pat_Mustard & Jim Beam

Marcelo

R. Koeman

L. Kubala

E. Francescoli

E. Cambiasso

I. Casillas

O. Bergmark

T. Alexander - Arnold

N. Liedholm

512

14. Fortitude

T. Finney

T. Cerezo

A. Haan

U. Hoeness

D. Stojković

R. Varane

G. Hanappi

J. Altafini

780

15. Himannv

K. Keegan

K. Dalglish

B. Hulshoff

H. Szymaniak

J. Armfield

J. Rep

J. Litmanen

H. Blankenburg

179

16. GodShaveTheQueen

K. Hamrin

O. Sivori

D. Blanchflower

B. Bremner

J. Fontaine

P. Littbarski

R. Bratseth

A. Benarrivo

32

 

[Fortitude]

Nils Liedholm @Fortitude

Finally! One of 'em is off the board! Great pick.

 

[Fortitude]

The Gordillo pick ruined my selection.

I'm going to take Jordi Alba and leave Mr. Aceman on the board.

@Himannv

 

[GodShaveTheQueen]

@Invictus

 

[Invictus]

Hey mate, please pick Kenny Sansom and Johnny Giles if my turn comes up.

Germano and Grosics

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Time (min)

1. harms

G. Netzer

M. Belodedici

H. Krankl

R. Pavoni

H. Wimmer

P. Sousa

I. Chislenko

M. Reus

W. Samuel

323

2. Enigma_87

Rivellino

M. Trésor

J. Pirri

Maicon

Careca

A. Vidal

S. Mane

T. Müller

V. Kompany

385

3. Joga & Theon

B.Vogts

A.Picchi

A.Spencer

D. Zoff

D. Mackay

B.Wright

J. Verón

T. Haßler

A. Giresse

394

4. Zlatan 7

C. Seedorf

Aldair

J. Klinsmann

S. Busquets

R. Donadoni

M. Reiziger

D. Albertini

S. Pearce

D. Ginola

638

5. Physiocrat

B. Schuster

F. Albert

J. Santamaria

J. Ceulemans

H. Crespo

M. Zagallo

V. Bessonov

M. Carrick

E. Hughes

107

6. Šjor Bepo & Gio

A. Pirlo

Hidegkuti

K. Mbappé

P. Gascoigne

N. Kanté

C. Mozer

W.Sagnol

W. Zenga

B. Dietz

373

7. Michaelf7777777

R. Bochini

N. Goncalves

Leandro

J. Charles

M. Salah

C. Gamarra

T. Gemmell

M. Khurtsilava

G. Bulgarelli

2938

8. Edgar Allan Pillow

D. Beckham

D. Irwin

T. Adams

G. Silva

B. Murdoch

R. Pires

A. Cole

D. Yorke

B. McNeill

367

9. King Kendrick

Sócrates

V. Van Dijk

M. Ballack

S. Ramos

E. Cantona

E. Hazard

R. Sterling

Juanfran

W. Jansen

102

10. SirScholes

S. Aguero

Tostao

J. Terry

F. Collovati

M. Tassoti

L. Brady

G. Hoddle

Casemiro

A. Ortega

1316

11. BIG DUNK

D. Bergkamp

J. Heynckes

F. Bene

L. Yashin

G. Buchwald

R. Perfumo

Jorginho

R. Benetti

R. Gordillo

382

12. Indnyc

R. Lewandowski

F. Lampard

Rui Costa

G. Gattuso

S. Bruce

R. Ayala

C. Panucci

V. Anderson

Y. Toure

300

13. Pat_Mustard & Jim Beam

Marcelo

R. Koeman

L. Kubala

E. Francescoli

E. Cambiasso

I. Casillas

O. Bergmark

T. Alexander - Arnold

N. Liedholm

512

14. Fortitude

T. Finney

T. Cerezo

A. Haan

U. Hoeness

D. Stojković

R. Varane

G. Hanappi

J. Altafini

J. Alba

785

15. Himannv

K. Keegan

K. Dalglish

B. Hulshoff

H. Szymaniak

J. Armfield

J. Rep

J. Litmanen

H. Blankenburg

K Sansom

J. Giles

199

16. GodShaveTheQueen

K. Hamrin

O. Sivori

D. Blanchflower

B. Bremner

J. Fontaine

P. Littbarski

R. Bratseth

A. Benarrivo

Germano

G. Grosics

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@Fortitude

 

[Fortitude]

And I thought about this one as a left field pick for a while: Joshua Kimmich

@Jim Beam
@Pat_Mustard

 

[Šjor Bepo]

Finally! One of 'em is off the board! Great pick.

Yap, thats him. Unreal he lasted so long.....

 

[Pat_Mustard]

Finally! One of 'em is off the board! Great pick.

Cheers!

And I thought about this one as a left field pick for a while: Joshua Kimmich

@Jim Beam
@Pat_Mustard

We mulled over picking him for ages.

 

[Šjor Bepo]

Would that be the block list for those draft plus all the players drafted in this one?

Yap, that would be the plan

 

[Enigma_87]

Yap, thats him. Unreal he lasted so long.....

I was thinking about another one that is not picked. Very versatile too, yet he doesn't catch much attention in drafts for some reason.

 

[Fortitude]

Yap, thats him. Unreal he lasted so long.....

He was one from three others left I was going to have to deliberate on choosing come the 12th round.

Between he and Hanappi it was a case of picking a direction to take the team in. Thought he'd be a no-brainer for someone before the 3rd round was up, tbh.

 

[Šjor Bepo]

I was thinking about another one that is not picked. Very versatile too, yet he doesn't catch much attention in drafts for some reason.

The pool is huge and there will be so many forgotten greats that will go unpicked, part of the reason id like to play the reserve thing as well

 

[Fortitude]

Cheers!



We mulled over picking him for ages.

I don't like being behind you two in a draft one bit...

 

[Enigma_87]

The pool is huge and there will be so many forgotten greats that will go unpicked, part of the reason id like to play the reserve thing as well

yeah you can arguably create a very good side even with the players still left to be picked.

 

[Pat_Mustard]

We'll take Dario Pereyra @Indnyc

 

[Pat_Mustard]

Manager

Round 1

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Time (min)

1. harms

G. Netzer

M. Belodedici

H. Krankl

R. Pavoni

H. Wimmer

P. Sousa

I. Chislenko

M. Reus

W. Samuel

323

2. Enigma_87

Rivellino

M. Trésor

J. Pirri

Maicon

Careca

A. Vidal

S. Mane

T. Müller

V. Kompany

385

3. Joga & Theon

B.Vogts

A.Picchi

A.Spencer

D. Zoff

D. Mackay

B.Wright

J. Verón

T. Haßler

A. Giresse

394

4. Zlatan 7

C. Seedorf

Aldair

J. Klinsmann

S. Busquets

R. Donadoni

M. Reiziger

D. Albertini

S. Pearce

D. Ginola

638

5. Physiocrat

B. Schuster

F. Albert

J. Santamaria

J. Ceulemans

H. Crespo

M. Zagallo

V. Bessonov

M. Carrick

E. Hughes

107

6. Šjor Bepo & Gio

A. Pirlo

Hidegkuti

K. Mbappé

P. Gascoigne

N. Kanté

C. Mozer

W.Sagnol

W. Zenga

B. Dietz

373

7. Michaelf7777777

R. Bochini

N. Goncalves

Leandro

J. Charles

M. Salah

C. Gamarra

T. Gemmell

M. Khurtsilava

G. Bulgarelli

2938

8. Edgar Allan Pillow

D. Beckham

D. Irwin

T. Adams

G. Silva

B. Murdoch

R. Pires

A. Cole

D. Yorke

B. McNeill

367

9. King Kendrick

Sócrates

V. Van Dijk

M. Ballack

S. Ramos

E. Cantona

E. Hazard

R. Sterling

Juanfran

W. Jansen

102

10. SirScholes

S. Aguero

Tostao

J. Terry

F. Collovati

M. Tassoti

L. Brady

G. Hoddle

Casemiro

A. Ortega

1316

11. BIG DUNK

D. Bergkamp

J. Heynckes

F. Bene

L. Yashin

G. Buchwald

R. Perfumo

Jorginho

R. Benetti

R. Gordillo

382

12. Indnyc

R. Lewandowski

F. Lampard

Rui Costa

G. Gattuso

S. Bruce

R. Ayala

C. Panucci

V. Anderson

Y. Toure

300

13. Pat_Mustard & Jim Beam

Marcelo

R. Koeman

L. Kubala

E. Francescoli

E. Cambiasso

I. Casillas

O. Bergmark

T. Alexander - Arnold

N. Liedholm

D. Pereyra

524

14. Fortitude

T. Finney

T. Cerezo

A. Haan

U. Hoeness

D. Stojković

R. Varane

G. Hanappi

J. Altafini

J. Alba

J. Kimmich

789

15. Himannv

K. Keegan

K. Dalglish

B. Hulshoff

H. Szymaniak

J. Armfield

J. Rep

J. Litmanen

H. Blankenburg

K Sansom

J. Giles

199

16. GodShaveTheQueen

K. Hamrin

O. Sivori

D. Blanchflower

B. Bremner

J. Fontaine

P. Littbarski

R. Bratseth

A. Benarrivo

Germano

G. Grosics

42

[/QUOTE]

 

[GodShaveTheQueen]

I know I am tuning my own horn but Germano really deserves a better standing in drafts here. Hulshoff finally seems to have made the cut with regular appearances in drafts now and was delighted when he went in round 3. This was a draft where Germano should have gone at least in the first half of drafting. Even that is being modest, as his stature in the 60s was huge.

 

[Enigma_87]

I know I am tuning my own horn but Germano really deserves a better standing in drafts here. Hulshoff finally seems to have made the cut with regular appearances in drafts now and was delighted when he went in round 3. This was a draft where Germano should have gone at least in the first half of drafting. Even that is being modest, as his stature in the 60s was huge.

Was torn between him and Kompany in my last pick. The reason why I went with the latter is because I know him better and he would fit in the team so far. It's a shame he doesn't get much recognition in drafts - that's true, considering he was an integral part of one of the most dominant sides in the 60's that got better of Real on more than one occasion.

 

[Fortitude]

I know I am tuning my own horn but Germano really deserves a better standing in drafts here. Hulshoff finally seems to have made the cut with regular appearances in drafts now and was delighted when he went in round 3. This was a draft where Germano should have gone at least in the first half of drafting. Even that is being modest, as his stature in the 60s was huge.

He was on my core list, but I don't know how he's rated round here so was never a consideration. There a few from that era who seem to curry no favour and are subsequently left on the board despite being superstars of their era. Hard to pick them when they might prove costly for you.

 

[GodShaveTheQueen]

He was on more core list, but I don't know how he's rated round here

I wont say he is not rated among people who are aware of him but my best guess is most are not too knowledgeable about him. Most wouldn’t be able to name more than 3-4 players from that Benfica side, so it’s understandable. Compare that to the Real, Inter, United or even the great Celtic team from that era and most would name more than half the team easily.

And those who rate him probably don’t pick him for the same reason. Won’t buy votes. Like @Enigma_87 , I was torn between Kompany and Germano too but he made the decision easy for me.

 

[Physiocrat]

Yap, that would be the plan

It would be interesting to see how many blocks you would need to have a side that is just marginally better than say the current Barca, Bayern and Pool sides

 

[Indnyc]

@BIG DUNK

Manager

Round 1

Round 2

Round 3

Round 4

Round 5

Round 6

Round 7

Round 8

Round 9

Round 10

Round 11

Round 12

Time (min)

1. harms

G. Netzer

M. Belodedici

H. Krankl

R. Pavoni

H. Wimmer

P. Sousa

I. Chislenko

M. Reus

W. Samuel

323

2. Enigma_87

Rivellino

M. Trésor

J. Pirri

Maicon

Careca

A. Vidal

S. Mane

T. Müller

V. Kompany

385

3. Joga & Theon

B.Vogts

A.Picchi

A.Spencer

D. Zoff

D. Mackay

B.Wright

J. Verón

T. Haßler

A. Giresse

394

4. Zlatan 7

C. Seedorf

Aldair

J. Klinsmann

S. Busquets

R. Donadoni

M. Reiziger

D. Albertini

S. Pearce

D. Ginola

638

5. Physiocrat

B. Schuster

F. Albert

J. Santamaria

J. Ceulemans

H. Crespo

M. Zagallo

V. Bessonov

M. Carrick

E. Hughes

107

6. Šjor Bepo & Gio

A. Pirlo

Hidegkuti

K. Mbappé

P. Gascoigne

N. Kanté

C. Mozer

W.Sagnol

W. Zenga

B. Dietz

373

7. Michaelf7777777

R. Bochini

N. Goncalves

Leandro

J. Charles

M. Salah

C. Gamarra

T. Gemmell

M. Khurtsilava

G. Bulgarelli

2938

8. Edgar Allan Pillow

D. Beckham

D. Irwin

T. Adams

G. Silva

B. Murdoch

R. Pires

A. Cole

D. Yorke

B. McNeill

367

9. King Kendrick

Sócrates

V. Van Dijk

M. Ballack

S. Ramos

E. Cantona

E. Hazard

R. Sterling

Juanfran

W. Jansen

102

10. SirScholes

S. Aguero

Tostao

J. Terry

F. Collovati

M. Tassoti

L. Brady

G. Hoddle

Casemiro

A. Ortega

1316

11. BIG DUNK

D. Bergkamp

J. Heynckes

F. Bene

L. Yashin

G. Buchwald

R. Perfumo

Jorginho

R. Benetti

R. Gordillo

382

12. Indnyc

R. Lewandowski

F. Lampard

Rui Costa

G. Gattuso

S. Bruce

R. Ayala

C. Panucci

V. Anderson

Y. Toure

N. Southhall

318

13. Pat_Mustard & Jim Beam

Marcelo

R. Koeman

L. Kubala

E. Francescoli

E. Cambiasso

I. Casillas

O. Bergmark

T. Alexander - Arnold

N. Liedholm

D. Pereyra

524

14. Fortitude

T. Finney

T. Cerezo

A. Haan

U. Hoeness

D. Stojković

R. Varane

G. Hanappi

J. Altafini

J. Alba

J. Kimmich

789

15. Himannv

K. Keegan

K. Dalglish

B. Hulshoff

H. Szymaniak

J. Armfield

J. Rep

J. Litmanen

H. Blankenburg

K Sansom

J. Giles

199

16. GodShaveTheQueen

K. Hamrin

O. Sivori

D. Blanchflower

B. Bremner

J. Fontaine

P. Littbarski

R. Bratseth

A. Benarrivo

Germano

G. Grosics

42

 

[Fortitude]

I wont say he is not rated among people who are aware of him but my best guess is most are not too knowledgeable about him. Most wouldn’t be able to name more than 3-4 players from that Benfica side, so it’s understandable. Compare that too the Real, Inter, United or evening the great Celtic time from that era and most would name more than half the team easily.

And those who rate him probably don’t pick him for the same reason. Won’t buy votes. Like @Enigma_87 , I was torn between Kompany and Germano too but he made the decision easy for me.

Yes, I tend to think a glance at a side is half the battle and certain names instantly win some voters over whilst others, even if their credentials are stellar, will cause doubt and hesitation.

I'm not round these parts enough to say with certainty, but someone like Germano is an 'out there' pick, as far as I'm aware, which is why I'd be hesitant to pick him, and, as you say, a bunch of truly celebrated players from the same side he earned his stripes with.

Perhaps you will raise his profile with your amazing write up...

 

[Šjor Bepo]

It would be interesting to see how many blocks you would need to have a side that is just marginally better than say the current Barca, Bayern and Pool sides

Current barca? Reckon after 73. Reserve draft we might maybe struggle a bit.

 

[Enigma_87]

Yes, I tend to think a glance at a side is half the battle and certain names instantly win some voters over whilst others, even if their credentials are stellar, will cause doubt and hesitation.

I'm not round these parts enough to say with certainty, but someone like Germano is an 'out there' pick, as far as I'm aware, which is why I'd be hesitant to pick him, and, as you say, a bunch of truly celebrated players from the same side he earned his stripes with.

Perhaps you will raise his profile with your amazing write up...

thing is - a lot of this happens to older defenders, whilst rarely circumstances are taken into consideration.

Now I agree for guys that were playing in the 30s and 40's - or generally pre-war players, but some of the defenders from the 60's I think are getting some pretty hard deal.

For example Santamaria - 4-5 years ago he was considered as one of the best defenders historically - often picked in the opening 3-4 rounds in all time drafts, however he got rinsed a bit in couple of draft games and now makes the reserve list. A lot of this has to do with how open teams were back then and every mistake is really extrapolated.

 

[Fortitude]

thing is - a lot of this happens to older defenders, whilst rarely circumstances are taken into consideration.

Now I agree for guys that were playing in the 30s and 40's - or generally pre-war players, but some of the defenders from the 60's I think are getting some pretty hard deal.

For example Santamaria - 4-5 years ago he was considered as one of the best defenders historically - often picked in the opening 3-4 rounds in all time drafts, however he got rinsed a bit in couple of draft games and now makes the reserve list. A lot of this has to do with how open teams were back then and every mistake is really extrapolated.

Yes, I read through that particular turnaround, which was surreal and has had a long-lasting taint on Santamaria with no quarter given [back]. Germano should be a first half pick in a draft like this as GSTQ said - his versatility and quality across two positions should assure that, alone - but I wonder if he didn't pick him who would've simply due to the feeling he'll be a costly selection in the grand scheme of things.

 

[Enigma_87]

Yes, I read through that particular turnaround, which was surreal and has had a long-lasting taint on Santamaria with no quarter given [back]. Germano should be a first half pick in a draft like this as GSTQ said - his versatility and quality across two positions should assure that, alone - but I wonder if he didn't pick him who would've simply due to the feeling he'll be a costly selection in the grand scheme of things.

tbh, I picked Tresor and Pirri pretty early, hence not really concentrating on the second CB position up until later rounds and I had the DM covered too.. I'm not sure how would Germano be rated so you might pull a pretty good pick, or as you mentioned get targeted.

One thing for sure, I'd play him as CB. Tried once with Vasovic at DM (who also played there on occasion) in one draft game and got completely battered, resulting in subbing him off like 2 hrs after the start.

 

[Fortitude]

tbh, I picked Tresor and Pirri pretty early, hence not really concentrating on the second CB position up until later rounds and I had the DM covered too.. I'm not sure how would Germano be rated so you might pull a pretty good pick, or as you mentioned get targeted.

One thing for sure, I'd play him as CB. Tried once with Vasovic at DM (who also played there on occasion) in one draft game and got completely battered, resulting in subbing him off like 2 hrs after the start.

Once bitten, twice shy.

Shame that.

 

[Physiocrat]

Yes, I read through that particular turnaround, which was surreal and has had a long-lasting taint on Santamaria with no quarter given [back]. Germano should be a first half pick in a draft like this as GSTQ said - his versatility and quality across two positions should assure that, alone - but I wonder if he didn't pick him who would've simply due to the feeling he'll be a costly selection in the grand scheme of things.

Santamaria does seem to have been more accurately rated recently since that. If he's not in a high line and paired with a sweeper style CB he is well rated, well hopefully

 

[Fortitude]

Santamaria does seem to have been more accurately rated recently since that. If he's not in a high line and paired with a sweeper style CB he is well rated, well hopefully

It's not a dice you willingly roll though, is it? You're going to procrastinate on picking him and run through a list of other CB's first, no?

 

[Gio]

Despite the emergence of video footage from the 1950s, it’s just a tricky era to compare defenders. The game was so open and attacking it’s hard to separate the individual from the team that’s conceded a barrel-load of goals. It’s not just Germano, Billy Wright was a late pick for a player of his standing and Santamaria could feasibly have gone sooner as arguably the most accomplished central defender in the pool. Sometimes it’s even tricky to assess defenders in more cautious set-ups because they’re not dealing with all the modern inconveniences of high lines, passbacks, and attacker-friendly refereeing.

 

[Physiocrat]

It's not a dice you willingly roll though, is it? You're going to procrastinate on picking him and run through a list of other CB's first, no?

I willingly rolled it. I think he is easily one of the best CBs in the pool if you appropriately contextualise his career

 

[Pythagoras]

LUIS FERNANDEZ

Tactically a superb defensive midfielder, while still possessing the technical skills of a playmaker, and the raw energy and bite of a box-to-box dynamo.


Luis Fernandez‘s role in the French Magic Square:

“Luis Fernandez brought a combative element to the team as well as rejuvenating a side lacking in youth. He added greater balance to the square that had looked lopsided beforehand. He bossed each game with sophisticated charm. He added steel to the back four and was also the link between the defence and the attack. His industry and bite made him a prototype, a model midfielder and a vital midfield general. He was crucial in freeing up space for the Giresse and Platini to move forward and work the space. Despite his ruggedness he was more than just a midfield destroyer, he possessed a delightful touch, accuracy and a panoramic vision in reading the game. He was the final piece of puzzle to the Magic Square.”


@SirScholes

 

[Invictus]

Finally had the time to fine-tune the way I want to structure this draft so there are a couple of updates. Bit delayed, obviously, and I do apologize for springing this as a Round 10 surprise — but you can rest assured that the modifications won't be overly disruptive and shouldn't affect your preparations thus far in a significant way.

• You will now have to select 14 players instead of 12. Please make sure that all of these players can start a match for you if need be, and the ultimate/penultimate picks aren't absolute liabilities.

• At the end of the initial drafting phase, managers will have to rank everyone apart from themselves, in order from 1 to 15. Please make sure that you have at least a nebulous idea by the midway point of Round 14 at the latest, and are semi-ready to PM me your lists, so the whole counting/sorting process is expedited. The manager with the best ranking will receive a gift, much like the manager with the best time score (and no, the gift is not some sort of red herring or troll job). In case 2 or more managers end up with the same rank, the winner will be decided on the basis of their time scores.

• Instead of just 1 Group 1 match, some managers will have to play up to 2 matches in a league setup — the scheme will be explained in greater detail once the initial drafting phase is brought to a close and I have all of your ranking lists, so you don't have to worry right now.

That's it for the time being, good luck with the rest of your selections everyone!

* Another heads up — some of you will be able to figure out that the extra picks will be needed for swaps in the starting XI — you will only be required to change out-field players, so there's no need/reason to select multiple goalkeepers (unless you want to do it for your own reasons of course).

Manager

Round 1

Round 2

Round 3

Round 4

Round 5

Round 6

Round 7

Round 8

Round 9

Round 10

Round 11

Round 12

Round 13

Round 14

Time (min)

1. harms

G. Netzer

M. Belodedici

H. Krankl

R. Pavoni

H. Wimmer

P. Sousa

I. Chislenko

M. Reus

W. Samuel

323

2. Enigma_87

Rivellino

M. Trésor

J. Pirri

Maicon

Careca

A. Vidal

S. Mane

T. Müller

V. Kompany

385

3. Joga & Theon

B.Vogts

A.Picchi

A.Spencer

D. Zoff

D. Mackay

B.Wright

J. Verón

T. Haßler

A. Giresse

394

4. Zlatan 7

C. Seedorf

Aldair

J. Klinsmann

S. Busquets

R. Donadoni

M. Reiziger

D. Albertini

S. Pearce

D. Ginola

638

5. Physiocrat

B. Schuster

F. Albert

J. Santamaria

J. Ceulemans

H. Crespo

M. Zagallo

V. Bessonov

M. Carrick

E. Hughes

107

6. Šjor Bepo & Gio

A. Pirlo

Hidegkuti

K. Mbappé

P. Gascoigne

N. Kanté

C. Mozer

W.Sagnol

W. Zenga

B. Dietz

373

7. Michaelf7777777

R. Bochini

N. Goncalves

Leandro

J. Charles

M. Salah

C. Gamarra

T. Gemmell

M. Khurtsilava

G. Bulgarelli

2938

8. Edgar Allan Pillow

D. Beckham

D. Irwin

T. Adams

G. Silva

B. Murdoch

R. Pires

A. Cole

D. Yorke

B. McNeill

367

9. King Kendrick

Sócrates

V. Van Dijk

M. Ballack

S. Ramos

E. Cantona

E. Hazard

R. Sterling

Juanfran

W. Jansen

102

10. SirScholes

S. Aguero

Tostao

J. Terry

F. Collovati

M. Tassoti

L. Brady

G. Hoddle

Casemiro

A. Ortega

1316

11. BIG DUNK

D. Bergkamp

J. Heynckes

F. Bene

L. Yashin

G. Buchwald

R. Perfumo

Jorginho

R. Benetti

R. Gordillo

L. Fernandez

443

12. Indnyc

R. Lewandowski

F. Lampard

Rui Costa

G. Gattuso

S. Bruce

R. Ayala

C. Panucci

V. Anderson

Y. Toure

N. Southhall

318

13. Pat_Mustard & Jim Beam

Marcelo

R. Koeman

L. Kubala

E. Francescoli

E. Cambiasso

I. Casillas

O. Bergmark

T. Alexander - Arnold

N. Liedholm

D. Pereyra

524

14. Fortitude

T. Finney

T. Cerezo

A. Haan

U. Hoeness

D. Stojković

R. Varane

G. Hanappi

J. Altafini

J. Alba

J. Kimmich

789

15. Himannv

K. Keegan

K. Dalglish

B. Hulshoff

H. Szymaniak

J. Armfield

J. Rep

J. Litmanen

H. Blankenburg

K Sansom

J. Giles

199

16. GodShaveTheQueen

K. Hamrin

O. Sivori

D. Blanchflower

B. Bremner

J. Fontaine

P. Littbarski

R. Bratseth

A. Benarrivo

Germano

G. Grosics

42

 

[Gio]

I willingly rolled it. I think he is easily one of the best CBs in the pool if you appropriately contextualise his career

He was top of my list. cnut.

 

[Invictus]

@Joga Bonito @Theon
@Šjor Bepo @Gio
@Physiocrat
@Edgar Allan Pillow
@Fortitude
@BIG DUNK
@SirScholes
@Michaelf7777777

Please go through post #531 and prepare accordingly.

 

[Invictus]

@Zlatan 7
@harms
@Pat_Mustard @Jim Beam
@Indnyc
@Enigma_87
@Himannv
@King Kendrick
@GodShaveTheQueen

Please go through post #531 and prepare accordingly.