The vaccines | vaxxed boosted unvaxxed? New poll

How's your immunity looking? Had covid - vote twice - vax status and then again for infection status

  • Vaxxed but no booster

  • Boostered

  • Still waiting in queue for first vaccine dose

  • Won't get vaxxed (unless I have to for travel/work etc)

  • Past infection with covid + I've been vaccinated

  • Past infection with covid - I've not been vaccinated

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Had mine (AZ) today. The efficiency of the vaccine centre was amazing and the staff all really welcoming

I took paracetamol after and I'll have some before bed. Apparently one of the side effects is headaches, and I'm prone to those at the best of times so I'll probably get one. Feeling quite tired but not sure if vaccine related
 
TheReligion said:
I think the issue is you come across very condescending about it all and keen to try and get 'one up' on the UK.

Not sure why.
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I think you invent things in your head. I do not know why.

Edit: also. I do not care/have an agenda with the UK on anything. My attitude towards UK in general is only positive, actually. I am neither on of those blaming the UK for the EU's failings in procuring them. I just write my thoughts as additions to or responses to others on this forum. What I do care about is other users trying to attribute me me a supposed agenda or twist my intentions of writing.

I will leave it at this.
 
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Applied to be part of a civid vaccination trial today. No idea which vaccine or which phase or even if my age will disqualify me.

Suprised if it is a later stage vaccine trial as I assume they would pick places ravaged by covid for those.

Sydney Uni which is just up the road is developing a needle free DNA based vaccine so maybe it is that one?

https://7news.com.au/sunrise/on-the...trial-set-to-start-in-australia-c-1330339.amp
 
With so much of the population being vaccinated with the AZ jab which seemingly doesn’t protect against the SA variant, doesn’t that create an issue for further waves?
 
zing said:
With so much of the population being vaccinated with the AZ jab which seemingly doesn’t protect against the SA variant, doesn’t that create an issue for further waves?
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It depends
NEJM addressed this recently - https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2102214?query=featured_home
More layman friendly version of above - https://www.jwatch.org/na53369/2021/03/18/how-well-does-oxford-astrazeneca-vaccine-stand-against

Study from AZ on south african variant shows that while it's not great at preventing inoculated people from getting mild-to-moderate covid, jury is out on whether it prevents severe covid (hospitalisation, death). We know most of our vaccines show T cell responses to these strains though which is probably a good thing.

I think what will happen is aggressive monitoring of variant strains - isolation for travellers from areas where that strain is known, genomics, contact tracing until we see updated versions of AZ and the mRNAs come out with annual "booster" type vaccines to address the new strains.
 
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United Hobbit said:
Had mine (AZ) today. The efficiency of the vaccine centre was amazing and the staff all really welcoming

I took paracetamol after and I'll have some before bed. Apparently one of the side effects is headaches, and I'm prone to those at the best of times so I'll probably get one. Feeling quite tired but not sure if vaccine related
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Had mine yesterday evening and felt the same. Also felt so cold at night (shivering)
Have had a headache on and off and dry throat too

Hopefully should feel better by evening
 
Sylar said:
Had mine yesterday evening and felt the same. Also felt so cold at night (shivering)
Have had a headache on and off and dry throat too

Hopefully should feel better by evening
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Had Mine at at 2:30 ish yesterday, took paracetamol around 3pm when I got home, also took some before bed around half 10, felt quite drowsy.

Woke up about 7:30, took some more paracetamol, legs felt a bit odd walking down the stairs bit headachy

Went back to bed, allowed myself an undisturbed lie in (surprisingly the cats cooperated with this!) Just woken up and feel OK though muscles feel a bit twitchy.

My boyfriend (both had them yesterday) apparently feels "terrible" but is still going to go round his parents and move loads of heavy boxes.....

I had the flu jab nov/Dec time and had a banging headache for a couple of days after, wonder if this is why I'm not overly reacting to this?

I'm in the office tomorrow, hope symptoms aren't delayed until then...
 
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Sore/sensitive arm for a day.

Swollen glands 2 days later which lasted a other day or 2.

Feel grand now and second shot mid May. Bring it.
 
Wolverine said:
It depends
NEJM addressed this recently - https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2102214?query=featured_home
More layman friendly version of above - https://www.jwatch.org/na53369/2021/03/18/how-well-does-oxford-astrazeneca-vaccine-stand-against

Study from AZ on south african variant shows that while it's not great at preventing inoculated people from getting mild-to-moderate covid, jury is out on whether it prevents severe covid (hospitalisation, death). We know most of our vaccines show T cell responses to these strains though which is probably a good thing.

I think what will happen is aggressive monitoring of variant strains - isolation for travellers from areas where that strain is known, genomics, contact tracing until we see updated versions of AZ and the mRNAs come out with annual "booster" type vaccines to address the new strains.
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Big problem is only a few countries are actually testing as far as I’m aware. I read somewhere (sorry can’t find the source) that the SA strain is in 27 countries as far as they can tell. My guess is it’s in far more than that, and it’ll just be a case of a second round of vaccines for everyone before anyone goes back to normal.
 
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Big problem is only a few countries are actually testing as far as I’m aware. I read somewhere (sorry can’t find the source) that the SA strain is in 27 countries as far as they can tell. My guess is it’s in far more than that, and it’ll just be a case of a second round of vaccines for everyone before anyone goes back to normal.
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Yea. I’m thinking that it must already be there everywhere, just not being tested for rigorously. It’s been around for a long time now.
 
United Hobbit said:
Had Mine at at 2:30 ish yesterday, took paracetamol around 3pm when I got home, also took some before bed around half 10, felt quite drowsy.

Woke up about 7:30, took some more paracetamol, legs felt a bit odd walking down the stairs bit headachy

Went back to bed, allowed myself an undisturbed lie in (surprisingly the cats cooperated with this!) Just woken up and feel OK though muscles feel a bit twitchy.

My boyfriend (both had them yesterday) apparently feels "terrible" but is still going to go round his parents and move loads of heavy boxes.....

I had the flu jab nov/Dec time and had a banging headache for a couple of days after, wonder if this is why I'm not overly reacting to this?

I'm in the office tomorrow, hope symptoms aren't delayed until then...
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Had to read the line several times thinking, both of your bfs had it
Then thought you meant your bf had both doses which makes no sense. So it finally clicked both you and he had it, which makes more sense as me and my gf both had it yesterday too
 
Sylar said:
Had to read the line several times thinking, both of your bfs had it
Then thought you meant your bf had both doses which makes no sense. So it finally clicked both you and he had it, which makes more sense as me and my gf both had it yesterday too
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Yes sorry meant we both had our first doses yesterday I feel mostly OK bit clammy, he feels flu like, how about you and your gf?

I'd be interested if those who had the flu jab suffer less as I did have it, but he didn't yet got a banging headache for 2 days after the flu jab
 
For any of you based in London, how is the vaccination process and who all are eligible for a jab? My brother works in London and he's 35 so would he come into a category that can get a shot anytime soon or is it still months? With daily records being set and half the adult population in the UK vaccinated, it can't be far away, no?
 
wr8_utd said:
For any of you based in London, how is the vaccination process and who all are eligible for a jab? My brother works in London and he's 35 so would he come into a category that can get a shot anytime soon or is it still months? With daily records being set and half the adult population in the UK vaccinated, it can't be far away, no?
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Not that predictable right now. They're focused on over 50s, health and social care workers, risk groups (and their formal/informal carers) + lots of second doses. That will probably take most of their March/April supplies.

They thought they could keep the first jab rate up despite the number of second jabs they were doing - and they've got the vaccinating capacity to do it. But they haven't got some of the vaccine supplies they were hoping for. I'd guess May for your brother, but I think it's all about vaccine deliveries now.
 
wr8_utd said:
For any of you based in London, how is the vaccination process and who all are eligible for a jab? My brother works in London and he's 35 so would he come into a category that can get a shot anytime soon or is it still months? With daily records being set and half the adult population in the UK vaccinated, it can't be far away, no?
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Does he have an underlying health condition listed here? If so, then he'll be in group 6. If not, then I would suggest he'll be around May time.
 
jojojo said:
Not that predictable right now. They're focused on over 50s, health and social care workers, risk groups (and their formal/informal carers) + lots of second doses. That will probably take most of their March/April supplies.

They thought they could keep the first jab rate up despite the number of second jabs they were doing - and they've got the vaccinating capacity to do it. But they haven't got some of the vaccine supplies they were hoping for. I'd guess May for your brother, but I think it's all about vaccine deliveries now.
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Does he have an underlying health condition listed here? If so, then he'll be in group 6. If not, then I would suggest he'll be around May time.
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Thanks, guys :)
There's no underlying health conditions so looks like it'll be May. Which is fairly quick anyway.
 
golden_blunder said:
My brother (USA based) got his second Pfizer yesterday. So happy for him.
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Good to know, how long do you guys in generally have to wait for 2nd dose?

I've already got an appointment for 3 weeks from tomorrow for the 2nd one.
 
Cal? said:
Good to know, how long do you guys in generally have to wait for 2nd dose?

I've already got an appointment for 3 weeks from tomorrow for the 2nd one.
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Everyone but the UK is following the 3 week waiting period. In the UK it's up to 12 weeks
 
Cal? said:
Good to know, how long do you guys in generally have to wait for 2nd dose?

I've already got an appointment for 3 weeks from tomorrow for the 2nd one.
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Well, I’m in Ireland, cocooning due to doctors orders and still haven’t seen a first appointment. So.. dunno.

my brother got done in America. Slightly cheated. Told the pharmacy he was a carer for his mother in law. He could be but he’s not. They don’t do any great checks. He got his second yesterday which was about 3-4 weeks or so after the first. Pfizer.
 
golden_blunder said:
Well, I’m in Ireland, cocooning due to doctors orders and still haven’t seen a first appointment. So.. dunno.

my brother got done in America. Slightly cheated. Told the pharmacy he was a carer for his mother in law. He could be but he’s not. They don’t do any great checks. He got his second yesterday which was about 3-4 weeks or so after the first. Pfizer.
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Yeah, it’s 3 weeks for Pfizer and 4 weeks for moderna.
I might have told a little pork pie too, said I was a smoker. Which used to be true....
 
Skills said:
Everyone but the UK is following the 3 week waiting period. In the UK it's up to 12 weeks
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Here in HK the response isn't great at all to vaccines, so basically anyone who wants one can have one now.
golden_blunder said:
Well, I’m in Ireland, cocooning due to doctors orders and still haven’t seen a first appointment. So.. dunno.

my brother got done in America. Slightly cheated. Told the pharmacy he was a carer for his mother in law. He could be but he’s not. They don’t do any great checks. He got his second yesterday which was about 3-4 weeks or so after the first. Pfizer.
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Same here in HK, the supposed priority group is opened to 30 and above, and there are so many other categories like restaurant, retail stores etc and they basically don't check.
 
@jojojo

Do you know anything about this place?

https://www.vmicuk.com/about-us

Daily Mail reckon that it’s opening soon and will make us independent of other nations for vaccine manufacturing. They didn’t say when exactly it will be producing vaccines so I’m thinking it’s not going to be that soon. I’m wondering if it will actually make us vaccine manufacturing independent ?
 
BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
Just had my vaccination (AZ), fingers crossed after reading this thread :)

In UK, can't comment on other countries but the efficiency of the centre was amazing. Queued outside 30 seconds, in to one of several people registering, then into hall where several people doing vaccinations, sleeve up, done, out (to sit in car 10 minutes).

Doubt I was inside 3 minutes in total.
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Congrats. Hope you are well :)
 
Ecstatic said:
Congrats. Hope you are well :)
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Je vais bien merci. Comment allez-vous?

That's my schoolboy French over :)

Nice to hear from you

Glad to get vaccination done, been working at home one year last week which was a miserable milestone - been depressing, working day in day out in one room of the house. So getting a call out of the blue to come in was a well needed boost.

How's life.. work, family, country?

Looking forward to May now. Season over (top.4 whoopy shit), pubs open, better weather, birthday. Hopefully the start of some normality.

Hope all ok your end (or as good as it can be).
 
I haven't looked into the details - is the fatal clotting happening after the first or second shot (or both)? I am very concerned about my mother's sudden bruise after the first shot, but she and her doctor don't seem to be.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
@jojojo

Do you know anything about this place?

https://www.vmicuk.com/about-us

Daily Mail reckon that it’s opening soon and will make us independent of other nations for vaccine manufacturing. They didn’t say when exactly it will be producing vaccines so I’m thinking it’s not going to be that soon. I’m wondering if it will actually make us vaccine manufacturing independent ?
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VMIC got its funding approval in 2019, with an intention of being ready to manufacture (from clinical trial quantity through to production quantity) a couple of different vaccine types. Basically an acknowledgment that there was no spare capacity in the vaccine production plants and a pooled resource for trials work was important as there's not (normally) much money in the vaccine business. It also got some funding as a a result of one of those NHS pandemic preparedness reviews that identified the lack of surge capacity as an issue.

It was expected to come online sometime in 2022, but got some serious fasttrack funding due to covid. They recruited staff early and bought the manufacturing kit before they had premises and they started building the labs and the factory unit before they had formal planning consent from the local authority for example.

I've read their kit and their new staff have been making AZ in borrowed premises, for the last few months, pending completion of their own permanent buildings. So they're kind of starting now really.
 
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I haven't looked into the details - is the fatal clotting happening after the first or second shot (or both)? I am very concerned about my mother's sudden bruise after the first shot, but she and her doctor don't seem to be.
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Dunno if you saw my previous response but a sudden large bruise at the injection site wouldn’t worry me at all. It’s easy enough to nick a blood vessel giving the elderly (or middle-aged) an IM injection. Timing is important too. The coagulopathy is immune mediated, so will take a while to kick in. A punctured blood vessel will give a big old bruise in < 24 hours.
 
Had Moderna shot #1 yesterday. A bit of a sore arm, but went on a 5 mile hike immediately after and felt fine throughout. Feel fine today, little residual soreness but only if I go poking the injection site.
As I understand it though, it’s the 2nd one that gets you.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Dunno if you saw my previous response but a sudden large bruise at the injection site wouldn’t worry me at all. It’s easy enough to nick a blood vessel giving the elderly (or middle-aged) an IM injection. Timing is important too. The coagulopathy is immune mediated, so will take a while to kick in. A punctured blood vessel will give a big old bruise in < 24 hours.
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thanks, i'll ask about timing.
 
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