Originally posted by arnie sidebottom:
<strong>Feasting on inept German bowling again, Dans ?
Congrats to Surrey on 20/20 success btw. Southern twats.
Hehe - more than adequate Pakistani bowling actually Arnold
As for Surrey, well what can you say - head and shoulders above all other counties once again.
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Originally posted by Melbourne Red:
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If I may be pedantic for a minute, he saved his place with a ton against England during the '97 Ashes series. He didn't make that 334 until much later in fact.
Yeah that was for his first life..He went through more worse patch before his scored his 334* against Pakistan?
MR Are you an Aussie?
Dont watch as much cricket as i used too..
i loved it in the 80's when i was growing up, used to be quite handy myself before i discovered the joys of beer etc
In no particular order, the players i used to enjoy watching
Botham
Gower
Gooch (fantastic opener!)
Alec Stewart
Jack Russell (my favourite wicket keeper)
G Foster
G Dilley
Craig McDermott
Alan Lamb
Alan Border
Neill Fairbrother
Hick (not a great test player but i loved the way he attacked the ball at County level)
Tufnell
Emburey
Gladstone 'no neck' Small
Devon Malcolm
those were the days
i loved it in the 80's when i was growing up, used to be quite handy myself before i discovered the joys of beer etc
In no particular order, the players i used to enjoy watching
Botham
Gower
Gooch (fantastic opener!)
Alec Stewart
Jack Russell (my favourite wicket keeper)
G Foster
G Dilley
Craig McDermott
Alan Lamb
Alan Border
Neill Fairbrother
Hick (not a great test player but i loved the way he attacked the ball at County level)
Tufnell
Emburey
Gladstone 'no neck' Small
Devon Malcolm
those were the days
Mark Taylor scored one of the worst Hundreds I've ever seen vs SA a few years ago (1997?) Dropped 5 times and most of his runs from edges to third man.
VVS Laxman too. A hundred with abot 10 fours edged through and over the slips.
Any other contenders?
VVS Laxman too. A hundred with abot 10 fours edged through and over the slips.
Any other contenders?
Originally posted by golden_blunder:
<strong>Dont watch as much cricket as i used too..
i loved it in the 80's when i was growing up, used to be quite handy myself before i discovered the joys of beer etc
those were the days
Cricket fans are impressed by the quality of cricket being played now...particularly in the last ten years.
Originally posted by golden_blunder:
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on the occassions i have watched it the quality has been good. Sadly though there are very little 'characters' left in the game</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yes there are no Boycotts,Botham's and David Lloyd
Originally posted by vijay_vr:
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Yeah that was for his first life..He went through more worse patch before his scored his 334* against Pakistan?
MR Are you an Aussie?
He went twelve months without a half century before that ton against England mate. I very much doubt that he had a worse run than that before the 334*
And I'm Bangladeshi.
Kallis' dad died this morning of Lung Cancer. Commiserations to Jacques and his sister. RIP Henry Kallis.
Glad we aren't playing the Aussies, God knows how they would sledged JK.
Glad we aren't playing the Aussies, God knows how they would sledged JK.
RIP
Damn I hate it when Gibbs throws his wicket away.
Nothing to see here. Back in two weeks.
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Hussain resigns as England captain.
Speculation about his future has been enormous since he resumed captaincy of the Test side. The debacle of the first day, his own performance in the first innings and Vaughan's knock only hastened the announcement.
Guess one more disappointment and he would have been labelled a lame duck skipper so he's decided to roll the dice and prove his worth as a batsman.
I still think it's too soon to be lumbering Vaughan with captaincy. Although Atherton reckons that if you've got a guy who is captaincy material and can hold his place in 1 day and 5 day games, then he's the logical choice to skipper both teams rather than chop and change.
Any views ?
Speculation about his future has been enormous since he resumed captaincy of the Test side. The debacle of the first day, his own performance in the first innings and Vaughan's knock only hastened the announcement.
Guess one more disappointment and he would have been labelled a lame duck skipper so he's decided to roll the dice and prove his worth as a batsman.
I still think it's too soon to be lumbering Vaughan with captaincy. Although Atherton reckons that if you've got a guy who is captaincy material and can hold his place in 1 day and 5 day games, then he's the logical choice to skipper both teams rather than chop and change.
Any views ?
Nasser played stupid mind games with Smith and lost, losing all credibility in the process.
South Africa won the toss and decided to field
First Innings
England
63 for 2 (17.4 overs) In Progress
South Africa
Yet To Bat
Second Innings
England Innings
Batsman Runs Balls 4s 6s
M E Trescothick b M Ntini 6 17 1 0
M P Vaughan not out 25 52 2 0
M A Butcher c A J Hall b S M Pollock 19 17 4 0
N Hussain not out 9 22 0 0
Extras 1b 1lb 0w 2nb 4
Total 17.4 overs (for 2 wickets) 63
Bowler O M R W Fall of wickets:
S M Pollock 9.0 4 10 1 1-11 [ M E Trescothick, 30 mins]
M Ntini 6.0 1 41 1 2-35 [ M A Butcher, 17 mins]
D Pretorius 2.4 0 10 0
Umpires: S A Bucknor, D B Hair
England
M P Vaughan (capt), A J Stewart (wkt), M E Trescothick, M A Butcher, N Hussain, A McGrath, A Flintoff, A F Giles, D Gough, S J Harmison, J M Anderson
South Africa
G C Smith (capt), M V Boucher (wkt), H H Gibbs, G Kirsten, H H Dippenaar, J A Rudolph, A J Hall, S M Pollock, P R Adams, D Pretorius, M Ntini
Nassa got a standing ovation when he came to the crease.
First Innings
England
63 for 2 (17.4 overs) In Progress
South Africa
Yet To Bat
Second Innings
England Innings
Batsman Runs Balls 4s 6s
M E Trescothick b M Ntini 6 17 1 0
M P Vaughan not out 25 52 2 0
M A Butcher c A J Hall b S M Pollock 19 17 4 0
N Hussain not out 9 22 0 0
Extras 1b 1lb 0w 2nb 4
Total 17.4 overs (for 2 wickets) 63
Bowler O M R W Fall of wickets:
S M Pollock 9.0 4 10 1 1-11 [ M E Trescothick, 30 mins]
M Ntini 6.0 1 41 1 2-35 [ M A Butcher, 17 mins]
D Pretorius 2.4 0 10 0
Umpires: S A Bucknor, D B Hair
England
M P Vaughan (capt), A J Stewart (wkt), M E Trescothick, M A Butcher, N Hussain, A McGrath, A Flintoff, A F Giles, D Gough, S J Harmison, J M Anderson
South Africa
G C Smith (capt), M V Boucher (wkt), H H Gibbs, G Kirsten, H H Dippenaar, J A Rudolph, A J Hall, S M Pollock, P R Adams, D Pretorius, M Ntini
Nassa got a standing ovation when he came to the crease.
shit, 85 for 5...
sack the captain id say!
sack the captain id say!
And I thought the last test started embarrasingly... we won't get out of this one...
All done for 173 - at least Goughie and Anderson made a stand - 34 and 21 respectively - the 1st and 3rd highest scores of the bloody innings
All done for 173 - at least Goughie and Anderson made a stand - 34 and 21 respectively - the 1st and 3rd highest scores of the bloody innings
Well at least England got a wicket.
100 up for the boy wonder
Originally posted by Snoeker:
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Is that the trap where we get a 300 run first innings lead (touch wood)?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Ah ha ha ha ha! I love it when a plan comes together - watch & learn...
Tee hee - it's all coming together now. I knew Vaughan's captaincy would herald a new era of English cricketing glory! <img src="graemlins/wenger.gif" border="0" alt="[Wenger]" />
Why does the England team NEVER perform well in a Test Match at Lords ?
Originally posted by Rams:
<strong>shit, 85 for 5...
sack the captain id say!
Who? Roy Keane <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
Vijay - I don't think Vaughan has captained the side any better than Hussain. We've missed vital chances and bowled poorly in both tests. You can't blame the captain for that.
And full credit should go to Graeme Smith (just out for 259 as I type) who has been nothing short of sensational.
Anderson and Harmison are still very raw so there's a big onus on Gough / Giles to take wickets and Flintoff to tie up one end while they are rested. The fielders have a big role to play in creating the necessary pressure - SA have batted in perfect conditions - and they have fallen short.
Hussain deserves a lot of credit for the way he led the team on the sub-continent. But he's clearly a tired man now. He's a proud man so it was therefore surprising to me that he bailed out after the first test. He must be completely pissed off and should be given a rest from international cricket. I guess this will happen, and Thorpe will return from his own personal 'exile'.
Of course the same sections of the English press that got the Vaughan captaincy bandwagon going - many of them ex-players - will be baying for his blood by the end of the season if his own form suffers.
Which was my point at the start of this thread...we need Vaughan out in the middle making runs, not getting bogged down in media issues and team affairs.
And full credit should go to Graeme Smith (just out for 259 as I type) who has been nothing short of sensational.
Anderson and Harmison are still very raw so there's a big onus on Gough / Giles to take wickets and Flintoff to tie up one end while they are rested. The fielders have a big role to play in creating the necessary pressure - SA have batted in perfect conditions - and they have fallen short.
Hussain deserves a lot of credit for the way he led the team on the sub-continent. But he's clearly a tired man now. He's a proud man so it was therefore surprising to me that he bailed out after the first test. He must be completely pissed off and should be given a rest from international cricket. I guess this will happen, and Thorpe will return from his own personal 'exile'.
Of course the same sections of the English press that got the Vaughan captaincy bandwagon going - many of them ex-players - will be baying for his blood by the end of the season if his own form suffers.
Which was my point at the start of this thread...we need Vaughan out in the middle making runs, not getting bogged down in media issues and team affairs.
You have a point arnie. Instead of resigning as the ODI captain Hussain should've taken a break from international cricket to recharge his batteries and should've made a come back after this current SA series.But losing Hussain is a captain is a big loss for England.I can still remember Vaughan's first test innings against South Africa (i might be wrong) where he stood nervously on the crease without making an attempt to score a single run and got the stick for that. From there he has blossomed in to a great batsman confident in this approach complimented by his sound technique. As a captain these media issues and affairs are part and parcel of the game and I think he has the right temperament to deliver. When Steve Waugh was appointed as the captain Chappells, Benaud and Co completely dismissed him. Steve then went on to become the greatest captain ever. I hope Vaughan does the same.
Originally posted by Snoeker:
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The brilliance of the English tactics astounds me. Bowl us to a record score and then try and hit your way out of trouble. Why didn't we think of that? Sack the captain! <img src="graemlins/wenger.gif" border="0" alt="[Wenger]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Vaughan just set out to play his natural game. Annoying...especially as it was an awful shot and he'd been dropped by Pollock 2 balls previously playing the same one...but his recent test record speaks for itself and is good enough for me.
It's the bowling and fielding that's cost us this game, not Vaughan. Unfortunately he's about the only batsmen we've got who is capable of batting for more than 2 sessions so I expect the game to be finished by today.
Vijay - nice post...hope the comparisons with Waugh are at least partly realised !
186-3. Butcher - who might have hung around for a bit - out for 70.
I reckon Nass will dig in now just to prove his critics wrong, but one end is now open so this shouldn't last much longer.
I reckon Nass will dig in now just to prove his critics wrong, but one end is now open so this shouldn't last much longer.
Flintoff = Hick? <img src="graemlins/wenger.gif" border="0" alt="[Wenger]" />
Happy Vaughan speaks
New England captain Michael Vaughan exchanged some frank words with his players after the one-sided defeat to South Africa in the second test at Lord's on Sunday.
"I have given a talk in the dressing room that was pretty down to the bone, pretty honest, and told them a few facts which I felt they needed to know and which will give them a gee-up," Vaughan told a news conference after the innings and 92-run defeat.
"I don't think we were as hungry as them. I can't answer why. It's something that needs to be addressed."
Vaughan, made captain just days before the game after Nasser Hussain's shock decision to quit, made it clear that he was not beyond blame himself.
"To get hammered in your first test match as captain, to play two bad shots, it will be a huge character test for myself.
"I know (as captain) you have to rock the boat at bit a few times and upset a few players."
Vaughan is not an England selector but said he would be thinking about a team which he thought could beat South Africa at Trent Bridge before making suggestions. "That's all the input I can give," he said.
DIFFICULT DEBUT
He accepted his debut as skipper had not begun in perfect circumstances following Hussain's resignation after the drawn first test.
"It was difficult, everyone was aware of that. If somebody resigns on Monday and somebody takes over for Thursday it's never the easier route. I had one day in the job and the game started.
"I don't think we won one session. Not once did we put them under pressure. All in all, it was a pretty poor performance."
Vaughan said he was not aware of any retirement plans among his team, following media speculation that veteran quick bowler Darren Gough could retire after struggling in his first two tests back after a year of injuries.
"He's a little bit down, I would be lying if I said otherwise, but so are the other bowlers," he added.
Vaughan, however, had words of praise for all rounder Andrew Flintoff, who he said had been "outstanding" as a bowler before scoring his run-a-ball 142 in a losing cause.
"He chose the right ball to hit. He has that many shots and is that powerful. Even his defensive shots go for four."
New England captain Michael Vaughan exchanged some frank words with his players after the one-sided defeat to South Africa in the second test at Lord's on Sunday.
"I have given a talk in the dressing room that was pretty down to the bone, pretty honest, and told them a few facts which I felt they needed to know and which will give them a gee-up," Vaughan told a news conference after the innings and 92-run defeat.
"I don't think we were as hungry as them. I can't answer why. It's something that needs to be addressed."
Vaughan, made captain just days before the game after Nasser Hussain's shock decision to quit, made it clear that he was not beyond blame himself.
"To get hammered in your first test match as captain, to play two bad shots, it will be a huge character test for myself.
"I know (as captain) you have to rock the boat at bit a few times and upset a few players."
Vaughan is not an England selector but said he would be thinking about a team which he thought could beat South Africa at Trent Bridge before making suggestions. "That's all the input I can give," he said.
DIFFICULT DEBUT
He accepted his debut as skipper had not begun in perfect circumstances following Hussain's resignation after the drawn first test.
"It was difficult, everyone was aware of that. If somebody resigns on Monday and somebody takes over for Thursday it's never the easier route. I had one day in the job and the game started.
"I don't think we won one session. Not once did we put them under pressure. All in all, it was a pretty poor performance."
Vaughan said he was not aware of any retirement plans among his team, following media speculation that veteran quick bowler Darren Gough could retire after struggling in his first two tests back after a year of injuries.
"He's a little bit down, I would be lying if I said otherwise, but so are the other bowlers," he added.
Vaughan, however, had words of praise for all rounder Andrew Flintoff, who he said had been "outstanding" as a bowler before scoring his run-a-ball 142 in a losing cause.
"He chose the right ball to hit. He has that many shots and is that powerful. Even his defensive shots go for four."
Why do England always get hammered at Lords? Home of cricket, innit?