We need 3 players from that era though, so with that in mind, he's arguably the best available from that time frame.
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We need 3 players from that era though, so with that in mind, he's arguably the best available from that time frame.
I know, I get the rationale for it, I just think that most (not all) people will largely gloss over those players
Never been the case.. Puskas has always gotten his fair due on here.
Disagree there. Plenty of footage of him and he's one of the all time greats.. with the draft restrictions as it is he is a great pick.
While that is true, one of the points of these drafts is to educate people on players who deserve to be remembered. Also a big amount of votes comes from the people who participate/follow the drafts as regulars.
"If I say Hungary, I say Puskas," Karpati went on. "If you go to Venezuela or Naples or Australia and you say Hungary, people would say Puskas. That says it all."
Puskas is one of the most famous names from that era and is (rightly so) very highly rated here even by "scanvoters", though most of them are actually reading all the information that is available for them in the threads.
So no, Puskas is one of the best picks in the first round, especially considering the quota
Puskas is one of the most famous names from that era and is (rightly so) very highly rated here even by "scanvoters", though most of them are actually reading all the information that is available for them in the threads.
So no, Puskas is one of the best picks in the first round, especially considering the quota
Puskas played a huge role in two drafts in the last 6 months and always got his fair due. He together with Eusebio practically carried my team full of 50's and 60's players (many of them really unknown) to a semifinal in the manager draft against modern players. I never had the impression he's underrated at all, quite the opposite.
So, you think Puskas is overrated?
No. He meant, he is generally rated well around here.
Could be wrong here but didn't he primarily play a CB for the 88 Netherlands team and in a back 3 during the 92 version? Don't think he played as a CM in the Euros but he was still his usual imperious self at the back though.
Let's not get on the wrong foot here. Sparky assume we would not rate Puskas here and we have corrected that perception. End of.
Rijkaard is always a good pick.
He did play centre half in '88 though as far as I'm aware so it'll be interesting to see how that develops.
He did play centre half in '88 though as far as I'm aware so it'll be interesting to see how that develops.
@Theon , When are you picking bro? 
@Theon , When are you picking bro?
Literally only logged on here five minutes ago - I'll pick soon, weighing up a few options
Literally only logged on here five minutes ago - I'll pick soon, weighing up a few options
Take your time mate. No need to hurry, there is no time limit now anyway.
couldn't be more wrong.
In 88 I do know he played as a centre back
http://en.archive.uefa.com/competit...season=1988/round=212/match=14/report=lu.html
http://en.archive.uefa.com/competit...season=1988/round=212/match=15/report=lu.html
http://en.archive.uefa.com/competit...season=1988/round=212/match=18/report=lu.html
http://en.archive.uefa.com/competit...season=1988/round=209/match=20/report=lu.html
Better illustrated by this link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_1988_Final
In the 92 I'm not so sure as I didn't really follow that so extensively but I do think it was in a back 3 of sorts (as a sweeper maybe?)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_1992_Group_2#Netherlands_vs_Scotland
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_1992_Group_2#Netherlands_vs_CIS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_1992_Group_2#Netherlands_vs_Germany
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_1992_knockout_stage#Netherlands_vs_Denmark
Either way, Rijkaard at CB was a beast too.
From the footage I have seen of 92.. he is not really in defence, he is mostly in midfield - so it is either as a sweeper with freedom to roam or as a DM. Either way its Rijkaard .. so even as a CB you're getting GOAT quality in that role.
Aye, no doubt.
Yeah Raees, you are right he did play more as a CB.
On Rijkaard he was mostly in defence in 1988 and mostly in midfield in 1992. But probably the most striking feature was how he moved between the two as per the tactical requirements of and within each game. When they turn over Germany in the group stages, it's clear he's working in midfield. Then late on he is shifted back to defence (or shifts himself - you never know with these Dutchies) to deal with their more direct threat. @Joga Bonito I don't think those wikilinks for '92 are an accurate description of Holland' formation. My memory of his role in that tournament is of him influencing the game from one end of the park to the other.
Won't get any complaints if (when) he's utilized in midfield.
1. crappycraperson - 1. Platini
2. Edgar Allan Pillow & MJJ & coolredwine - 1. Puskas
3. Paolo Di Canio - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo
4. The Stain - 1. Zidane
5. Skizzo & Pat_Mustard - 1. Van Basten
6. Stobzilla 1. Beckenbauer
7. Joga Bonito 1. Maldini
8. harms 1. Dragan Džajić
9. Aldo 1. Xavi
10. Raees & Gio 1. Frank Rijkaard
11. Theon & NM 1. Matthäus
12. The Red Viper 1.
13. big red123 1.
14. Šjor Bepo & VivaJanuzaj 1.
15. ctp 1.
16. PedroMendez 1.
@The Red Viper
2. Edgar Allan Pillow & MJJ & coolredwine - 1. Puskas
3. Paolo Di Canio - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo
4. The Stain - 1. Zidane
5. Skizzo & Pat_Mustard - 1. Van Basten
6. Stobzilla 1. Beckenbauer
7. Joga Bonito 1. Maldini
8. harms 1. Dragan Džajić
9. Aldo 1. Xavi
10. Raees & Gio 1. Frank Rijkaard
11. Theon & NM 1. Matthäus
12. The Red Viper 1.
13. big red123 1.
14. Šjor Bepo & VivaJanuzaj 1.
15. ctp 1.
16. PedroMendez 1.
@The Red Viper
Pillow hates you.
@Theon bottled it, and didn't go for the player we discussed. But based off the reaction, I'm glad he did.
GERD MÜLLER
1. crappycraperson - 1. Platini
2. Edgar Allan Pillow & MJJ & coolredwine - 1. Puskás
3. Paolo Di Canio - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo
4. The Stain - 1. Zidane
5. Skizzo & Pat_Mustard - 1. Van Basten
6. Stobzilla 1. Beckenbauer
7. Joga Bonito 1. Maldini
8. harms 1. Dragan Džajić
9. Aldo 1. Xavi
10. Raees & Gio 1. Frank Rijkaard
11. Theon & NM 1. Matthäus
12. The Red Viper 1. Gerd Müller
13. big red123 1.
14. Šjor Bepo & VivaJanuzaj 1.
15. ctp 1.
16. PedroMendez 1.
2. Edgar Allan Pillow & MJJ & coolredwine - 1. Puskás
3. Paolo Di Canio - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo
4. The Stain - 1. Zidane
5. Skizzo & Pat_Mustard - 1. Van Basten
6. Stobzilla 1. Beckenbauer
7. Joga Bonito 1. Maldini
8. harms 1. Dragan Džajić
9. Aldo 1. Xavi
10. Raees & Gio 1. Frank Rijkaard
11. Theon & NM 1. Matthäus
12. The Red Viper 1. Gerd Müller
13. big red123 1.
14. Šjor Bepo & VivaJanuzaj 1.
15. ctp 1.
16. PedroMendez 1.
@Big red123 , Your Turn!
GERD MÜLLER
Nice pick. Strongly considered him myself.
Muller is due a good draft tournament.
I do think I should have lost the quarterfinal to be honest
.i still dont have a clue who to pick
He had only 1 game that Netherlands lost.. Let's see how voters judge him. Great piick though. Have to love Cruyff
Are you going to sound out your disappointment every time a GOAT is taken?
. Come on, there was no way Maldini and Matthäus were going to be available for your second pick which is 28 picks away from your first pick. You make is sound like you just missed them by one or two picks. If this is a ploy to annoy the draft master Balu, then by all means go for it, for the drama . Fair enough and I'll take your word for it. Tbh I'd rather people voice out their concerns about players positions etc in the main thread itself and get it sorted out instead of waiting for the matches to happen and then pinpointing them out which would be quite harsh imo, as the managers can't do anything about it. Btw I'm not a fan of that rule myself but do appreciate its purpose.
Don't think that changes his ability at the time.
i absolutely love Cruyff but this is an awful pick....
it doesnt but we are judging players based on tournaments not on the time when the tournament was played.