The UEFA Euro Fantasy Draft

[The Red Viper]

Desailly is a great pick. Surprised no one else went for him till now. I really played with the idea of having Desailly in the team but I needed one of the old players for the minimum three players criteria!

 

[The Red Viper]

1. crappycraperson - 1. Platini 2. Figo 3. Tigana
2. Edgar Allan Pillow & MJJ & coolredwine - 1. Puskás 2. Masopust 3. Gullit
3. Paolo Di Canio - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Blanc 3. Lev Yashin
4. The Stain - 1. Zidane 2. Czibor 3. Amancio
5. Skizzo & Pat_Mustard - 1. van Basten 2. Netzer 3. Monti
6. Stobzilla - 1. Beckenbauer 2. B.Charlton 3. Bican
7. Joga Bonito - 1. Maldini 2. B.Moore 3. Sindelar
8. harms - 1. Dragan Džajić 2. Sárosi 3. Schuster
9. Aldo - 1. Xavi 2. Iniesta 3. Nedved
10. Raees & Gio - 1. Rijkaard 2. Facchetti 3. Kohler
11. Theon & NM - 1. Matthäus 2. Bozsik 3. Davids 4. Desailly
12. The Red Viper - 1. Gerd Müller 2. Sammer 3. Vieira 4. Shesternyov
13. big red123 - 1. Cruyff 2. Baresi 3. Stoichkov 4. Michael Laudrup
14. Šjor Bepo & Physiocrat - 1. Luis Suarez 2. Nesta 3. Hidegkuti 4. Ivanov
15. ctp - 1. Rummenigge 2. Scirea 3. Ocwirk 4. Mazzola
16. PedroMendez - 1. Meazza 2. Thuram 3. Schmeichel 4. Netto

 

[The Red Viper]

@Raees and @Gio , Once you have made your pick, tag me. I have Aldo's pick!

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

That's true. But it came down to the fact I rate Kohler higher as a centre-half and in 1992 he was at his absolute peak. Not that Desailly isn't a great pick, especially in the fourth round, and has two solid Euros to back it up.

Also with Kohler you can partner him with anyone and he makes them stronger whereas Desailly with a weak partner doesn't give off that same vibe of security at the back.

I know. Kohler is the better CB, but the trade off down to Desailly is not that big, esp since we are only considering Euro's. So thought it would be worth a gamble.

 

[Big red123]

God this is slow. We should have done it without the AM's

 

[Gio]

Thierry Henry

Electric at Euro 2000 where he won 3 man-of-the-match awards in just 6 games.

1. crappycraperson - 1. Platini 2. Figo 3. Tigana
2. Edgar Allan Pillow & MJJ & coolredwine - 1. Puskás 2. Masopust 3. Gullit
3. Paolo Di Canio - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Blanc 3. Lev Yashin
4. The Stain - 1. Zidane 2. Czibor 3. Amancio
5. Skizzo & Pat_Mustard - 1. van Basten 2. Netzer 3. Monti
6. Stobzilla - 1. Beckenbauer 2. B.Charlton 3. Bican
7. Joga Bonito - 1. Maldini 2. B.Moore 3. Sindelar
8. harms - 1. Dragan Džajić 2. Sárosi 3. Schuster
9. Aldo - 1. Xavi 2. Iniesta 3. Nedved
10. Raees & Gio - 1. Rijkaard 2. Facchetti 3. Kohler 4. Henry
11. Theon & NM - 1. Matthäus 2. Bozsik 3. Davids 4. Desailly
12. The Red Viper - 1. Gerd Müller 2. Sammer 3. Vieira 4. Shesternyov
13. big red123 - 1. Cruyff 2. Baresi 3. Stoichkov 4. Michael Laudrup
14. Šjor Bepo & Physiocrat - 1. Luis Suarez 2. Nesta 3. Hidegkuti 4. Ivanov
15. ctp - 1. Rummenigge 2. Scirea 3. Ocwirk 4. Mazzola
16. PedroMendez - 1. Meazza 2. Thuram 3. Schmeichel 4. Netto

@Aldo

 

[NM]

God this is slow. We should have done it without the AM's

In how many cases has an AM slowed it down? Theon wasn't online for the entire day. Me being an AM or not would not have changed that. People will always find stuff to complain about.

 

[Gio]

@The Red Viper

 

[Big red123]

In how many cases has an AM slowed it down? Theon wasn't online for the entire day. Me being an AM or not would not have changed that. People will always find stuff to complain about.

It seems like everyone has to take an hour when they come online to have a conversation with the AM before picking.

 

[Gio]

In how many cases has an AM slowed it down? Theon wasn't online for the entire day. Me being an AM or not would not have changed that. People will always find stuff to complain about.

Aye and Raees and I have pretty consistently made our pick within an hour or so (or less).

 

[Moby]

Lahm for me

 

[NM]

It seems like everyone has to take an hour when they come online to have a conversation with the AM before picking.

If you read the thread, you would see that I didn't even know about the pick. Theon made it. People have jobs and a life too my friend.

 

[Raees]

Aye and Raees and I have pretty consistently made our pick within an hour or so (or less).

Exactly and it doesn't help when most of our picks get picked literally the turn or two before ours.

Btw Gio I saw a vid of Henry v Nesta at Euro 2000 Final where he won man of the match - all I can say is

 

[Moby]

Sorry for the lack of picture and write up. Will do once I reach home.

 

[Joga Bonito]

@harms

 

[Skizzo]

Sorry for the lack of picture and write up. Will do once I reach home.

You're really half arsing your way through this

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

It seems like everyone has to take an hour when they come online to have a conversation with the AM before picking.

An hour cannot be considered unreasonable. If your first choice is taken, it would take me that to decide on alternates. And AM do get more people involved, so I think an hour is acceptable tradeoff.

 

[Raees]

1. crappycraperson - 1. Platini 2. Figo 3. Tigana
2. Edgar Allan Pillow & MJJ & coolredwine - 1. Puskás 2. Masopust 3. Gullit
3. Paolo Di Canio - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Blanc 3. Lev Yashin
4. The Stain - 1. Zidane 2. Czibor 3. Amancio
5. Skizzo & Pat_Mustard - 1. van Basten 2. Netzer 3. Monti
6. Stobzilla - 1. Beckenbauer 2. B.Charlton 3. Bican
7. Joga Bonito - 1. Maldini 2. B.Moore 3. Sindelar
8. harms - 1. Dragan Džajić 2. Sárosi 3. Schuster
9. Aldo - 1. Xavi 2. Iniesta 3. Nedved 4. Lahm
10. Raees & Gio - 1. Rijkaard 2. Facchetti 3. Kohler 4. Henry
11. Theon & NM - 1. Matthäus 2. Bozsik 3. Davids 4. Desailly
12. The Red Viper - 1. Gerd Müller 2. Sammer 3. Vieira 4. Shesternyov
13. big red123 - 1. Cruyff 2. Baresi 3. Stoichkov 4. Michael Laudrup
14. Šjor Bepo & Physiocrat - 1. Luis Suarez 2. Nesta 3. Hidegkuti 4. Ivanov
15. ctp - 1. Rummenigge 2. Scirea 3. Ocwirk 4. Mazzola
16. PedroMendez - 1. Meazza 2. Thuram 3. Schmeichel 4. Netto

@harms

 

[Šjor Bepo]

and i hoped to get Henry

 

[Moby]

You're really half arsing your way through this

Sorry about that buddy. An old friend just returned and we are out to celebrate. Which means in a few minutes I'll won't be in my senses. So it's best I do this later.

 

[harms]

Valery Voronin

I have a hard time posting write-ups as my picks go, because of all "not naming" thing, so I will try and post them after the drafting ends. A tragic story with this one

 

[harms]

1. crappycraperson - 1. Platini 2. Figo 3. Tigana
2. Edgar Allan Pillow & MJJ & coolredwine - 1. Puskás 2. Masopust 3. Gullit
3. Paolo Di Canio - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Blanc 3. Lev Yashin
4. The Stain - 1. Zidane 2. Czibor 3. Amancio
5. Skizzo & Pat_Mustard - 1. van Basten 2. Netzer 3. Monti
6. Stobzilla - 1. Beckenbauer 2. B.Charlton 3. Bican
7. Joga Bonito - 1. Maldini 2. B.Moore 3. Sindelar
8. harms - 1. Dragan Džajić 2. Sárosi 3. Schuster 4. Voronin
9. Aldo - 1. Xavi 2. Iniesta 3. Nedved 4. Lahm
10. Raees & Gio - 1. Rijkaard 2. Facchetti 3. Kohler 4. Henry
11. Theon & NM - 1. Matthäus 2. Bozsik 3. Davids 4. Desailly
12. The Red Viper - 1. Gerd Müller 2. Sammer 3. Vieira 4. Shesternyov
13. big red123 - 1. Cruyff 2. Baresi 3. Stoichkov 4. Michael Laudrup
14. Šjor Bepo & Physiocrat - 1. Luis Suarez 2. Nesta 3. Hidegkuti 4. Ivanov
15. ctp - 1. Rummenigge 2. Scirea 3. Ocwirk 4. Mazzola
16. PedroMendez - 1. Meazza 2. Thuram 3. Schmeichel 4. Netto

@Joga Bonito

 

[NM]

About time Voronin went.

 

[Skizzo]

Sorry about that buddy. An old friend just returned and we are out to celebrate. Which means in a few minutes I'll won't be in my senses. So it's best I do this later.

I'm just giving you a hard time. Although based on what you told me...this would be the perfect time for your player write up. And tactics too while we're at it

 

[Joga Bonito]

Joining his partner in crime Maldini, both of whom made the team of the tournament in 1988, and Moore to form an impregnable defense - Giuseppe Bergomi

 

[Joga Bonito]

1. crappycraperson - 1. Platini 2. Figo 3. Tigana 4.
2. Edgar Allan Pillow & MJJ & coolredwine - 1. Puskás 2. Masopust 3. Gullit 4.
3. Paolo Di Canio - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Blanc 3. Lev Yashin 4.
4. The Stain - 1. Zidane 2. Czibor 3. Amancio 4.
5. Skizzo & Pat_Mustard - 1. van Basten 2. Netzer 3. Monti 4.
6. Stobzilla - 1. Beckenbauer 2. B.Charlton 3. Bican 4.
7. Joga Bonito - 1. Maldini 2. B.Moore 3. Sindelar 4. Bergomi
8. harms - 1. Dragan Džajić 2. Sárosi 3. Schuster 4. Voronin
9. Aldo - 1. Xavi 2. Iniesta 3. Nedved 4. Lahm
10. Raees & Gio - 1. Rijkaard 2. Facchetti 3. Kohler 4. Henry
11. Theon & NM - 1. Matthäus 2. Bozsik 3. Davids 4. Desailly
12. The Red Viper - 1. Gerd Müller 2. Sammer 3. Vieira 4. Shesternyov
13. big red123 - 1. Cruyff 2. Baresi 3. Stoichkov 4. Michael Laudrup
14. Šjor Bepo & Physiocrat - 1. Luis Suarez 2. Nesta 3. Hidegkuti 4. Ivanov
15. ctp - 1. Rummenigge 2. Scirea 3. Ocwirk 4. Mazzola
16. PedroMendez - 1. Meazza 2. Thuram 3. Schmeichel 4. Netto

@Stobzilla

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Maldini, Moore and Bergomi That's fecking brick wall! Don't think you even need a keeper!

 

[The Stain]

Did Stobz leave his picks with someone?

 

[NM]

I do believe Bergomi only played rb at the euros

 

[harms]

Fun fact about Voronin - he is the first Soviet player with a personal sponsor (Adidas). Illegal, of course, it wasn't allowed at that time. They paid him 500 pounds so that he would play in their boots.

As fun as "Sheldon Cooper's fun with flags"

 

[The Stain]

Who can take my pick?

 

[Joga Bonito]

I do believe Bergomi only played rb at the euros

Who said I'm going to play a back 3? It is a nice option to have though.

Bergomi played as a side back or say a more tucked in RB role and never really played as an orthodox full back. If I use him in a back 3 as a RCB, it is more or less close to his normal individual role that he played for Italy although the dynamics of the team changes, naturally. I'm not exactly making a wholesale change here playing a full back as a central midfielder or making him play in a vastly different role. For instance I wondered if Rijkaard played as a DM in the Euros as it is quite a significant change from a sweeper role or CB role that I thought he only played in the Euros but it seems he did actually play as a DM in the 92 tournament so that's fine.

If his role in your team is close enough to his actual role back in the tournament, then I doubt anyone will complain. Obviously you're allowed to adjust to different tactics. I didn't make it a rule, because you need some leeway in that regard.

However, I'd think about adjusting too much. The first and second round picks all are players worthy to have a team built around them and if you want them to get the full credit for their performances, better use them in their best position.

Like Balu said it's not like we don't even have room for slight tactical changes and are rigidly expected to play the players in the exact same role and in the exact same set up. There is a fair bit of tactical leniency and leeway afforded and I don't think I'm altering his role too much heavily. Unless Balu says otherwise of course.

 

[The Stain]

Who can take my pick?

Need sleepy.

 

[Joga Bonito]

Need sleepy.

Ok PM me. I'll be here for a few hours and if your turn hasn't come by then, will pass it on to someone else before I log off.

 

[Pat_Mustard]

Also with Kohler you can partner him with anyone and he makes them stronger whereas Desailly with a weak partner doesn't give off that same vibe of security at the back.

Agreed to a large extent, although passing from the back has become such a feature of the match debates these days and Desailly has enough quality on the ball to reasonably be partnered with either a sweeper or stopper type without criticism in that aspect.

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Based on picks till now, this is my TotT on Euro performances:

Edit: replace one of the strikers with Puskas, it'll satisfy the pre-66 requirements too

 

[harms]

Based on picks till now, this is my TotT on Euro performances:

Edit: replace one of the strikers with Puskas, it'll satisfy the pre-66 requirements too

• Desailly wasn't good enough at DM position at Euro to justify his pick here - either replace Kohler, or get him out of the team
• Not sure about Müller - he is fantastic, but there are some forwards that I would've picked before him, probably. He wasn't player of the tournament, he was only third best player in his team in 72. Especially if you need to fit in another oldie - Sarosi, Sindelar or Puskas, for example. I understand the urge to stick with familiar faces though
• edited - on a second thought, Masopust shouldn't be here. He made it into the 60 dream team, but he wasn't his Ballon D'Or self, we saw a couple of more impressive midfield performances here. I understand that you're biased a little - Netto was best midfielder at that Euro and he is actually a better fit for a left side of a diamond, with all his left flank experience

edit: No Beckenbauer? It's hard to fit in both him and Sammer, I understand

 

[Raees]

Based on picks till now, this is my TotT on Euro performances:

Edit: replace one of the strikers with Puskas, it'll satisfy the pre-66 requirements too

Facchetti n Rijkaard have to be in there tbh..

 

[Pat_Mustard]

Based on picks till now, this is my TotT on Euro performances:

Edit: replace one of the strikers with Puskas, it'll satisfy the pre-66 requirements too

Without considering the picks, Sammer and Desailly have to be swapped around. Sammer had one of the iconic Euro tournaments marauding up to centre forward from his sweeper position. Why maroon him as an orthodox centre half?

 

[harms]

Maybe some are not the best individuals (like Netto and Tigana), but I feel that this set-up will suit the best player here better. Only one old player as I didn't want to mess with positions/formations - I will save those debates to the match-threads.

Edit:

• age restriction - fail
• nationality restriction - fail

I'm quite good at it