you see the quote, but still dont believe it until you hear him say it 
The Trump Presidency : Part 2
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At this point, that’s like being concerned the folks who just robbed Fort Knox and totally got away with it are planning to rob your local 7/11 next.
I see your point, and you're not really wrong. But the Catholic Church still commands a crowd of 1.4 billion followers and while in some parts of the world the Vatican's influence has waned a lot - it shouldn't be underestimated in large parts of the world where it indeed still does carry a lot of weight. Many of the abuses and financial and other improprieties happened under the very conservative John Paul II for instance and going back to that type of Church doesn't exactly seem ideal. Especially now that they ve at least made some attempts to clean up its act.
Not to mention the much more outdated ideals a more conservative Vatican would again impose upon the world whether its directly or indirectly through its many, many missionaries, dioceses, you name it. There is even signs some parts of the more church averse parts of the world are returning to it. That is not just another 4 years of potential impact on culture, that is potentially another 10-20 years. I think especially for Europeans that potential impact is easy to ignore, but i still think it's real.
Geebag going back on 145% to China
Larry David: My Dinner With Adolf
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/21/opinion/larry-david-hitler-dinner.htmlObviously there are some big Bill Maher fans amongst posters and Mods on the site that have loudly promoted his message for a long time. I myself Find him the only watchable ‘comedian politician’ nowadays. And the only non-partisan one.
But as an exercise in free speech I think it's worth posting this alternative take from Larry David. because I'm a fan of Larry David and Find him the only watchable ‘comedian politician’ nowadays. And the only non-partisan one.
Why do you need to do this instead of just making a point? The CE guidelines state "don’t reduce your fellow posters to villains.", especially when you aren't even engaging directly with anyone who supports/likes Maher or his views.
Those gen Z men who voted for him for ‘freeze peach’ is gonna find out that being a cnut has consequences
Did you mean to contradict yourself? Which one is the only watchable and non-partisan one?
“If you can’t convince them, confuse them.” -Harry S Truman
If only Trump could read.
Oh well, even a stopped watch is right twice a day.
Neither which I think was the point
That’s such a ridiculous one though. Tens of thousands of dollars of debt just put on people’s shoulders who would have made other financial decisions and commitments. This will screw over loads of people even more than they were before Bidens reversal
Dictatorships around the world cracking the champagne open as we speak.
That I can agree with.
The cruelty is always the point.
I’m a bit surprised that Kneecap weren’t immediately deported after Coachella, seeing as ICE have been literally grabbing students off the streets and stuffing them into unmarked vans simply because they attended campus events. In fact, it’s kind of surprising that they were even allowed in the country under the current regime. Trump’s brownshirts must have been slacking that day.
Scoop: Musk vs. Bessent dispute erupted into West Wing shouting match
https://www.axios.com/2025/04/23/musk-bessent-trump-white-house-irs
He's stuck in a loop.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c78jx68d922o
Trump accuses Zelensky of harming Ukraine peace negotiations
Donald Trump has accused Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky of harming peace negotiations, after he said Kyiv would not recognise Russian control of Crimea.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c78jx68d922o
Kremlin reminded him of his obligations. The proverbial yanking of the chain.
I do wonder if the EU and Zelensky can call his bluff. Be "open" to surrendering Crimea (yes I know that's still not fair to the Ukranians) - but as a condition thereof have Ukraine fast tracked to NATO membership. They can have their beaches while ensuring Russia can never encroach on the West even further without triggering a NATO response. Putin would obviously never go for it - but at minimum you get to call Trump's bluff.
Best case scenario: Trump is an absolute moron and a massive knobhead. He's discovered that Zelensky is the only one he has any capability to bully into making a deal, while Putin is untouchable, so he's attempting to bully Zelensky into submission while he constantly has to remain on the good side of Putin so he's desperate to treat him nicely. The most important part is reaching a deal, so he's able to say he negotiated peace, and zero fecks are given about the long term consequences.
Worst case: Above, more or less, and factor in that Trump is working on behalf of Russians.
The Americans continue to suggest deals that are a disaster for Ukraine and a victory for Russia. Then blame Zelensky for not accepting it. I think they'd accept a deal where they'd surrender parts of the country, as long as it came with a clear upside in relation to defense deals and future assurances.
Accidental or not, the man continues to be an absolute disaster for western countries, his anti-europe stance and the overall hostility is going to have huge consequences. The only ones he dislikes more seems to be China, which he can't bully either.
I think that's the key. The Russians have to know that they can only legally claim the territory if the Ukraine gets ironclad defense assurances. You want the land you've conquered since february 22? That means NATO membership included in a peace deal with bases. Putin would never accept that. But they know that Trump can be easiliy swayed with transactional arguments (cheap oil, gas, minerals and big golden Trump Tower in the swankiest district of Moscow) so they get Trump and his cronies to pile all the pressure on the Ukraine to surrender.
All he has are sound bites, he had no idea what he's doing, besides abandoning all allies of course, and grifting.
Just had this exact same discussion with my spouse. She thinks Trump is a dumb fecker, not smart enough to be an agent for anyone, who is being played by Putin.
The peace deal is essentially the same plan that was peddled by Manafort+ Kilimnik back in 2016. It gives Russia everything it wants, it is disgusting.
Why would he need to smart for that? He just needs to be compromised, and toe the line.
I kind of agree with that. I don't think there is necessarily any kompromat, I just think Trump is naturally predisposed to side with strongmen, he has no love for NATO or European alliances, he is dumb as feck and views everything as dealmaking, and he has no capacity for empathy. He is also a bit of a contrarian. He'd be really easy to sway to the side of Russia no matter what.
"Vladimir, STOP!"
Not sure that's been tried before, so at least it's original.
"Vladimir, STOP!"
Not sure that's been tried before, so at least it's original.
To be fair, that's probably just him misspelling Volodymyr.
"Very bad timing because it makes me look BAD!"
I said I've solve this in a week, what if someone actually asks me why I haven't done it!?
He said the first 24 hours of him becoming President. He's changed the goalposts so many times recently including saying it's not up to him and he's done all he can. The same playbook he adopts for nearly everything and anything he says or promises to do.
Yet still his supporters defend him or make excuses for him. It was bad the first time around, it's even worse this time.
"Vladimir, STOP!"
Not sure that's been tried before, so at least it's original.
When the dog starts eating shit in front of your friends again.
And then this beauty as well...
Ukrainian President, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, is boasting on the front page of The Wall Street Journal that, “Ukraine will not legally recognize the occupation of Crimea. There’s nothing to talk about here.” This statement is very harmful to the Peace Negotiations with Russia in that Crimea was lost years ago under the auspices of President Barack Hussein Obama, and is not even a point of discussion. Nobody is asking Zelenskyy to recognize Crimea as Russian Territory but, if he wants Crimea, why didn’t they fight for it eleven years ago when it was handed over to Russia without a shot being fired? The area also houses, for many years before “the Obama handover,” major Russian submarine bases. It’s inflammatory statements like Zelenskyy’s that makes it so difficult to settle this War. He has nothing to boast about! The situation for Ukraine is dire — He can have Peace or, he can fight for another three years before losing the whole Country. I have nothing to do with Russia, but have much to do with wanting to save, on average, five thousand Russian and Ukrainian soldiers a week, who are dying for no reason whatsoever. The statement made by Zelenskyy today will do nothing but prolong the “killing field,” and nobody wants that! We are very close to a Deal, but the man with “no cards to play” should now, finally, GET IT DONE. I look forward to being able to help Ukraine, and Russia, get out of this Complete and Total MESS, that would have never started if I were President!
Plus ones about one Rupert Murdoch promising him he would change his Pollster (Fake, crooked always gets Trump wrong etc)
He's pissed at something today that's for sure. He's posted about a dozen times in the last hour.
"Vladimir, STOP!"
Not sure that's been tried before, so at least it's original.
I'm imagining that being said in a Kenneth Williams voice.
Never heard of a US president lamenting the deaths of Russian soldiers before. Ronald Reagan is rolling over in his grave.
Fox News Poll: The first 100 days of President Trump’s second term
Trump is -11% (Approve minus Disapprove) on overall job performance and underwater on everything except Border Security. Inflation: -26%, Tariffs: -25%, Economy: -18%, Foreign Policy: -14%.
This is a Fox News Poll. Yikes.
Trump is -11% (Approve minus Disapprove) on overall job performance and underwater on everything except Border Security. Inflation: -26%, Tariffs: -25%, Economy: -18%, Foreign Policy: -14%.
This is a Fox News Poll. Yikes.
That's why he's having a go a Murdoch and the Pollster they use for Fox. Apparently it's got Chinese connections too. It's obviously all false and completely Fake News as his numbers are better than ever.
Oh and the price of petrol is down and the price of eggs are down 86%
And groceries, nobody uses that word, but they are down too.beautiful word, groceries
Yup. I've been saying it for years now, how can Republicans especially older ones go from hating Russia to suddenly being on the same side? It's like the Cold War never happened. Trump is like some kind of mind virus that has completely switched long held beliefs as well as completely rewriting history or just erasing the memory of it altogether.
The MAGA ones are ideologically aligned with Russia. Conservative, Christian, anti-woke etc.
The other ones are probably generally afraid of criticizing Trump and losing re-election.
Fair points.
Having a huge white majority society like Russia is appealing to them and what many are calling to go back to in most of Europe too. The levels of racism and hatred aimed at people of colour has gone off the charts. In the UK and lots of Europe it's definitely more Islamaphobia but the outright racism towards all is definitely there as well.