The Trump Presidency - Part 2

[Revan]

I hear that it has to go through Senate but it’s difficult to expect for those gutless GOP senators to go against Trump.

The issue is that three of them can go against and still it won’t matter. And well, there are just two GOP senators who might vote against Trump.

So, I expect all these insane appointments will be confirmed. And if they will struggle to get confirmed, the pressure will be high on Thune to do recess appointments.

 

[MTF]

Well any limited delusional of normality has been thrown out of the window now.

Gaetz and trump deciding on law and retribution of enemies is going to be North Korea levels of bat shit.

Gaetz will justify and support ANYTHING.

If Gaetz does manage to get confirmed, then all that's left is that there aren't that many MAGA types among the DOJ staff and US Attorneys' offices that are needed to prosecute cases. But that's definitely not great assurance.

 

[Redplane]

are these all the people with dirt or Trump or all the people that did Trump favours to win the election?

or maybe he's just picking maga names out of a hat

Yes

 

[WPMUFC]

Tulsi, basically a foreign agent at this stage, Now has the keys to intelligence.

US intelligence will now be leaked to Russia and Syria on an industrial scale.

 

[WPMUFC]

If Gaetz does manage to get confirmed, then all that's left is that there aren't that many MAGA types among the DOJ staff and US Attorneys' offices that are needed to prosecute cases. But that's definitely not great assurance.

Isn't there still plans to reclassify the entire federal public sector as political appointments? Thus they would fall directly under the executive and party politics so he can move anyone on?

 

[The Firestarter]

Tulsi, basically a foreign agent at this stage, Now has the keys to intelligence.

US intelligence will now be leaked to Russia and Syria on an industrial scale.

Since the people that actually do those jobs know very well who she is, I am pretty certain, if it didn't already exist before the so-called deep state would just come into being.

 

[Jev]

Matt fecking Gaetz. The next four years will be the shitshow of the century. At least his picks for secretary of state and defence aren’t the most anti-Ukraine candidates he could have picked.

 

[Precaution]

Doesn't the Senate have to accept these nominations and you know grill them? I doubt a TV Host and Matt Bloody Gaetz are going to last long, the new Sarah Huckerbees of our time

Senators expressed disbelief at President-elect Donald Trump’s decision to tap Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) to be his attorney general, indicating the conservative firebrand could have a tough road to confirmation.

Republicans largely refrained from wading into whether Gaetz — who’s under investigation by the Department of Justice and faces a House Ethics Committee probe — could be confirmed. Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) rolled his eyes and Sens. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) and Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.) declined to comment.

 

[Rajma]

Checks and balances

 

[ManUtd1999]

Tulsi, basically a foreign agent at this stage, Now has the keys to intelligence.

US intelligence will now be leaked to Russia and Syria on an industrial scale.

I don’t know if she is a foreign agent, but she is utterly unqualified for this job.

This is much worse than 2016.

And let’s not have any illusions: the Senate will confirm all of them.

 

[The Firestarter]

Checks

fixed

 

[TheGame]

My only hope is we get whistleblowers galore with the expected corruption and they bring this administration down. There are no checks and balances whatsoever.

 

[Rajma]

 

[The Firestarter]

My only hope is we get whistleblowers galore with the expected corruption and they bring this administration down. There are no checks and balances whatsoever.

Did you miss his proposed law against whistle-blowers or whatever that shite was.

 

[Redplane]

My only hope is we get whistleblowers galore with the expected corruption and they bring this administration down. There are no checks and balances whatsoever.

Yeah but then look at what happened with whistleblowers last time. It was disgusting on so many levels. It ll be worse this time.

 

[AfonsoAlves]

Ok, I've always been against it but:

EU Centralized Military is needed NOW.

 

[Adisa]

America is about to find out.

 

[VorZakone]

This Trump presidency is going to be a wild ride.

 

[ManUtd1999]

Ok, I've always been against it but:

EU Centralized Military is needed NOW.

Europe can’t rely on the U.S. for too long. The U.S. is less interested on that side of the world and more in China. It saddens me, but that’s the reality.

 

[VorZakone]

 

[TheGame]

 

[The Firestarter]

Ok, I've always been against it but:

EU Centralized Military is needed NOW.

It was needed 10 years ago. Now it's too late.

 

[Laurencio]

Wouldn't that require a law change?

 

[Rajma]

Ok, I've always been against it but:

EU Centralized Military is needed NOW.

Nah just have some sort of UK / Nordics / Baltics / CEE (Poland/Czech/Romania) military block besides NATO, it’s better to have fewer but more committed members under the proper leadership.

 

[WPMUFC]

I don’t know if she is a foreign agent, but she is utterly unqualified for this job.

This is much worse than 2016.

She went on an undisclosed trip to meet assad and from that moment on has hidden behind a "anti war" stance to promote assad, dismiss criticism of his regime and try to influence Syrian policy in the congress.

If you can't be open about your meetings with dictatorships, and your policy goals align very nicely with their goals after that visit, I don't have much time for trying to justify their stances.

Could she just be delusional? I'll concede that possibility. But I'd need a lot of convincing that taking on the positions that ultimately benefit the dictatorships you personally meet is not worthy of the "foreign agent" tag.

 

[Revan]

Wouldn't that require a law change?

I think that the president can fire any general.

 

[The Firestarter]

Nah just have some sort of UK / Nordics / Baltics / CEE (Poland/Czech/Romania) military block besides NATO, it’s better to have fewer but more committed members under the proper leadership.

If Airbus get to make a lot more a400 and even size it up a bit. Maybe. Logistics are massively lacking without usaf

 

[TheGame]

 

[Nogbadthebad]

Surely the entire point of hiring Gaetz is that he has so much dirt he can be easily coerced to do anything.

The ability to blackmail them into loyalty is pretty much the selling point for trump. hes like putin, he wants to run things like the mafia, not a political organization.

 

[Adisa]

I have no sympathy for Americans. This shitshow is a culmination of a society that lost its marbles ages ago.

 

[TheGame]

 

[Rajma]

These appointments are making sense in the context of forces that brought Trump back to life.

 

[VorZakone]

 

[ManUtd1999]

She went on an undisclosed trip to meet assad and from that moment on has hidden behind a "anti war" stance to promote assad, dismiss criticism of his regime and try to influence Syrian policy in the congress.

If you can't be open about your meetings with dictatorships, and your policy goals align very nicely with their goals after that visit, I don't have much time for trying to justify their stances.

Could she just be delusional? I'll concede that possibility. But I'd need a lot of convincing that taking on the positions that ultimately benefit the dictatorships you personally meet is not worthy of the "foreign agent" tag.

She’s certainly a questionable person, on multiple levels, including what you’re outlining here.

But we need to be careful when we use the term “foreign agent” or “agent of a foreign government.” If she indeed is, why didn’t the Biden administration do something about it?

The next 4 years will be very long.

 

[nimic]

History books in the future are going to be so wild. You'll go from the holocaust and the cold war to this. It's like if Hitler was kawaii, but otherwise still Hitler.

 

[Tarrou]

if Gaetz is the palate cleanser we're in pretty bad shape

 

[Redplane]

interesting thought for sure, and it doesn't seem that far fetched given how hated he seems to be by many in his own party. But then again, Trump loves his ass kissers. If this is the thought though that should tell you everything you need to know about the rest of the appointments.

 

[Raoul]

Predictably, Rapey McForehead is trending on Elon Musk's social network.

Gaetz's public confirmation hearing will be interesting when the Dems call in Kevin McCarthy.

 

[Raoul]

Sounds like nonsense to me. The only other questionable picks are Hegseth and Gabbard, and ditching Gaetz wouldn't have anything to with how the Senate vote on the latter two.

 

[Mike Smalling]

Not so sure. Gaetz would follow Trump's orders to prosecute his enemies, and he would do it without question.