Yes. The difference between Trump and Musk is that Trump is light on ideiology and has a bigger emphasis on achieving individual wins by way of transactional deal making. Musk on the other hand seems increasingly obsessed with pushing back against the "woke mind virus" and remains infatuated with his own savior complex about saving humans by colonozing Mars.
The Trump Presidency - Part 2
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Yes. The difference between Trump and Musk is that Trump is light on ideiology and has a bigger emphasis on achieving individual wins by way of transactional deal making. Musk on the other hand seems increasingly obsessed with pushing back against the "woke mind virus" and remains infatuated with his own savior complex about saving humans by colonozing Mars.
That's not an ideology though? That's just what's trending on X.
True.
Considering Yahweh isn't even Jesus in Hebrew, I'd guess probably not.
The only ones who will suffer are consumers whether in the US or elsewhere as all the costs will likely be passed on to them.
I can't speak for anyone else but it's going worse than I expected
some lunatic fox host as SecDef and this weird DOGE shit.. look I knew things were gonna be bad but this is starting off on a whole different level of bad to 2016
On the right, its more of an ideology born out of a growing obsession related to completely divesting the government from all things ranging from DEI to trans issues to teaching critical race theory to any other policy related to equity in the workplace etc. As we've seen with DeSantis in Florida, its already resulted in book ban bills and with Trump returning to the WH, its only going to gain momentum at a national level.
Curious if glorious leader will put tariffs on Canadian wood. I'm sure that will do wonders for our housing costs.
That's just calling the culture war an ideology? It's not really a framework as much as a series of knee jerk censorship.
Mostly I think that's just a manifestation of the age old desire to control.
Agreed. Its definitely a subset of what some call the culture war.
The culture war is an integral part of the modern right, though.
I think the clicks are more important to Elon than the message. I'd say he's for turning. I feel the same with Trump, he just likes the reaction. I think if liberals were as fevered he'd just as easily do what they want.
All just opinion, based on very little science.
Aye. Depressingly. It's so knee jerk and reactionary, you can't engage with it on any real ideological level.
That's true, but it's not just consumers who are affected or will suffer.
A consumer has the choice to not buy a product, so if the consumers don't buy it then the exporter loses business, and when that happens the workers who actually produce the goods in question lose their jobs.
If DOGE and RFK do what they plan to do, 2028 will be a very good election to lose for the Democrats. Wait for the collapse to hit fully, instead of taking the blame as it happens. Unsafe food, murky water, and the total collapse of the public sector, leaving millions in poverty.
The only issue is, they need a committed lefty for the next one to fix the ruins. Someone who will persecute his political opponents including businessmen, and is willing to spend. Fittingly, exactly 100 years after FDR.
The only issue is, they need a committed lefty for the next one to fix the ruins. Someone who will persecute his political opponents including businessmen, and is willing to spend. Fittingly, exactly 100 years after FDR.
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-creating-maga-military-purge-generals-veterans-group-warns-1985025
Good luck with that Donnie boy.
Good luck with that Donnie boy.
This is simply not true. This thread is a good example, I think trump is human trash and his voters fecking idiots. I don't wish for trump's voters suffering nor will I be happy when it happens.
"They voted for trump so they deserve to suffer and I'll be happy when it happens" is sorta the definition of black and white.
So very strange post...
Just wanted to emphasize the second line of your post. Nothing matters if the Dems respond to increasing poverty by doubling down on centre-right policy.
It wouldn't work since the house is so narrow and there will always be a few Rs who don't get on board.
Already a loss for Trump. It was a secret vote so there can't be any retribution for how someone voted.
As I predicted.
Cannot wait for Tucker Carlson's meltdown and Elon's short 'concerning' tweet.
Elon definitely has one
His whole family is into weird eugenics shit
There’s also his personal crusade against transgenders.
The whole point of buying Twitter was to shift the US more to the right.
Trump yea is definitely more of a conman than an ideologue.
I suppose bigotry is an ideology of sorts.
It's strange to cheer for the political establishment but these are strange times. Def no fan of Thune by any means but the existing power in DC is the only thing standing in the way of Trump, or letting him do whatever he wants.
O'rly? I think we do know.
To be honest, I can see that was true at one time. Musk is absolutely on the spectrum and with the majority of very successful people they channel their energy and focus in to their work. It's also why many scientists and criminologists such as crime scene investigators even police detectives are so meticulous in their work. ADHD or OCD is an asset if used in a positive and productive way. The down side is they are often control freaks who micromanage everything. It can be hugely detremental if working with or if in charge of a lot of people.
It's also well documented that when people with creative or over active minds get bored they usually tend to self destruct hence Musks spiral in to the Twitter void and massive substance usage. It's been extremely evident that since Elon bought Twitter he took a step back from his other roles at companies like Tesla and Space X.
I think the worrying part is that this will breath new life in to him and give him a new challenge to focus the majority of his time and energy on. With the power and access Trump has given him its fair to say he could have a hugely significant part in every aspect of the US government.
I really am trying to find any positive I can at this point and I think the only positive I can see is that despite all the initial uproar and prophecies of Twitters demise when he took over and cut 80% of the staff from the site, none of the worries and fears or predictions actually came true. Yes he lost millions in advertising revenue but as for the actual running of the site, if you ignore the direction it's taken, there is little difference to the site itself.
Arguments could be made it's not advancing in any meaningful way and in amongst the 80% he fired, he definitely lost some of the most creative minds in the business, but for the most part it seems to be working out fine and it's business as usual just with 5000 less employees on the payroll. If Elon can actually manage to gut government departments and get them running better and more efficiently then that could be a good thing.
I was thinking the same, I always thought it meant 'creator' or 'god'
That's what I thought too.
Especially the UK who export £160 BILLION worth of goods to the USA each year with about £140 Billion coming from the USA to here. Of course it will be even fecking worse for us because morons voted for Brexit and Boris the feckwitted clusterfeck clown didn't manage to secure a trade agreement with Trump when he had the chance. Probably too busy swapping stories of sexual conquests or kissing his arse. Sunak managed to secure one with Biden last year but it's hardly the deal of the decade and who knows if it will stay in place when Trumps Tarriff shenanigans start effecting things.
Oh, it’s not that I’m upset. Trump's hitched his wagon to the Zionist cause in the ME, and seems chosen people who lack the standing, authority, backbone, or wisdom to stand up to him, no matter what he decides to do.
Anyways, I've seen and heard enough to know this Admin is going to be an unmitigated disaster.
This does not happen in most developing countries. When leaders of poorer nations are corrupt it effects peoples' pockets, health, security, access to internet, electricity etc. straight away so there is no flying under the radar.
After 4 years of Trump, I still expect a thriving America and all his crazy actions will have minimal impact on Americans daily lives. In the long term his policies regarding climate, Ukraine and the middle east will have the most negative impact on the world, while America will be just fine.
Who is this guy? Surely he won't go against Trump? It's a struggle to find any Republicans with a backbone these days.
Are you sure about that?
What about the Qatar scandal in the European Union that didn't come to light til later? Funding corruption in the French elections? Austrian politics getting involved with Russian oligarchs? And the list probably goes on and those are just the things we know about.
I think it's seriously naive to think people don't take advantage of the distraction. Especially in *developed* countries (read: not developing like you talked about, bc they ll do their shit regardless)
He was McConnell’s Number 2 for years. He should be whey very similar to McConnell, but probably not as powerful.
Wait...wasn't that the nonce?
Bahahaha
So what happens to the ethics investigations into him now? Poof also? Gaetz doesn't exactly seem popular with many Republicans either so that could (will) be a shit show.
TBH there was never any chance of a trade deal with the US, and Sunak didn't get one, AFAIK, he had discussions but I don't think anything was signed, if it had you'd know about it - GM food and chlorinated chicken for starters!
what the feck