This is going to make me so mad. He’ll be so nice about it too.
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They would have to believe Frankie is a traitor for that too work which they would probably would
Why? Frankie isn’t sure of Alexander at all.
Charlottes fecked then. No real way out of that
Calling it now. They vote out Charlotte but they also don’t feel comfortable with Alexander in the final so they shaft him from the money.
Think this will happen, though I think Frankie is fecked as well.
Frankie and Charlotte will take each other out. And Leanne will screw Alexander over and we are left with the gormless idiots to win.
I don't really get this. Why wouldn't they believe Frankie when she now says Charlotte is a Traitor?
F says C is a traitor. She obviously is because they know she asked her. Everyone votes Charlotte. Game over.
Even if there's a slight suspicion that F is a Traitor, there's no way a Traitor is going for another Traitor in the final.
Am I missing something? I feel like they should have done this earlier on.
Are they going to give Frankie the opportunity to join Charlotte as a Traitor?
F says C is a traitor. She obviously is because they know she asked her. Everyone votes Charlotte. Game over.
Even if there's a slight suspicion that F is a Traitor, there's no way a Traitor is going for another Traitor in the final.
Am I missing something? I feel like they should have done this earlier on.
Are they going to give Frankie the opportunity to join Charlotte as a Traitor?
There is every reason why a traitor would go for another traitor in the final. They want the money. It's happened in other seasons.
And the reason why they wouldn't trust Frankie is because it's literally her word against Charlotte's. Just because she says Charlotte is a traitor, the group has every right to question if Frankie is telling the truth. And from the sounds of it, I think Charlotte was more trusted than Frankie - up until tonight's episode at least. The back and forth with Freddie might have changed that.
She could spin it as Frankie being a traitor, being told faithful by Charlotte and then Frankie just making up that Charlotte said traitor. Because when players leave now they don’t reveal their role so they would never know for sure.
Freddie said on uncloaked that Charlotte is much more trusted in there than Frankie so she could definitely try spin it around.
Yeah Charlotte's last throw of the dice is to convince everyone else that Frankie is a traitor. My belief is that the others will just say we can't trust either of you I'm sorry.
I am not sure that Charlotte is as trusted anymore, largely because of Freddie's parting gift.
True, but if they consider Freddie voted for Charlotte too - that gives a bit more weight to Frankie’s argument rather than Charlotte’s.
I really hope they banish Charlotte. There was no need for her to get so greedy and backstabby immediately - first with Minah and then Freddie. And it wasn’t just at the round table with Minah, Charlotte was dangling her name out right after her first breakfast as a traitor.
Yep - there would be too much doubt for Charlotte to not be banished.
I just hope they don’t banish Alexander as well!
I hope Alexander does win as well but I think it will be a shootout between him and Leanne with Jake picking. Would be slightly poetic if a Male duo faithful beats an all female Traitor group (except for the few hours Freddie did it).
When Frankie says x is a traitor the only play is to vote both off to make sure surely?
Yup.
Yep game theory means you vote both and guarantee you got a traitor. Then I think they vote off Alexander and you get a Jake/Leanne win. Can’t see it going any other way. Jake deserves it. Leanne can feck off. Bullying people into being nice to her basically.
I would like to see traitors actually work together in future. Having two votes that late game is actually pretty powerful. There’s been loads of friendly pairs in the group over the show so nobody would suspect two traitors being so openly pally with each other.
I don't think they'll vote off Alexander. Pretty clear there couldn't have been 4 traitors remaining when Minah got voted off.
They'll vote off Charlotte and then be forced to vote Frankie off to be 100% sure that they've got the final one.
They'll vote off Charlotte and then be forced to vote Frankie off to be 100% sure that they've got the final one.
Why?
Yeah am not keen on Leanne. It's all edited so who knows though.
He caught Linda on day one. He voted for Armani. His strategy to follow the skull clowns was quite clever.
He’s not been dead right the whole way and he’s been fortunate not to have been murdered but out of everyone left I’d say he deserves it the most.
Yeah he's not been a sheep like most of them.
He’s also not gone behind anyone’s back. He’s accused people to their faces all game and been fair about it.
After my efforts at the forum's WW games I am not trying to come across as anyone who as a clue anyway
Her best bet might be too say Chartlie is a faithful. Charlotte can't really go against her when it comes to voting because it would look pretty suspicious.
But while lying to the group, Frankie then needs to tell Alexander the truth in private.
But I just don't see any of that happening. All of the faithfuls seem to think the point of the game is to catch traitors so she'll come right out and tell the group, even it tanks her own game.
Surely as they know Frankie, as seer, MUST be told correctly Charlotte's identity, they vote her out straight away?
It would be different if the identity if the seer was secret and they had to convince people about the person they had been told about
If I was seer I'd have picked someone under the radar, it's win win as you either guarantee an ally, or you avoid a Mollie and Harry situation
Unless they let Charlotte recruit again? I hope they don't though but could she pick Frankie and try and make her an ally, agree to share the pot, and get her to lie about what identity she was told?
Unfortunately I think there's no way Alexander isn't banished, they're all too suspicious of him. Leanne maybe also, if Alexander can get rid of her before he's banished. If I had any doubts I'd keep voting to banish again, either you bin a traitor, or you get more money for yourself
I can see Frankie and Jake winning jointly.
It would be different if the identity if the seer was secret and they had to convince people about the person they had been told about
If I was seer I'd have picked someone under the radar, it's win win as you either guarantee an ally, or you avoid a Mollie and Harry situation
Unless they let Charlotte recruit again? I hope they don't though but could she pick Frankie and try and make her an ally, agree to share the pot, and get her to lie about what identity she was told?
Unfortunately I think there's no way Alexander isn't banished, they're all too suspicious of him. Leanne maybe also, if Alexander can get rid of her before he's banished. If I had any doubts I'd keep voting to banish again, either you bin a traitor, or you get more money for yourself
I can see Frankie and Jake winning jointly.
Alexander has been my favourite this series. He's a bit crazy
I personally think they should have kept it secret just to see it play out. I think recruiting is done as they can't murder anymore so being a traitor doesn't matter except if you are at the end.
They know Frankie has been told what Charlotte is, they just don't know if they can 100% trust her which is what will lead to both their downfalls.
I think Frankie was she would pick a guaranteed faithful which would fully confirm she has an ally with Leanne/Jake. But she messed up
Yep if Fran was smart she would know revealing Charlotte as a traitor means she’s dead. She will get counter accused and no incentive for the group to save her.
Smart play is to not reveal Charlotte, but that probably doesn’t go very well too.
Yep if Fran was smart she would know revealing Charlotte as a traitor means she’s dead. She will get counter accused and no incentive for the group to save her.
Smart play is to not reveal Charlotte, but that probably doesn’t go very well too.
Not sure what she can do with that, as she will have to get rid of Charlotte eventually if she wants to win the money.
Alexander is a ruddy bluddy nice bloke.
Tell one trusted person the truth and down the line reveal it. Only play I can think of, going the obvious route it awful. But she’s been dealt a bad hand.
He knows how to manipulate people but in a nice way so not to look devious. He does it in a way that looks genuine. Clever bloke.
Yep, can see why he has his job.
Still think there needs to be some motivation for traitors to keep other traitors in the game.
Freddie was recruited for the sole aim of being sacrificed, and then as per the theme in previous seasons, Freddie in his dying words as a traitor decides to drop Charlotte’s name in the mix out of nowhere just to bring her down as well. That should seal her fate along with the seer reveal.
I say previous seasons but I’ve only watched the one where Harry won and he too nearly got outed by a dying traitor (but the daft girl didn’t see through it) but I’d imagine all of these will have watched every season of traitors as research and sensed the pattern here
Freddie was recruited for the sole aim of being sacrificed, and then as per the theme in previous seasons, Freddie in his dying words as a traitor decides to drop Charlotte’s name in the mix out of nowhere just to bring her down as well. That should seal her fate along with the seer reveal.
I say previous seasons but I’ve only watched the one where Harry won and he too nearly got outed by a dying traitor (but the daft girl didn’t see through it) but I’d imagine all of these will have watched every season of traitors as research and sensed the pattern here
There's no way none of them didn't clock that Charlotte vote as it came out of knowhere. Her goose was cooked once she attempted to throw him under the bus.
Freddie at the round table
Hope Alexander doesn’t get voted off.
Hope Alexander doesn’t get voted off.
Maia, Armani, Anna, Livi, Leanne and Tyler were all Tiktokers with 10-150k followers pre-Traitors. Francesca has a big following on her interior design instagram. Elen and Kasim also had over 10k followers on insta before they were on show.
Compared to the first two seasons it's a huge increase, it seems like the criteria for season 3 was either fake something (job/accent) or be an influencer.
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They ask people to be on it, so it makes sense that they’d have a following because they’re more likely to find them and be able see what their character is like. They do applications as well, but it probably makes the job easier to just go and look for some of them on socials.
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Charlotte really needed the knowing about the shield thing to not be announced at breakfast. It could have worked out if Leanne chose to only tell a select few that she trusted, but she was never going to keep that quiet. I hadn’t considered that previously.
She’s obviously fecked now as there’s no way everyone else keeps her in once Frankie reveals it, even if it she puts up a good fight. But as that’s her only option it seems certain Frankie is going to get punted too. She should have clocked Freddie’s vote as a red flag.
Freddie totally bollocksed the Minah thing. He had all day to think of a decent lie about it
She’s obviously fecked now as there’s no way everyone else keeps her in once Frankie reveals it, even if it she puts up a good fight. But as that’s her only option it seems certain Frankie is going to get punted too. She should have clocked Freddie’s vote as a red flag.
Freddie totally bollocksed the Minah thing. He had all day to think of a decent lie about it
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Honestly, at the end Freddie should have just voted for himself for a laugh.Charlotte really needed the knowing about the shield thing to not be announced at breakfast. It could have worked out if Leanne chose to only tell a select few that she trusted, but she was never going to keep that quiet. I hadn’t considered that previously.
She’s obviously fecked now as there’s no way everyone else keeps her in once Frankie reveals it, even if it she puts up a good fight. But as that’s her only option it seems certain Frankie is going to get punted too. She should have clocked Freddie’s vote as a red flag.
Freddie totally bollocksed the Minah thing. He had all day to think of a decent lie about it
Freddie really butchered that lie.