Television The Traitors (BBC) | Series 3 now airing. If you watch episodes on the iPlayer that haven't aired on the BBC television, put discussion in spoilers

I don't remember this being as over-the-top dramatic last time. The music, Claudia Winkleman saying "oh and another thing I forgot...", the weird guy doing weights topless in his room, the music, the door-knocking scenes, ... It's all quite hammy.


Her opening the door and going ‘ITS YOU!’ Was hilariously cringe :lol:
 
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I don’t understand why they don’t tell the murdered faithful who the traitors are. Would be a nice added layer to the entertainment to watch them find out who murdered them.
 
Anyone who's listened to the Chatabix podcast (Joe Wilkinson and David Earl) will know from the Paul Gorton Deal Or No Deal eps that he fancies a bit of himself and will have seen him literally undoing himself coming way off. The bloke is a plonker.
 
Her opening the door and going ‘ITS YOU!’ Was hilariously cringe :lol:
It was, but isn’t it sort of supposed to be? Isn’t it parodying things like Cludo that is somewhat a bit silly.
I don’t understand why they don’t tell the murdered faithful who the traitors are. Would be a nice added layer to the entertainment to watch them find out who murdered them.
Maybe they’re worried they’ll tell the faithfuls?
 
Maybe they’re worried they’ll tell the faithfuls?

When would they get the opportunity to do that? Where do they go after being murdered? I thought they’d be escorted out of the castle and straight out of the game?
 
Agree with this!
They always make the same mistakes. Early guesses for the traitor tend to be focused on anyone who is a bit different, or who they perceive as ‘odd’. They discount the popular people - ‘no way they could be traitors!’ Up until they have eliminated several faithful and someone suggests trying a different approach!

And if she does indeed go, I agree this could be one of the strongest traitor groups I’ve seen. Paul and Miles are both well liked and trusted by almost all, and I actually think Harry is doing well. Think he is coming across as a typical squaddie - I don’t think anyone would have him down as a corporal! So I think he is being smarter than it appears.
I think as mentioned Paul is probably too well liked and considered a faithful by so many that he'll draw suspicions soon (though the faithfuls in the UK series 1 were terrible at noticing this). He'll need to be getting shields to justify it.
Can definitely see Miles getting far, but he'll need to come up with some actual suspects and reasonings.
 
I really don't think Paul is as smart as he thinks he is, certainly not as much as Wilf was last year. I think they've gone for backstabbing another traitor so early on isn't required unless your neck was on the line. He also had zero influence in the group when he targeted Jaz. Harry at least seems to gain some traction with going after Zack.
I don't think Wilf even played it smartly last year tbh. Everyone liked him but he played entirely for himself and ended up screwing himself over.
He also looked incredibly nervous every round table, especially when his name was mentioned.
 
When would they get the opportunity to do that? Where do they go after being murdered? I thought they’d be escorted out of the castle and straight out of the game?
I dunno maybe someone sneaks a phone in or something? Or something happens online? I dunno. :lol:
 
When would they get the opportunity to do that? Where do they go after being murdered? I thought they’d be escorted out of the castle and straight out of the game?

They now do get told, it's shown in the spin off show on bbc2, presented by Ed Gamble.
 
Brian was like a PV shooting his load on turn zero. Basically like @BD
Only I don't miss.

But yeah, I was half expecting him to say he had some sort of PV power during his meltdown right before voting. Felt sorry for him to be honest.
 
Is it the same as last time, in that only the traitors left alive get money, if the traitors win? And do they have to kill off all faithfuls, or just get parity of numbers?
 
I don't think Wilf even played it smartly last year tbh. Everyone liked him but he played entirely for himself and ended up screwing himself over.
He also looked incredibly nervous every round table, especially when his name was mentioned.

Well he got to the end and being likable when you are backstabbing them is a key part, he made alliances that worked really well for him and was able to put down two traitors both at the right time. Didn't get blindsided at all like the others did.

He ended quite poorly but I think by that stage the stress had got to him
 
Well he got to the end and being likable when you are backstabbing them is a key part, he made alliances that worked really well for him and was able to put down two traitors both at the right time. Didn't get blindsided at all like the others did.

He ended quite poorly but I think by that stage the stress had got to him
He didn't get blindsided because he was the one doing all the blindsiding. He became paranoid about being betrayed after they voted Alyssa off, but that was mainly down to him looking to betray his fellow traitors. Other than Alyssa he didn't need to go against them at the times he did, he just wanted to be the sole winner. It's why he recruited Kieran just so he could throw him under the bus and it's what ultimately cost him.

The social side is obviously a big part and he did do well in that regard, but that seemed more like natural friendships than it specifically being his plan. Had he recruited one of his allies the traitors probably would have won.
 
Is it the same as last time, in that only the traitors left alive get money, if the traitors win? And do they have to kill off all faithfuls, or just get parity of numbers?
I think it's the same as last time yeah.
I think the second question would depend on numbers. There just has to be a traitor still in the game when they decide to end it. Going into decision to end the game with 2 vs 2 wouldn't be an auto win.

Interesting that they've had the recruitment so early this time as the faithfuls will probably be happy thinking there are only 3 traitors for a good while
 
Nah Wilf was a good traitor. He only lost cause Kieran was a dick and basically broke the rules of the game.
 
Nah Wilf was a good traitor. He only lost cause Kieran was a dick and basically broke the rules of the game.
Good at making friends yes and he did well to keep them all around, but those friends never questioned anything and even after pretty much being told he was a traitor in the end nearly faffed it.
His moves with Amanda and Kieran were incredibly poor decisions that were motivated by him wanting to be the only winner.

Kieran probably shouldn't have been allowed to do that, and I think the show messed up even allowing a recruitment at that stage, but Wilf caused it to go that way.
 
He didn't get blindsided because he was the one doing all the blindsiding. He became paranoid about being betrayed after they voted Alyssa off, but that was mainly down to him looking to betray his fellow traitors. Other than Alyssa he didn't need to go against them at the times he did, he just wanted to be the sole winner. It's why he recruited Kieran just so he could throw him under the bus and it's what ultimately cost him.

The social side is obviously a big part and he did do well in that regard, but that seemed more like natural friendships than it specifically being his plan. Had he recruited one of his allies the traitors probably would have won.

Fair enough at least you admit he instigated the blindsiding which two other traitors did not get prepared for (personally I think he had to go for Amanda to prove his credentials with the faithfuls again) and he was good at the social side which was an important aspect of being a good traitor.

I agree he messed up towards the end but I thought the overall stress was going to kill him.
 
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I don’t understand why they don’t tell the murdered faithful who the traitors are. Would be a nice added layer to the entertainment to watch them find out who murdered them.

As Cally said there's a spin off show on BBC2 which shows all that kind of stuff (the first couple dead were told the day after). It is also on BBC Sounds but obviously there you can't see the reactions, only hear what they say.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p0h0q056

They have 15 minute bonus segments just for BBC Sounds but not listened to the bonus segment yet so don't know how spoilery it is. They did talk about
finding out about Diane and Ross when Diane sent a picture to Aubrey on whatsapp over Christmas of the two together and he didn't make the link, he just thought Ross was visiting :lol:
 
Paul definitely fancies himself as the Wilf of this year - will throw people under the bus no problem. Not sure how well Miles will take it.

As for the scenes in the "chambers", they had all that kind of stuff in the first series too. Not noticed much change tbh.
 
They now do get told, it's shown in the spin off show on bbc2, presented by Ed Gamble.
As Cally said there's a spin off show on BBC2 which shows all that kind of stuff (the first couple dead were told the day after). It is also on BBC Sounds but obviously there you can't see the reactions, only hear what they say.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p0h0q056

They have 15 minute bonus segments just for BBC Sounds but not listened to the bonus segment yet so don't know how spoilery it is. They did talk about
finding out about Diane and Ross when Diane sent a picture to Aubrey on whatsapp over Christmas of the two together and he didn't make the link, he just thought Ross was visiting :lol:

Ah nice one guys. Will have to watch that too then.
 
Why were people saying ‘I’m voting for you Sonja but I really hope you’re not. Diane even celebrated fists in the air when Sonja revealed she was a faithful. Have they forgotten the whole point of the game? :lol:
 
I loved when that guy whose name I can't remember declined to defend himself. I'm not even sure I'd seen him before, then someone says he's sus, and he could hardly care less.

That Paul guy is a bit of a dose.
 
Why were people saying ‘I’m voting for you Sonja but I really hope you’re not. Diane even celebrated fists in the air when Sonja revealed she was a faithful. Have they forgotten the whole point of the game? :lol:
They do it in almost every series there is I think, it is a really weird way to talk about someone you're voting off because you believe they are a traitor though.
 
Why were people saying ‘I’m voting for you Sonja but I really hope you’re not. Diane even celebrated fists in the air when Sonja revealed she was a faithful. Have they forgotten the whole point of the game? :lol:
That's brought up in episode 3
 
Why were people saying ‘I’m voting for you Sonja but I really hope you’re not. Diane even celebrated fists in the air when Sonja revealed she was a faithful. Have they forgotten the whole point of the game? :lol:

That's mostly just herd mentality and understandable. They voted for Sonja because it looked like other people were, they had no idea who are the traitors and in fairness how could they that early on, so they voted for her without much clue but because they thought she was likable they were hoping to be wrong, fat good it would do at that point.

Diane cheered because she was proven to be right about Sonja. She forgot it was a bad thing in that instant but they discussed it further in ep 3
 
Just started watching this and am hooked. The evil feckery is awesome.

Maybe I might have another go at Caf WW as I've struggled to understand it when I've tried in the past.
 
Thought the uncloaked episode might have shown extra footage from the round table or the traitors discussions but they were mostly reminders. The only extra clip seemed to be the first murder/banishment finding out who they were. On that:

Aubrey probably the wrong murder in hindsight. He didn't suspect any of them despite being confident he knew who they were. I think he'd have been a strong voice so would likely have convinced others to vote for the wrong players.
 
Thought the uncloaked episode might have shown extra footage from the round table or the traitors discussions but they were mostly reminders. The only extra clip seemed to be the first murder/banishment finding out who they were. On that:

Aubrey probably the wrong murder in hindsight. He didn't suspect any of them despite being confident he knew who they were. I think he'd have been a strong voice so would likely have convinced others to vote for the wrong players.

You could tell he was one of those people who would be confidently wrong about stuff.
 
You could tell he was one of those people who would be confidently wrong about stuff.

He was a bit daft saying how inquisitive he is and he'll find the traitors. Just stuck a target on his back.
Then he said the traitors made a mistake in getting rid of him :lol:
 
He was a bit daft saying how inquisitive he is and he'll find the traitors. Just stuck a target on his back.
Then he said the traitors made a mistake in getting rid of him :lol:

You basically need to act stupid in this game until you're at least close to the end or have allies you trust aren't traitors.

There probably needs to be something that protects the 'better' players as otherwise you always end up in a dumb dumbs vs smart traitors scenario (See Aus season 2).
 
You basically need to act stupid in this game until you're at least close to the end or have allies you trust aren't traitors.

There probably needs to be something that protects the 'better' players as otherwise you always end up in a dumb dumbs vs smart traitors scenario (See Aus season 2).

Agreed. Here's another takeaway annoyance...

Why the feck are Faithful admitting to having shields? Why wouldn't you keep quiet? That scarecrow challenge the two that got them could/should have kept quiet. I don't think anyone would have noticed finding them and why would a Traitor keep quiet about having a shield anyway?
 
Agreed. Here's another takeaway annoyance...

Why the feck are Faithful admitting to having shields? Why wouldn't you keep quiet? That scarecrow challenge the two that got them could/should have kept quiet. I don't think anyone would have noticed finding them and why would a Traitor keep quiet about having a shield anyway?

If I was a traitor who was on a team with someone who got a shield, and we kept it quiet. I'd think of potentially choosing them to 'murder', knowing it won't go through. That person with the shield can then realise they were the target the next day and hopefully also deduce that the people on your team (you and maybe someone else) are surely not traitors because they knew they had the shield.

Probably over-complicated and would need to be later game as some would wonder why you're still alive as a safelisted player but still.
 
You basically need to act stupid in this game until you're at least close to the end or have allies you trust aren't traitors.

There probably needs to be something that protects the 'better' players as otherwise you always end up in a dumb dumbs vs smart traitors scenario (See Aus season 2).
Remember Meryl? Worst player ever.