Now, does anyone have the balls to go after a potentially unpicked GOAT?
The Third Redcafe Sheep Draft
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ah. @Enigma_87 got in there first. Good luck to ye
Cheeky fecker with that delete @mazhar13 you rode the coat tails of my genius for too long.
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Crack it on tards. Let's get the sheep's out.
Crack it on tards. Let's get the sheep's out.
I hope so, Lucky Luke.
@Stobzilla thanks mate!
How could I forget ?
I wouldn't beat myself up until the full list is revealed. I can think of three, maybe four players I could have gambled on here with a realistic chance of landing 'em. But those names could very easily be among the ones picked by the others who passed. Beyond those, it would have been a sheer lottery.
At the end of the day, though, it's mostly about making it interesting for yourself - there aren't that many of the GOAT-ish players available in this round I'd want to, say, build a team around. Not because they're lacking in any way as footballers - but because they're lacking in terms of novelty value for me personally.
I'm going left field in this one - had to after that Pelé debacle.
That said, who knows if we even get to keep the players we draft...
I fondly remember the meltdowns last time round.
I fondly remember the meltdowns last time round.
I wouldn't mind it if @Gio introduced this round at some point in the future, to be honest. I wouldn't mind some of the mix-ups that would occur.
ffs only one went for Puskas, i hate you @Tuppet muppet
Are the real GOAT's like Maradona, Messi and Pele Etc. Slightly underrated in drafts?
Like, in the 40's draft, whilst it is pretty much accepted Pele would feck shit up in the final, for some reason there was almost zero talk about his impact on the game. In fact, it was almost as if the game was being played without him actually playing being taken into account. It seems to happen a bit in games where their impact is a formality and they don't sway the result or the direction of the game as much as they should.
Like, in the 40's draft, whilst it is pretty much accepted Pele would feck shit up in the final, for some reason there was almost zero talk about his impact on the game. In fact, it was almost as if the game was being played without him actually playing being taken into account. It seems to happen a bit in games where their impact is a formality and they don't sway the result or the direction of the game as much as they should.
It is, as @antohan would say, a tactic to detract the focus on those GOAT's and put greater focus on other players. In the recent final, @Joga Bonito did a great job taking the shift away from Pele and putting it on Anczok, Ball, and the midfield battle. Pele + Gerd Muller is insane in itself, but Joga did a great job in making that unnoticeable.
Yeah I think Pele was a little under-rated - he got knocked out twice(?).
I know, its what I thought. The best guy on the pitch in every single match up and he seemed to get ignored every single round.
@mazhar13 I understand the tactic from an opponents point of view. What I don't understand is the lack of explanation from the person with the player and the neutral in the discussion.
I didn't even take it as far as I originally planned to.
You just get tired sometimes arguing with certain people about certain things.
Again, it goes back to what the focus is on. Joga focused on Ball and Carlos Alberto vs. Anczok. He also focused on Gerson + Clodoaldo vs. Ball, Wimmer, and Netzer. Those two key arguments forced Gio to go on the defensive about Anczok, Gerson, and Clodoaldo, and it made him retaliate by focusing on Joga's own weak points. Plus, the fact that Pele and Gerd Muller are GOAT's meant that he took them for granted when he probably should have focused more on them.
Pick sent, I think all of the managers with failed picks are online, let's get it done early.
There's not much you can do, really, other than pointing out that he's - you know - him.
I think part of the problem for both me and Gio/Theon was that we had him starring in something very much like his familiar '70 role. And that role has been discussed to death on here - there's not much to be said beyond: "Yeah, he's playing the '70 role - you know, bringing it all together and whatnot. Plus, he can score goals - and that. And - oh yeah - he's like the best player ever. Sort of."
It becomes some sort of bizarre negative, almost - in the sense that if you don't get people on board with the idea, there isn't all that much you can do to argue effectively for it. There isn't anything very intelligent to say about it - whereas you can come up with all manner of intricate arguments in favour of something (or someone) more obscure and less dissected.
It's like defending Shakespeare or Mozart against some other brilliant, but not quite so over-praised and discussed artist. Difficult.
I knew the tag would come in handy
@Stobzilla sorry buddy, @Enigma_87 would like me to help him and he says he's a draft newbie.
You'll never forget that, would you @green_smiley? 
What happened in that draft?
Oh dear, I should have gone with my original first choice.
Hi Five!
ROUND 1, STAGE 2: RESULTS
ROUND ONE, STAGE TWO: RESULTS
Joga Bonita - PASS
Cal? - PASS
Tuppet - FAIL (Albert)
Isotope - PASS
Edgar Allan Pillow - PASS
Invictus/KM - PASS
Sjor Bepo - FAIL (Albert)
Marty1968/bleezy - FAIL (Albert)
BLOCKED LIST: Puskas, Bozsik, Savicevic, Albert.
@Tuppet
@Šjor Bepo
@Marty1968 @bleezy
Your next pick must be from Hungary.
You have 12 hours.
Joga Bonita - PASS
Cal? - PASS
Tuppet - FAIL (Albert)
Isotope - PASS
Edgar Allan Pillow - PASS
Invictus/KM - PASS
Sjor Bepo - FAIL (Albert)
Marty1968/bleezy - FAIL (Albert)
BLOCKED LIST: Puskas, Bozsik, Savicevic, Albert.
@Tuppet
@Šjor Bepo
@Marty1968 @bleezy
Your next pick must be from Hungary.
You have 12 hours.
Great stuff
Thats a relief.