The Tennis Thread

Not a bad performance then by Fish to at least take a set of Fed, think all the big names were a tad tired from last weeks effort, they'll be pumped for the Major.

He did well, Fish. It was a strange match. Not one break of serve till the penultimate game of the match.

Neither ever looked like breaking the other. They were mainly winning points of the 1st serve, the rallies were not long and not too special. Poor tournament really.

I think the players struggle a bit adapting to the much faster Cincinnati surface after playing at Montreal before this.
 
Just checked the stats for this thread:

No. of posts

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The next highest is Raoul,jojojo and pillory level on 7 a piece. :lol:
 
He obviously likes tennis, for a lot of us, we only care when it's the slams, and even more for just 2 weeks when it's Wimbledon
 
So what odds on Federer avoiding Murray in his half as usual and getting the joke that is Djokovich?
 
I was right.

Nadal AGAIN got Murray in his half while Fed gets away with getting Djokovich again. :lol:

It's a joke really how Fed always manages to avoid Murray and get the easier draw in Djokovich.

Fed also avoided having Baghdatis, Roddick and Fish who are in Djoko's quarter. Only hard opponent Fed has is Soderling and even he's been shit since the French Open
 
Nadal
Nadal's draw is not all that great :
Round1: Gabshivali
Round 2: Istomin
Round 3: Kohschreiber
Round 4: Ljubicic in R4
Round 5: Gulbis or Nalbandian
Semis: Murray or Berdych in SF

Federer
1st Round: Dabul
2nd Round: Beck or Berrer
3rd Round : Hewitt or Mayer
4th Round: Ferrero or Melzer
5th Round: Cilic or Soderling
Semis: Joke-o-vich Probably

Murray

1st Round: Lacko
2nd Round: Brown or Hidalgo
3rd Round: Wawrinka or Chela
4th Round: Quererry or Almagro
5th Round: Berdych/Stepanke/Youzny/Isner
Semis: Nadal or Gulbis

Djokovich

1st Round: Troicki
2nd Round: Petz (guy who took Nadal to 5 sets in Wimbledon)
3rd Round: Blake or Monaco
4th Round: Baggy or Fish
5th Round: Roddick/Monfils/Davy
Semis: Fed/Soderling

Quarters, Semis are both very difficult on these courts for Nadal.
On any other surface (clay and grass) he would have made the final but on these courts that's hard.If he can get to the semi's murray's going to eat him up.

That being said Murray has Berdych to face before the semi's so that could really go against him.

Fed really has a very very easy draw compared to Nadal and Murray
Murray and Djokovich have very hard draws.

Fed's only real threat could be Soderling and even he's gone off the boil so his first real test should be in the semis.

Fed should make it to the finals.

Can see a Fed vs Murray/Berdych final.
 
Poor Djokovic, someone up there really hates him :lol: Another tough draw for him again.

Seriously. His is the most disastrous draw anyone can get :lol:

If he somehow makes it to the semis Federer will kill him. He might as well skip this tournament :lol:
 
"My name is Rafael Nadal Parera, commander of my legions of fans, general of the sport of tennis, loyal servant to my coach and uncle Toni, son to Sebastián and Ana María, and I will always be avenged, in this set or the next."

Apologies to Russell Crowe, but right now in the world of sport, Rafa Nadal is the gladiator. On court he plays like one. Off court it's as though he keeps a copy of Rudyard Kipling's If in his tennis bag. What an impressive young man he is.

Reputations of sports stars have recently been falling asunder almost by the day. First there was Tiger Woods, whose private life came apart and, by his standards, his game too. We have had the Pakistan fiasco which has put the very sport of cricket in jeopardy.

Wayne Rooney has followed John Terry and Peter Crouch into the tabloids and apparently three other top footballers would be joining them if it were not for some clever legal work.

Former world boxing champion Ricky Hatton is in rehab with drink and drug problems and current world champion David Haye's crass "gang rape" remark at the press conference for his forthcoming fight beggared belief.

In addition, the reputation of John Higgins, the former world snooker champion, was delivered a blow last week as he was fined and suspended by the sport's governing body for a lack of judgment after being caught in a newspaper sting.

Sporting role models are becoming a little thin on the ground. But at least we have Nadal, who plays his sport like a man with a serious grudge, ignoring setbacks, always dealing with the next point as if his life depended on it but never without respect for his opponent.

Watching him in the early hours of last Tuesday, becoming only the seventh male player to complete the full set of tennis grand slams, I was again in awe of how he dealt magnificently with Novak Djokovic, who had beaten him in their three previous encounters and had ended Roger Federer's challenge in the semi-final and who at times played brilliantly himself.

While Nadal is such an irresistible force on court, off it he comes over as a shy, self-effacing individual who only has good things to say about everyone. A cynic might well think he is a clever professional paying lip service to those he needs to, just as Tiger used to do, but I genuinely believe Nadal is one good guy.

Witness his interview on court after dispensing with the Russian Mikhail Youzhny in the semi-final. American interviewer Mary Joe Fernandez was wittering on with her 'how did it feels' and 'what does it means' when Nadal stopped her in her tracks. "I would like to say something else," he said.

"I would just like to pay my respects to all the people who lost their lives in the Twin Towers." He had not been prompted to do so, but he had not forgotten he had been playing on Sept 11. It was delivered in a language in which he is not yet quite totally at home, but it was classy and very moving and, of course, the New Yorkers loved him for it.

Sky's coverage of the US Open was top notch. It was held together in relaxed fashion by Marcus Buckland. He got the best out of Greg Rusedski and Annabel Croft, who always had good opinions, while the commentary of Mark Petchey and Peter Fleming was nicely understated. Unlike many in the business, they know when to let the pictures speak for themselves.

Once again Andy Murray disappointed us and, more importantly, himself. He has wins against Federer, Djokovic and Nadal but not when it matters most. He is undoubtedly a great player, at times producing the kind of bespoke tennis that even those three, with 26 grand slam wins between them, cannot match, but if ever a man needed an able sports psychologist, it is the 23-year-old Scot, for whom time will soon be ringing alarm bells.

There are occasions, when things are not going his way, when he reminds me of Harry Enfield's character Kevin. Murray needs a more gladiatorial spirit and someone other than mum to put their armour around him.

Remember listening to that in the interview. Was very impressive to remember that and wish the families well. Great guy :D

It's good that there is one sport left where the star players have not disgraced themselves in some way or the other.
 
It's Time to Stop Rafael Nadal's Cheating

9/30/2010 6:48 PM ET By Greg Couch
National Columnist

Time to crack down on Rafael Nadal's cheating. That's right, he's cheating. Everyone knows it and no one seems to care.

Now, it's so openly accepted and forgiven that he apparently has even admitted to it. The Spanish newspaper El Pais asked him about looking to his coaches box during the final of the U.S. Open, when he beat Novak Djokovic, and Nadal reportedly said this:

"It was in the last game, when I was serving for the match. ... I didn't know where to serve. Down the center, to the middle or to try the classic play of the wide serve and then try to hit the forehand. They told me to serve wide and that's where I served."

They told him? It is against the rules to receive coaching during a match. Nadal knows it, too.

"The rules are the rules," he said at Wimbledon, when Toni Nadal, his uncle and coach, was fined $2,000 for coaching Rafa in a match. A few years ago, too, Roger Federer grumbled that Uncle Toni was trying to give advice from the stands.

It might not seem like a big deal, but it is. You see players doing it all the time in tennis, as this is its open secret. But it's still wrong.

I don't accept it, and neither should tennis' governing bodies. It is time to suspend Uncle Toni, boot him from a major tournament. And hit Nadal with a big fine.

Plenty of people, even within the game, think the better plan is to simply dump the rule. They are wrong. This is not the jaywalking of tennis rules. It is a basic tenet of the game, the guts of what tennis is about.

In fact, I would say it is the point of tennis: You are standing on a court alone, without help. You make the decisions, execute the shots. You are testing your body, your mind, your nerve.

Not your uncle's.

The coaches have their time, and it's before the match. At some point, the players have to be able to think on their own.

Sure, there is coaching in other sports, but that is about their culture. Tennis is a test of your individuality, a game played without help. In fact, when a player cramps up, in tennis he is not seen as hurt, but as unfit and unprepared physically.

It's about personal responsibility, not asking your uncle where to serve.

The problem is that this cheating has become so commonplace that it has been half-legislated. Players can be coached in the Davis Cup. And the women's tour allows a certain number of coaching visits, mostly as a TV gimmick. A coach puts on a mic and you get to hear him talk with the player.

But when the coaches come out to talk, it makes them look so weak, in need of a coach, usually a man, to hold their hands and explain what they should do.

Yuck. More than any other sport, women's tennis players have a chance to show young girls what a strong and independent woman can do. Yet Justine Henin cannot go two points without looking to her coaches box.

At this year's U.S. Open, I went to a girls junior semifinal match. It was American Sloane Stephens against Russian Daria Gavrilova, who is 16.
If officials make the mistake of dumping the rule, then they need to just do it. If the rule stays, then it has to be enforced. Have the rule or don't, but you can't have it both ways.
Gavrilova, who would win the match and the tournament, kept squinting over at her coach and her dad between points. I happened to be standing right behind them. A line judge would turn each time to see if he could catch any coaching going on. At one point, a tournament official came over and warned the father.

What I saw was this: Gavrilova was about to serve once, and looked over. She raised her fingers off her racquet's grip, her father nodded, and then she served-and-volleyed. A few points later, she stared over again, and a coach pointed his index finger to the sky.

She then hit three straight moonballs, lobs.

Look, Gavrilova cheated Stephens. And if Nadal, the No. 1 player in the world is going to blatantly do the same thing, then it's only going to send the message down the ranks.

"Sometimes in the past," Nadal said at Wimbledon, "Toni talks maybe too much. But not today in my opinion."

See, coaching has become one of those unaccepted, accepted broken rules. And that might be the problem with hitting Nadal too hard now. It's not fair when you suddenly enforce rules you have been winking at all along.

But worst of all is the way tennis handles this. If officials make the mistake of dumping the rule, then they need to just do it. If the rule stays, then it has to be enforced. Have the rule or don't, but you can't have it both ways.

What you have now is tennis' greatest warrior making us close one eye so he doesn't ruin the picture.

Email me at gregcouch09@aol.com; Follow me on Twitter @gregcouch

What do people think? Do you get annoyed when you see this? Or not give a toss?
 
No one gives a toss. It happens far too often anyway.

Nadal lost to some Garcia Lopez in the semis in Thailand after failing to convert TWENTY SIX (26!!) break points in a best of 3 match :lol:

Looks like he picked up where he left off in the USO final :D
 
If people think there is lot of knee jerking here you should read the BBC forums. Mindblowing stuff.

After his defeat to Lopez people over there are saying he's on the decline :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
What do people think? Do you get annoyed when you see this? Or not give a toss?

I don't see what's wrong with players being coached. It only makes them better. I don't see what's so valuable about having a sport where players aren't coached during a match. I think every player should have a feckin team of coaches. The only problem I see is that the rule is in place to begin with so it gives those who actually try to follow it a disadvantage.
 
Nadal through to the Japan oopen final to play Monfils.

Nadal had to save 2 match points vs Troicki in the semis to get there. He won 7-6 4-6 7-6.

Looks like Nadal has decided to go the Fed route. Not bother too much with the masters and other smaller tournaments while saving his best for the slams.

Murray lost in straight sets to Ljubicic at the China Open. He's really struggled this year.
 
Vamos Rafa :D

He won the Japan Open beating Monfils 6-1 7-5 in the final for this 7th(and least important) title of the year.

Shanghai starts tomorrow. Should be a good tournament. Hopefully Nadal can finally win a hard court Masters title.
 
Nadal and Djokovic as usual have been given absolute disaster draws at Shanghai.

Nadal will have Wawrinka or Simon in the 2nd round, Melzer or Fish (deadly) in the 3rd round and then either defending champ Davy or Verdasco in the quarters before Murray in the semis.

Surprise surprise Murray and Fed kept apart.

Djoko's draw is even more of a joke :lol:

First up Ljubicic, then Monfils and then either Roddick or Berdych in the quarters before Fed in the semis.

Federer and Murray have relative walkovers to the semis.

Should be a fun tournament.
 
Good win from Rafa this morning. Monfils must hate playing him.
 
Good win from Rafa this morning. Monfils must hate playing him.

The rest of the mens section "Likes" this. ;)

Djokovic Ferrer is just about to start. Should be fun.

Djokovic will probably win this in straight sets though.
 
Hope Djokovic can take the 3rd. First time he's taken a set off in ages (USO apart)
 
Yeah. Nothing new there is there? Same old Djoko. God knows what happened to him in New York? Must have been on drugs or something.
 
Djokovic and Federer matches must be one of the worst match-ups among the top 4, it's almost error strewn with both players playing like mugs.
 
Djokovic and Federer matches must be one of the worst match-ups among the top 4, it's almost error strewn with both players playing like mugs.

With Fed always winning one set 7-5.

I've lost count of the number of times Djoko has got to 5-5 and slipped up.
 
Well he looks at it once in a while during the match. He always seems to have some injury though to blame.

A break down in the final set now is Murray. It's been the story of his season.
 
And he's out.

Monfils through to play Fed so he's out as well.

Federer really will not get a better chance to win a masters series title this year. No Nadal (did not participate), no Murray and Djoko who're both out now.

He faces Monfils in the semis and then Soderling/Llodra in the finals. Piece of cake for him.
 
Fed had a break in the final set but Monfils broke back. First person to break Fed this week.
 
Monfils did :eek:

Epic win over Fed! 3rd set tie break. He wins 7-6 6-7 7-6!

Third 3 set epic he's played in the last 3 days. Fed was woeful in the final set tiebreak. Absolutely woeful.

Soderling vs Monfils in the final. Come on Gael!