Ah, makes sense, cheers.
The Telegraph: The Secrets of Uniteds Summer Rebuild
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We'll probably never know. It's a great line... also pretty bulletproof... "here's some vague information about mistakes we didn't make"!
I hate these fluff articles about changing culture etc, let’s see who we are looking to buy, that’s all I’m interested in.
The action only starts when Joel Glazer starts up in the morning, link below explains in detail how the Glazers do thangs Florida style;
more importantly want to know to see how right or wrong that decision was. De Bruyne, anyone? Kroos? Maradona?
And me. woodward was an egotist and would make all the decisions regardless what others think, I would guess.
Woodward should be banned from OT. The damage caused by his profligacy and decision making, will reverberate around the club for years.
This is a great thread for highlighting the only-here-to-whinge element on this forum.
Yeah, this just seems like a dumb thing to brief about. Evokes De Ligt’s porky Papa, but at least Marcel Bout is no longer at the club to bring those keen insights.
Depends what checks and balances we’re going to apply now and does sort of seem to that the current squad is full of players who wouldn’t meet these checks and balances.
Still, I’m hoping the stars are aligning a little bit for us now. I was always a bit wary of just heaping the blame on Woodward but I’m beginning to be more convinced that he really did botch the job at many levels and where no amount of Noodle sponsorships can make amends.
However much the Glazers are leaches on the club, with the money we’ve used in the last 10 years, a well run club would be challenging City and Liverpool right now.
I’m in the time will tell group, I appreciate the cynicism but have to live in hope as a fan. I like Ten Hag from what I’ve seen of him and Arnold/Murtaugh could be an upgrade on Woodward. Cause for mild optimism even with the sour taste of this season still lingering.
Absolutely agree. All I picked from that media fluff piece is, that we are being led by a bunch of korn ferries.
We will have to see but knowing mc first hand, I tend to have doubts as well. But we dont have much details to be fair
He had the Glazers allowing him to do so as well
Simple secret to better recruitments: get those really good players in double quick time. We were so embarrassing slow far too many times.
Those really good players like Angel Di Maria? That worked out great.
Good recruitment isn’t just getting the 11 best players.
It's a hell of a start though
Very understandable that the fans here are doubtful about these changes and potential impact. But new CEO and new manager. I'm hopeful and optimistic until it's not. No other way to enjoy the coming seasons without that hope.
They do and you are 100% right to be cynical. That said I have not seen this energy from the club in many a year. A lot of tosh and nonsense from Woodward but never anything challenging the defacto structure within the club.
Maybe I live in hope but a lot of these changes we are seeing will only bear fruit in future months and transfer windows. if and it's a BIG IF these changes are true, I hope the fans have patience and also the people running the ship have patience and not return to this short term shotgun approach.
Not really. Hopefully with a manager that has a clear vision and style like Ten Hag we'll be going for the right players, those who fit his style, rather than the best players.
Let’s see if their actions match up their talk.
"rooting out survivor culture"
What does it entail?
What does it entail?
i assume getting rid of people who linger at the club without merit
No more survivor culture. If that means no more extensions to players like Jones then great.
Have you seen their website?
If you haven’t, don’t. Unless you have a strong constitution.
The app wouldnt account for the maltesers Shaw frequently sneaks in.
Well, that can't be right.
Ralf R called out some poor decisions and also pointed out specific issues with the dressing room (problem players like Lingard and Martial)....and he lost his job as a consultant.
IMO, nothing has changed. The aim is top 4 and to attain this, we shall spend big, buy big names to sell shirts, pay huge wages and if things go wrong on the pitch, the manager will be fired.
The player attitudes this past season were the worst we have seen in decades and before any player got shipped out, the manager got fired from his new consultant position. Player power remains and I fully expect to see a new manager in approximately 3 years.
I can't believe how negative I have become, but that's how I see things now.
They'll buy players and spend big money. Trust me.
The problem is that they won't dispose of the deadwood, because the wages are too high and the players are too crap. about 75% of the players need to be ejected, but the club will do everything possible to hang onto them.
Oh I do so long for the days when the press were impartial and weren't just tools for the minority.
Oh wait...
Oh wait...
I don't expect any changes right now this minute but all this briefing about getting consultants in smacks of PR guff - the type we have seen before.
Not that long ago Ralf was going to light the path and instil a new ethos into the side and now he's out on his ear and we are starting again.
Of course it's PR. Articles like this don't get written just because a journo fancies cheering United fans up a bit. It's leaked to them by the club to quieten discontent and let everybody know that they're super cereal this time about getting it right.
Incidentally, I have to say that personally I think it'd be far worse to live in a constant cycle of false hope and crushing disappointment for nine straight years. I don't blame anyone for being apathetic after going through this same song and dance every summer for so long. I know I'm sure sick to the back teeth of hearing about "next season" and "rebuilding" every November-ish when it becomes clear that nothing's changed again and the team is still miles off challenging. Maybe it'll be different this time, but I'll let you get your hopes up for that. I can be happy later if it proves to be more than just words.
Seems we are doing the right thing on the back end. let see where we are at the end of the summer. I don’t expect us to spend a lot since we failed to qualify for champions league, but I expect us to at least get a few good players in that can strengthen upon what we already have here. I will be content with Frankie de Jong, antony and (rice/neves/ boussouma or a rb) this summer. That is a very solid foundation to work on especially if we are to get martial back and rashford back to his best form.
Best and worst of the States wrapped into one, single solitary shitshow.
Straight out the Woody playbook. Shite season + owners taking a nice dividend = spoon feeding the fans what they want to hear via the press.
We don't want to read whats happening anymore, we want to see results ffs.
Hardly a secret either if someone is briefing the press.
We don't want to read whats happening anymore, we want to see results ffs.
Hardly a secret either if someone is briefing the press.
I would love to give Murtagh the benefit of the doubt, and the club. If there are these changes, I’m excited, because they are doing SOMETHING. On the other hand, why leak to a journalist to do a puff piece? Especially the Korn Ferry shite. Who cares who the head hunters are? By the way, if you’ve ever worked with headhunters, you know they are pretty shit at getting the right person for the job.
I hope that this means change, but a bit nervous that they don’t have football people in place who are saying, “get this guy, he’s/ she’s bloody nails, will die to do their job.” I dunno, I always wanted the final say on all of my hires and resented the external pressure for a head hunter team that had no idea how I worked. On the other hand, you do need dissenting voices in the team.
I worry that the leadership at the board level is so weak that unless we get a true SAF, bigger than life personality in the manager’s seat, we’ll always be a cover your ass, consensus driven organization. In some ways, I see a guy like Conte being a perfect fit, but then again LvG and Jose failed, so…
Woody was always trying to bring in the impossible transfer, for PR reasons. Hoping we are strategic with our transfers and make buys that are under the radar but fill team needs where we were previously deficient (DM).
Do people actually believe this crap, as in - if true - it's actually going to fix anything?
As long as the Glazers are the owners the only thing we can hope for is they'll fluke-hire the next SAF. Which I doubt will ever happen.
Changes will happen when the Glazers die out and their kids ( who hopefully care even less about the club) cash out.
As long as the Glazers are the owners the only thing we can hope for is they'll fluke-hire the next SAF. Which I doubt will ever happen.
Changes will happen when the Glazers die out and their kids ( who hopefully care even less about the club) cash out.
Yes it's way overused and tired isn't it?
The Tories used it a lot when explaining their response to COVID back in 2020.
Need a new scriptwriter.
This is speculation, but Ralf was let go because he failed to achieve top 4, he alienated the board with his comments, he was poor tactically (enough that he had to rely on a Russia based coach), criticized the players openly, and had poor pre match preparation and failed to resolve dressing room issues and squad cliques.
If anything, sacking Ralf and recognizing a mistake and addressing it quickly makes me optimistic. United fans laugh at Real for having a notoriously short leash on managerial appointments, but, hell, they’ve won 21% of all European Cup/CL titles… I do believe that times have changed and we cannot wait for signs of success. Big clubs like United have big aspirations and we should see progress quickly.
Woodward was a great marketer and played a great role in improving our revenue and allowing us to spend £100+ a year. He just couldn’t see that he wasn’t a football man, didn’t have the respect, personality , knowledge to rule in that side of things.