His point probably is that we are punching well above our current weight, I don't see why that would cause such OTT responses?
Some of the posts in this thread are a bit strange considering G&G was still prominent just last year.
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His point probably is that we are punching well above our current weight, I don't see why that would cause such OTT responses?
Some of the posts in this thread are a bit strange considering G&G was still prominent just last year.
I keep seeing him making that point though and I'm not sure what he wants people to say?
The response to any criticism is to meniton net spend and the new stadium. When push comes to shove Spurs will be judged on trophies just like everyone else.
The main difference being the depth of backup. Apart from Arsenal and Lpool most teams are adequate at the back when rotating. Spurs just become a whole different team.
Yeah I'd expect us to play our strongest team on Tuesday.
Well when part of your centre back combination is one of the best CB's in the league, then of course they will suffer when one or both are injured.
Funnily enough, Wimmer actually played quite well when called upon last season but he has struggled a-bit this season.
That's partially because of the quality of our first-choice centre backs which imo are the best (or certainly on par with the best) in the league so it's a more obvious dip in quality when our back-up centre backs play. Mind you, it is true that our 'second team' aint looking too strong right now but many of them are young and inexperienced so I guess we are hoping on them improving.
A bit? He's not been impressive. Do you feel like he's sufficient backup with the rotational injuries with Ald and Ver?
But ... Having such strong (and I really think, Spurs have the best in all of the PL) defensive four, but having sub par backups which are costly (especially when playing in four competitions) must really seem frustrating?
He was very good last year but has looked very rusty and off the pace this season so far - imo it's because he hasn't actually had the chance to play regularly in the first team for over 6 months or so. He has shown in the past he can be good enough so I'm hoping with another couple of games under his belt he can get to where he needs to be.
I can't say I follow his career that closely and maybe he has been atrocious, but when I've seen him, he's been poor and struggled but he hasn't looked completely woeful.
He definitely looked a talented, adequate backup last season, though.
Don't remember him from last season, so I'll take your word for it. It's just that if I was a Spurs supporter, I'd be worried about another long term injury for Lamela, and the constant injury going on rotation in the central defence. Your full back depth is amazing though. Really like the prospects of Carter-Wickers and Trippier
I guess maybe it is - although Wimmer is good enough to be decent cover as he proved last year, he just looks rusty and off the pace this season so far. Not many clubs can have top quality back-ups in their squad in any position if they are not guaranteed to start every game. The clubs that can attract a very good level of 'back-up' player tend to pay big wages to keep them happy and we are not in that position at the moment so we rely on younger players to fill in. Sometimes it pays off (Winks is a good example) and other times it leaves us a bit short if we get injuries but that's the risk you take.
There is no argument. There is just the simple point that £400m is a significant proportion of £2 billion and is thus not (contrary to what was claimed earlier in this thread) a "completely irrelevant" sum.
I've no idea why you seem to want to dispute this simple point ... except you always seek to dispute pretty much anything I say just for the sake of it. In other words, you are one of the small band of posters who jump in on virtually every post I make and invade every thread concerned with your endless and pre-determined antagonism.
...stop making absurd statements then. Your idiocy concerning our financial status has been well documented.
I don't have a problem. I merely posted the figures for net spend on transfers for the last 5 years for the top 6 clubs. Then in response to this simple statement of facts, a variety of attacks come flooding in. So I conclude from this that some other posters have the problem.
What absurd statement?
I think they'll definitely come in the top 4. Consistent.
I was told last summer on here that Spurs had little chance of top 4 (see the voting results atop this thread) because we didn't splash the cash on new first XI players, whilst the likes of United, City, Chelski etc were spending big. I was also told that Spurs had "over-performed", whilst United, City (etc.) had all "under-performed".
I responded then by saying that our young squad would, of its own natural accord, improve further compared to last season, that our first XI didn't especially need improving, and that plugging some squad gaps was more important. And here we sit now, well in contention for top 4.
So I'm content to let the usual suspects once again go down the 'galatico' route, whilst Spurs continue with their own way forward. This means we won't necessarily have to go for anyone this summer, and could just allow the existing young squad to improve further of its own accord, whilst bringing in 1 or two additional academy players into the senior squad.
However, if Janssen has not begun to score from open play by the season end, then I think we might well look for a new back-up striker for Kane.
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* Spurs: extremely low net spend (almost zero as an annual average) + have improved season by season for the last 3 years + lowest wages bill by far of all top 6.
* Some of the other clubs in current top 6: very high net spend + very high wages bill + footballing decline.
You can draw your own conclusions ...
Agreed. I still think you need to find another player of the caliber of Kane, Alli, Eriksen so you can rotate them round a bit more.
Why don't you address the rest of the post? Or indeed my previous post?
Your cowardly style of debating is tragic.
If you're going to spend your life arguing on RedCafe, at least have the courage of your convictions to argue against points put to you.
In the last 3 years,
Spurs - won feck all.
ManUtd - won FA cup
Leicester - won Premier League
Arsenal - Won 2 FA cups
My feeling is you guys need an out-and-out winger. Yes, Lamela is injured and the full-backs usually provide width, but there really is no one with pace and trickery on the flanks, especially on the left.
Son can be Kane's deputy if Janssen doesn't work out.
Unless the idea is that United have been spending beyond their means, net spend on transfers specifically is irrelevant. You spend (heavily if needed) in one area and recoup the investment elsewhere, there's nothing very extraordinary about that.
I'm sorry, what? What is your point exactly? That Levi is doing a good job? Pochettino? Why the comparison with united? They did better than you in 2 of the last 3 seasons, won more trophies than you, have two or three of the biggest talents around on their team, Zlatan, and an infinite supply of cash. I'd say they are in a better position than you lot, if for no other reason that if they wanted to, they could sign anyone of your players. You have to keep finding young talents while hoping to keep your team intact. They can buy ready-made world class players, and are not worried about keeping their stars
Opened can worms and all that.
Aye, it's bullshit anyway, they don't sell to the big English clubs anymore. I think most United fans would agree, last time they did was what? Berbatov? That was almost 9 years ago.
But it's true. If united decided to sign Kane, they'd offer him £300/400k a week, give spurs £100/120M and they'd sign him. Now, of course none of that is gonna happen. Point is, it could
You on the other hand act as if you are the only objective person on this forum regarding Spurs. You pretty much big them up and when someone points otherwise, it's because we don't like new kids on the block.
No one here dislikes Spurs and yes there is a rivalry for top 4 between United and the rest of the top 6 teams, but the amount of nonsense you hear from some of the Spur's fans about United's decline will obviously rub posters here the wrong way. But you gladly turn a blind eye to all that wumming by Glaston. I half doubt that you are a closet Spurs fan.
As much as I enjoy all this animosity, I don't quite get it.
If another team promoted and trusted youth, low net spend, invested in facilities and so on whilst punching above their weight many here would applaud that club. Swansea and Southampton are recent examples. But if a club takes another step up they are suddenly a shit club since they haven't won anything, and will collapse since one of the richest clubs can splash cash on some of their players or some other reason.
If another team promoted and trusted youth, low net spend, invested in facilities and so on whilst punching above their weight many here would applaud that club. Swansea and Southampton are recent examples. But if a club takes another step up they are suddenly a shit club since they haven't won anything, and will collapse since one of the richest clubs can splash cash on some of their players or some other reason.
Laugh now, but we won't be when they win the Premun League with the lowest net spend in history.
Few have an issue with Spurs that I can see. I've always liked them myself. Any animosity comes from one or two posters who continually put down Man United to big up their club. Obviously that's not going to go down well on a Man United forum.
I can understand that, although I also understand people who would like to gloat at doing better than Manchester United, considering where you have been. In any case, it's an interesting period to support both clubs at the moment, lots of if's surrounding both clubs.
Nah I just think this forum (the football side) has gone to the dogs since Sir Alex retired. A bump in the road and a decline in form and the majority of posters can't handle it and instead post all manners of shite. Fact is we have been on a decline, that isn't opinion that's a fact and some simply can't take our current position. It's also a fact that since our decline Tottenham have improved, you can see this by their points and significant change in goal difference.
For what it's worth, i'll always defend rival posters on the Caf because I enjoy talking to them and they're a needed resource on the Caf, it's one of the reasons why it's such a good forum. I have no issue with them saying what they like in their own threads, it's their platform to talk how they like and if that includes wumming then so be it. They get enough shit thrown their way as is (including Glaston).
fwiw, that last sentence in your post sums up the attitude on the Caf over the last few years. Grow up.
I'd go bigger than that and say it's an interesting period in the Premier League, not just Spurs and United. It's not beyond the realms of insanity to suggest that Everton aren't too far away either.
This is a kind of terrible thread to be objective about spurs really. Its just a lightning rod for ... I dunno.
I cant help but laugh at net spend leagues, RAWK has trained me too well. There's plenty of ridiculous united supporters too, dont get me wrong.
I quite like Son anyway and Erikken has been brilliant every time i've seen them
No, the animosity comes because Spurs are the new kid on the block, upsetting the established order. And those in the old order naturally don't like it. They want to be able to cling onto the old certainties.
And let's look at this claim of "continually putting down Man United to big up their club" ....
In the latest example of this alleged "putting down of United" I posted a list of the top 6 clubs' net transfer spend over the last 5 years. It wasn't a list that just included United, it also included Liverpool, Chelski etc etc. But the usual suspects, mostly the same small band of paranoid and antagonistic United fans/keyboard warriors, come diving in to try and pick fights ... as if the original post had singled out United, and as if pointing out - in a thread about Spurs - the amazingly low net spend of Spurs merely represents something to be criticised and pulled down at all costs and from all angles of possible attack.
The tenor of such attacks is usually laced liberally with desperate comments about how big a club United are, or how much money United have, or how they can supposedly sign any Spurs player they want when they want. And if any of these points is responded to by myself or another Spurs fan, it then conveniently becomes part of the "putting down United" mythology ... never mind that United fans may have sparked it all in the first place.
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