Naah, too much money in the PL now. A top PL club doesn't need the money badly enough to sell its best assets especially when you consider that Kane and Alli's worth will only go north and they're both English which means a lot of extra income once the Rooney fades away and passes the mantle.
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Naah, too much money in the PL now. A top PL club doesn't need the money badly enough to sell its best assets especially when you consider that Kane and Alli's worth will only go north and they're both English which means a lot of extra income once the Rooney fades away and passes the mantle.
It would have to be A LOT of money.
You're not buying the just player from Levy.
You're buying the ad revenue, image rights revenue, potential season tickets revenue, potential ad revenue for a stadium, kit revenue, kit sponsor revenue, etc. That all want to be associated with the top young goal scoring English talents like Kane and Alli.
That's what young English players are worth now a days and someone would have to absolutely smash the transfer record to make Levy even listen let alone acquiesce.
If someone is stupid he is just stupid. Small time supporters.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...der-Hector-Bellerin-swears-Tottenham-fan.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...der-Hector-Bellerin-swears-Tottenham-fan.html
While "absolutely smashing the transfer record" is a gross exaggeration on your part, I do concede that vast sums of money will be required in order to make these supposed transfers a reality. If Massa' Levy's history is anything to go by at least.
Why did Spurs play in a friendly today?
Kane and Son scored again in a 1-4 away win.
Kane and Son scored again in a 1-4 away win.
££££
But lads, it's Spurs?
I would tell Levy to get fecked if I were the players. In fact, with the next batch of international games eating into June, they will get feck all time off before they're due back.
Yep, we are cashing in on Son basically being the Beckham of Asian football.
And if the friendly in Hong Kong wasn't enough, we sent Son, Wimmer, Davies and Walker to Seoul beforehand for a bunch of fan events.
Yep ... all tied in with announcing an extended and improved shirt sponsor deal with AIA, who are big in Asia.
The vultures are circling, going to be a long summer.
It's the same every year tbh.
It must be very frustrating, unfortunately players have too much power.
In fairness to Rose & Walker neither are Spurs fans and when something is offering you a huge wage increase and will be closer to home its hard to turn down.
It is frustrating however when you actually look at it - 99% of the rumours never come to anything and generally it has been quite rare that we have sold a player we didnt want to sell. Having said that, from what I have been told Walker is 100% leaving. Rose absolutely loves Poch so I doubt he is looking to leave (also he has just had surgery) - Dier also I do not expect to leave.
What is frustrating is not the transfers when they happen, it is the constant rumours in the media which turn out to have been total nonsense that annoy me. It is just done to unsettle players and the club to try and increase site views.
"Tottenham Hotspur have been revealed as one of the most valuable football clubs in Europe and are closing in on the likes of Liverpool after ousting French giants PSG from a top ten list.
The club have an Enterprise Value (EV) of €1.011bn - the 10th highest valuation on the continent. That’s according to the latest KPMG Football Clubs’ Valuation report, which uses EV to fairly compare what clubs are worth regardless of the structure used to finance their operations."
http://www.football.london/tottenham-hotspur-fc/news/spurs-closing-liverpool-oust-psg-13116846
The club have an Enterprise Value (EV) of €1.011bn - the 10th highest valuation on the continent. That’s according to the latest KPMG Football Clubs’ Valuation report, which uses EV to fairly compare what clubs are worth regardless of the structure used to finance their operations."
http://www.football.london/tottenham-hotspur-fc/news/spurs-closing-liverpool-oust-psg-13116846
Hopes for the summer window?
Sessengnon and possibly Barkley with perhaps another forward and/or an attacker with pace in wide positions.
* Keep the current squad largely together, bar 2 or maybe 3 departures.
* See Lamela, Rose and Harry Winks all back in full training for next season.
* Sign a highly-rated youngster as one for the future - Sessegnon would be ideal.
* Sign an exciting, more established player as competition for the attacking midfield slots - Thomas Lemar would be ideal.
* Introduce 2 or 3 more academy players into the first team squad - maybe Marcus Edwards, Kyle Walker-Peters and Filip Lesniak.
* Be able to sell - and get decent price for - Sissoko.
Silly if true. I think this is the summer where Spurs need to make a marquee signing or two, to show Poch and the players of the club's direction and ambition. Anything less, i don't see them moving forward in 17/18 and face an exodus of players seeking to win some silverwares.
Well if we can sell Sissoko and get maybe £20 million back for him then you could see us spend relatively big again if the right player became available. I think we have certain targets and areas of the squad we want to improve but if we are being honest, to buy a player who could come straight into the first team and improve on what we already have would be likely outside of our budget - remember our biggest ever signing was £30 million quid, we are light years away from the sort of signings that the likes of Utd can make so it's a bit unfair to judge the clubs in terms of pure finance. We will do what we always do, look for players who have the right attributes and attitude who we think will improve the squad with a particular focus on younger players that we can develop.
I usually agree with your posts, but I really don't want Barkley. I don't think he would improve any area of our first 11 and the price is too high to be a pure back up. For me he doesn't have the defensive awareness to play as a deep midfielder and isn't better than Eriksen, Son, Alli and probably Lamela. Decent player but not what we need to spend on imo.
Personally I agree that our main priority is to keep our current players happy. But I'd like yo see one 'marquee' signing. I'm sure we can afford 40/50 mill if that player also has sell on value. Not sure who it might be, and if there are no established player Poch wants then so be it. But I'd like us to buy one established player to be heavily involved, as a well as some promising young players.
I think a lot depends on Lamela tbh - if he can get back to full fitness then we dont need Barkley but there are a lot of question marks there right now so I think Barkley could be a sensible option - his contract is ending soon and probably would cost about £20-25 million - he is still young and has a lot of talent who I think could still improve a lot under the right coach - he wouldn't play centre midfield for us imo.
As for the marquee signing, well I could see us spending £30 million again if the right player became available but I dont think we would spend more than that - we don't really have a good record of signing 'marquee' players if you mean players coming in on big fees - Soldado, Sissoko, etc., etc. all flopped so just because somebody signs for a lot of cash is no guarantee of success. I think the noises about our interest in Lemar are exciting and he would be exactly the sort of player who for me would be a 'marquee' signing - maybe not in terms of money spent (although he will cost a fair amount) but rather in terms of talent and interest from other clubs. Sessegnon would be another really great and exciting signing - probably the most highly rated young English player (under 18) right now who has been heavily scouted by all the big clubs in the league - if we sign him then that is a statement in itself.
With all due respect, Spurs are hardly skint and could well afford to spend $100mil regardless of new stadium or not. Buying young talents to develop incessantly without a good blend of worldclass established signings will ultimately produce a "feeder club" or "buying club" reputation, as worldclass players like Kane, Alderweireld, Lloris will seek exit to win trophies. That was exactly Wenger's problem after winning the league and replacing winners with potential and mediocrity. I remember back then how Arsenal fans were so elitist about "beautiful football", "youngest first 11 ever", "league lowest average age" etc and pundits were waxing lyrical about Arsenal. I do see Spurs going the same way unless they make a serious statement of intent, else no chance for the title in the foreseeable future.
That is incorrect - we have a billionaire owner but he doesn't invest his cash into the club - he is a silent partner in the sense that he is happy for the club to increase in value without him pumping money into it so he can sell at a massive profit some day. In terms of money to spend on wages and transfer fees we have a fraction of what Utd, City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool can spend. That's just a fact and it won't change for a few years yet. We are a wealthy club in terms of world football because all clubs in the Premiership are now wealthy clubs - but the clubs I mentioned are in a different league to us financially.
That is exactly my point. The owners can well afford it but unwilling to stump up cash. With your squad at its peak, Spurs cannot afford to miss this window of opportunity to win. As such, the signings this summer will show how serious they are about fulfilling the ambitions of the players and Poch. Otherwise, can Levy fault players for leaving when the big clubs come calling? That is also not taking into consideration that most of them can earn hefty wage increment elsewhere.
Joe Lewis is not interested in opening his cheque book, that's just how it is. This will not change unless he decides to sell the club. We are serious about fulfilling the ambitions of the players and the manager but that doesn't necessarily mean we have to spend an absolute fortune on players - as I stated earlier our 'big signings' have generally been disasters. The real jewels in our team didn't cost that much or came from our youth academy, why should we change a system that has been working really well for us?
I don't usually agree with you but I do with this - Spurs have done well last few seasons.
They really can't afford to lose this crop though. I reckon Dele Ali will be interested in a move sooner or later.
I'm certain Dele Alli will move on in the next 3 years and it will probably be for a fee over £100 million. I have no real problem with that as he is likely to become one of the stars of world football and fair play to the lad. Players like Kane who is also destined to be one of the greats I believe will stay at Spurs. Players will come and go over the next few years but the most important thing for us is to keep the manager for as long as possible - everything revolves around him and if we can keep him then I can only see further improvement and hopefully finally silverware in the coming years even if we do lose the odd player from time to time.
What do Lewis and Levy want? I think they would be crazy not to push on and try and win things over the next few years as when will they have a core group of players like this again? They need a little more in midfield for me and one other proper striker but they're much nearer a league winning team than we are and that still seems strange to write (apologies, Tottenham fans).
Poch and the players don't need to be shown the club's direction, as this has already been shown by the 5th, 3rd and then 2nd place league finishes.
As for marquee signings, we're not in a position to compete financially for such players with the several clubs that currently have a lot more spare income. And in any case, you are presumably talking about first XI players, rather than just squad competition, so which first XI position(s) do you think we could improve on by spending £40m (let's say) on a single player? I'm not sure there are any.
I'm still on no
I think i predicted Leicester among others to finish top 4
Tbf they got this core group of players by picking up cheaper or less fancied prospects elsewhere.
I dont think they need to anyway.
Get some width in the form of a winger or full backs and they'll be good to go imo. They're a bit over reliant on Rose and Walker atm (they seem to score enough to get by without Kane)
Looks like the might lose walker maybe but they should be able to deal with that, one replacement isn't the end of the world for them.
Depends how they treat the different competitions too.
Some good cover that will just fit in and do a job will tide them over in most cases but they dont even need that if they take their usual approach to them
Football has changed, especially in the last decade. The only reason why Spurs managed to develop so many players was the low expectations. Fans were patient and given that silverewares were a far fetched dream, there were time to give opportunties to youth and groom them. It is no longer the case now as Spurs is a title contender who will probably
With Eriksen, Dembele, Dier and Wanyama, there isnt enough creativity or width to break top quality teams. Spurs are also highly dependant on Eriksen, which explains your disastrous CL campaign. English top clubs are mostly going through managerial transition so i don't read too much into it. You had an amazing 2 years which is a credit to good club management but i don't see you winning anything with the current playing staffs.
Correct me if i am wrong. Your width comes from Son and Lamela, both whom i don't rate. Wanyama and Dier are too one dimensional. I would take one, and make a creative midfielder as my marquee signing or a wide player. Probably Mahrez for the width, or Pjanic for the central midfielder. I am not saying Spurs are shit. Far from it considering our position. Rather, i think you have a really good base to do something special and i have it ridiculous that Spurs fans like yourself are in line with the club's management, which is simply contented with mixing in the company of big boys rather than creating history by going for the very pinnacle.
Mahrez could actually be a great buy for them alright.
If they can get him to work for the team obviously.
Not the most crazy target either is he?
If they can get him to work for the team obviously.
Not the most crazy target either is he?
Ummmm our width comes from our fullbacks, well this season anyway. Please tell me how much more width Pogba, Mata, Herrerra, Felleni or Carrick provide? Eriksen has constantly been one of the most creative players in Europe and Wanyana and Dier rarely play together in midfield as first choice. Why exactly do you not rate Son?
Our success has come from other teams transition? How long exactly will this transition go on for, I have heard this for the last number of seasons? Next season I expect us still to be competing at the top of the table the main reason being the PL has beckme so much stronger in depth, I can not see there being a club dominate the league for some time.
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What success is that, exactly? You have to win something in order to be successful. Dems da rules
How long will United be in transition? You have to remember that, given the circumstances, this was no ordinary transition. We had just lost a manager who had turned our club from one of midtable mediocrity in to one of the best teams on the planet single handed. Replacing him was impossible, there was no one out there capable of reaching the standards set by their predecessor. It was a poision chalice whoever took over the job, but none of us quite expected Moyes and LVG to fail as dramatically as they did. They practically dismantled the club from within and left us in a desperate situation, one that all associated with the club were entirely unfamiliar with. Moyes was a mistakle, LVG simply failed to meet expectation but finally, in Jose Mourinho, we have a natural born winner who will lead us back to the top. He should have followed Fergie, had that been the case I feel the transition would have ran far smoother. Hindisght. That said, I do believe that under Jose we have made significant strides in getting back to where we belong, indeed had our chance conversion rate equalled that of our chance creation rate we could have won the league, at the very least we would have pushed Chelsea all the way. Again, hindsight.
With 3-4 classy additions to the squad over the summer - a striker, DM, CB and a winger - along with a vastly improved converstion rate, we will be challlenging next season. In fact I think we're going to win it.
You dont rate Son? After the season he has had? Also, our width comes from our full-backs. I also do not think you understand the mentality of a Spurs fan - we are similar to Utd fans of the mid 1980's who had supported a club who had success in the 1960's but had been in decline since then and had to endure mediocrity for years. One good manager comes in, things start to change and improve. Do you think Utd fans at that point felt they automatically should be the best team in the country? I can assure you they probably did not, the younger fans who only started following them in the 1990's may think like that because that is all they have known.
We are happy to see progression, we are happy with the performances and we want this to continue - do we feel we are good enough to win things? Yes we do. Do we automatically assume we WILL win things - no we don't and that is because of the last 40 years. Over time, with success this mentality will change, just as it has for Utd fans.
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