Except the ending.
Television The Sopranos
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Except the ending.
Absolutely nothing wrong with the ending.
The ending was perfect.
Yeah there isn't anything wrong with ending in my opinion.
My god.
Sweet mother
Ending was fine.
By the end of the show I hated Carmella more than I hated Livia.
Carmella getting the shit beaten out of her and then tortured to death would have been the perfect ending for me.
By the end of the show I hated Carmella more than I hated Livia.
Carmella getting the shit beaten out of her and then tortured to death would have been the perfect ending for me.
Nancy Marchand played role of Livia splendidly. Real fantastic character in the show, in hindsight.
Just finished this.
Really liked it. I can't say it's my favourite ever show or the best I've seen, but it was really good nonetheless. For me, the best thing about it was all the tiny little symbolic things that happened which represented what was really happening on a broader scale. Like in S6 when it was getting pretty rough for Soprano and people from Jersey were getting whacked, and a scene began with a tourist bus saying "Welcome to little Italy, this small area used to be 3 streets but is now whittled down to just 1". That's probably one of the more obvious symbolic things that happened but I just thought things like that were really cool.
Some disappointing aspects to the show too though I think. I wasn't really 'routing' for any character, like in Mad Men you're invested in Don, in BB you're invested in Walter (or Jesse), but in this.. they were just all unlikeable. It was kind of just a bunch of dim brutes with short fuses, with some characters like Tony having a bit of intelligence under the surface.
Thought the final season was poor too. It's weird watching the end of such a great show and being less invested than you were when the show was at the halfway stage. I didn't really care what happened to any characters by the end of it. Having said that, I thought the ending was perfect. That's exactly the way I believed it should've ended.
In my opinion, The Wire, Mad Men and Breaking Bad are superior shows, but I still liked this a lot.
Really liked it. I can't say it's my favourite ever show or the best I've seen, but it was really good nonetheless. For me, the best thing about it was all the tiny little symbolic things that happened which represented what was really happening on a broader scale. Like in S6 when it was getting pretty rough for Soprano and people from Jersey were getting whacked, and a scene began with a tourist bus saying "Welcome to little Italy, this small area used to be 3 streets but is now whittled down to just 1". That's probably one of the more obvious symbolic things that happened but I just thought things like that were really cool.
Some disappointing aspects to the show too though I think. I wasn't really 'routing' for any character, like in Mad Men you're invested in Don, in BB you're invested in Walter (or Jesse), but in this.. they were just all unlikeable. It was kind of just a bunch of dim brutes with short fuses, with some characters like Tony having a bit of intelligence under the surface.
Thought the final season was poor too. It's weird watching the end of such a great show and being less invested than you were when the show was at the halfway stage. I didn't really care what happened to any characters by the end of it. Having said that, I thought the ending was perfect. That's exactly the way I believed it should've ended.
In my opinion, The Wire, Mad Men and Breaking Bad are superior shows, but I still liked this a lot.
Interesting analysis. It didn't bother me that the characters were assholes, mob characters are always assholes but I still enjoyed all the mob movies. With the Sopranos I just got tired of all the non-mafia scenes like the psychiatrist, Carmella, all of Tony's goomars etc.
The acting on this show hasn't been matched I don't think:
Tony going on about the fecking bird feeder
At 06:05 Carmela tells him she found the finger nail, Gandolfini's acting right there is fecking brilliant, since it wasn't the maid's finger nail...
Tony going on about the fecking bird feeder
At 06:05 Carmela tells him she found the finger nail, Gandolfini's acting right there is fecking brilliant, since it wasn't the maid's finger nail...
I actually planned on adding that. The petty relationship issues, Meadow's relationships, really really bored me.
Also, although I see the relevance of her role, Janice was incredibly annoying.
Which is exactly the point of the show - it's an intentional slow-burner.
I don't the show's intention was ever to display a character to root for, it was simply portraying the verisimilitude of modern America within the backdrop of a Mob family. Though, that being said, I don't see how Don Draper or Walter White work any better to root for as anti-heroes/maverick characters than Gandolfini's Tony does.
FWIW, I don't think Breaking Bad should really be compared at all, as they're just polar opposites. Plus I personally don't think it's near the level of quality The Sopranos possesses. But hey.
I guess it must depend on the type of character you are but i was really rooting for Tony Soprano. Maybe i could relate to the nagging?
Tbf at the end of the show i root for jonny sax. The man's acting was s joy to watch, i haven't seen someone smokes on screen better than the late phillip seymour hoffman
Johnny Sacks was a bell end. I was sad when Furio left. He was a bad ass when he went into that massage parlour with his baseball bat.
Gandolfini is unmatched as a lead character. The way he displays such control over his business but is so helpless with his family is utterly brilliant.
You guys should read some of Vincent Curatola's tweets. He makes Johnny Sac seem like a mild mannered guy.
Just downloaded this. Seems pretty good by the reviews. I will watch it after I've finished The Wire (not even started that yet)
Not sure how anyone can rate Breaking Bad over this amazing show but each to their own.
I agree. Breaking Bad is too slow imo, sometimes it feels endless and could move faster.
Seems to always & invariably degenerate into a pissing contest over which is better, why not just appreciate the genius of both Breaking Bad & Sopranos. Sopranos is perhaps less original in that it covers a theme that has been done over & over in Hollywood and is part of the fabric of the US. Breaking Bad was a real departure in terms of story and had just as compelling a cast as Sopranos
Johnny Sac is an interesting character within the show. He's one of the few bosses who is faithful to his wife, crosses over to Jersey and ends up neither here nor there between the NY families and the Jersey mafia while still retaining significant clout on the overall picture. Only time he loses his composure is when he beats the crap out of that poor guy in the parking lot yet he ends up being the guy most fecked over by the FBI.
I don't think anyone covered the mafia like they did in Sopranos by neither glorifying them nor making a boogey man out of them but showing the different shades of grey in every day lives in a really dark and masculine world. So its very original and the character development within the series is second to none. I can't think of a single character in breaking bad that had the depth and progression of someone like Chris Moltisanti or even Ralphie Cifaretto in the Sopranos. Jessie comes close but the emotional depth of Sopranos is extremely hard to replicate. Sopranos was peak HBO.
Did Phil tell you guys that he did 20 years in the can?
I don't think I've ever seen that. Its always Sopranos v The Wire. Hardly anyone I know thinks Breaking Bad is better than those two.
Sopranos vs Breaking Bad is like Heat vs The Town. The former is just so much better in everything, the latter is decent and worth the watch, just not as good.
I've just finished it now and I thought it was a great watch. Gandolfini put on one of the best lead acting roles ever imo and even if I didn't expect the show to be so focused on family life I still enjoyed it a lot, very much thanks to the great acting all around.
I did know how the last scene was going to end, but not the context and impact of it. After watching it and then reading up on it to confirm what it really meant I must say that I think it was brilliant.
I couldn't agree more. I always find it amusing when people argue like there's a right and wrong answer to which tv show is the best..
I did know how the last scene was going to end, but not the context and impact of it. After watching it and then reading up on it to confirm what it really meant I must say that I think it was brilliant.
I couldn't agree more. I always find it amusing when people argue like there's a right and wrong answer to which tv show is the best..
Have you ever looked into the wire thread?
Everyone who loves Sopranos should watch Gomorrah. It's like a perfect mix between Sopranos and The Wire.
Sadly yes and I wouldn't use the word amusing in regards to that one, maybe sad or pathetic would be more accurate.
Janice is exactly like my older sister. And Olivia is just like my mother in law. The writers had the psychoanalytic and mental disorder game on lock.
You should watch Sopranos first. The Wire is much lighter and faster so watching Sopranos after it will feel slow. I've watched both a few times and last time this happebed to me.
Just watched the first ep last night. Bought Chianti today and will binge watch few more tonight.
Not sure I'd say the Wire is lighter at all. Both very heavy-going, although also both rewarding.
Loved The show from start to finish. Was actually upset at the end. Read loads of theories about it but it all comes down to the camera work. Genius ending really.
You shouldn't really root for Tony but you can't help it.
You shouldn't really root for Tony but you can't help it.
What are the similarities between The Wire and Gomorrah?